And even if SNY made money, but the Mets themselves lost money, you can’t arbitrarily take money from one company to cover the loses of another. Federal rules and regs and all that.

BE IT ACURATE OR NOT IT’S AT LEAST INDICATIVE & AS IT COVERS ALL 30 THEN I PRESUME IT’S EQUALLY ACCURATE OR INACCURATE MAKING A COMPARASON USAGE SOMEWHAT VALID FOR GUESSING PURPOSES AS WE ALL DO HERE. AS SUCH OF THOSE OWNERS FOR WHICH A VALUE IS REPORTED THE WILPONS’S 500M NET WORTH CERTAINLY ISN’T PAUPERISH BY ANY MEANS(ONE OF THE LOWEST ESTIMATIONS), CERTAINLY NOT SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO NOT BLINK AT THE POSSIBLITY OF A COURTROOM LOSS TO PICARD

FUTHERMORE, I BELIEVE IT’S REDICULOUS FOR ANY OF US TO DEMAND FROM ANY OWNERSHIP THAT THEY GO “ALL IN” WITH THEIR TOTAL WORTH, WHEN WE THE FANBASE ARE BALKING AT INVESTING ANOTHER GAME’S TICKET PRICES WHEN OUR DESIRES ARE LEFT UNFULFILLED. LOOK, MY FRIEND, I PERSONALLY AM IN DANGER OF BEING CARPET BOMBED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION’S TAX VIEWS, YET PESONAL CIRCUMSTANCES & RESPONSIBILITIES LIKE COLLEGE TUITION, HOSPITAL DEBTS DEMAND MORE OF MY VALUE AS TO MAKE SAY ANT PROPOSED INCREASE INMLB PKG PRICES A CONSIDERABLE THOUGHT PROVOKER. NONE OF US HAVE THE RIGHT TO ALLOCATE ANY ONE ELSE’S MONEY; ISN’T THAT WHAT NOVEMBER, ’12 IS ALL ABOUT? LOL

I will go back to the Deli analogy.
Sure you don’t get enough customers to support buying the best cuts of meat.
But if you don’t continue to offer them then you may lose customers.
So instead of cheaping out on one of the few reasons to go to your store you find other ways of generating the customers.

Keep Reyes and Improve something else!
It won’t cost 20 Mil more to do that!
Get another 10 wins and you will get that 20 Mil and more because you would be in the Wildcard race for most of the season.
Get another 5 on top of that and your in the playoffs, Money issues gone! Your 40 Mil in the Black!

And all it really takes is fixing that Pitching staff even if we have the same exact regular position players as we had this year!
But since the kids who can fix the pitching are roughly a year away it makes a lot more sense to spend another 10 Mil on top of Reyes for a good starter and the rest of whats left of the 110Mil target on Bullpen and you can turn this thing around.
WITHOUT rushing kids up too quick which seems to be what everyone thinks has been the problem with us developing pitchers.

Don’t be fooled, my friend. That’s why it’s a JOKE to say the Wilpons are bleeding money.

Mets fans need to wake up and see the SCAM being run on them by our owners.

I DON’T AGREE WITH IT; HOWEVER, I BELIEVE YOUR TIMING WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUCK AS ENVISIONING WRIGHT & BAY INTERSPERSED WITH DAVIS & DUDA WITH A FRIENDLIER LF STUCTURE, CERTAINLY INDICATES THE FUTURE PROMISE IS LIKELY IRRELEVANT TO THE PAST STRUGGLES TO EXACTLY WHAT PURPOSE DO U BELIEVE ANY PAYROLL FLEXIBLITY WILL BE APPLIED? IF U BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY THOUGHTS IN THE STERLING OFFICES THAT THIS IS A TEMPORARY RETREAT FOM HIGH SPENDING, I BELIEVE U R MISTAKEN. IT IS MY CONTENTION THAT THE BUDGET OF 100-110M FOR PAYROLL WILL REMAIN RATHER STEADFASTEVEN WITHE THE ACTUAL @ 90 OR 106. CONSIDERING HOW SO MANY MORE TEAMS SPEND LESS THAN THAT & HOW FEW “SUCCESSFULLY” SPEND MORE. ADVANCING BACK TO THE UPPER TIER IN LIGHT OF PAST FAILURES WOULD BE A VERY DIFFICULT ARGUEMENT TO WIN @ 75 Rockefeller Plaza, 29th Floor, New York, NY 10019 Tel: 212.485.4400 Fax: 212.485.4341 THE STERLING ENTERPRISES HDQTRS OFFICE. SINCE 1982, THE METS’ LEVEL OF PAYROLL INVESTMENT HAS FLUCTUATED CONSIDERABLY AS I NOTE HERE OVER THE PAST 22 YRS SINCE 1990:
YEAR |PAYROLL POSITION | GM | RESULTS | +/- .500
’90 | #2 | CASHEN | 91-71 | –
’91 | #4 | CASHEN | 77-84 | -
’92 | #1 | HARAZIN | 72-90 | -
’93 | #5 | HARAZIN | 59-103 | -
’94 | #17 | McILVANE | 55-58 | -
’95 | #24 | MciLVANE | 69-75 | -
’96 | #21 | McILVANE | 71-91 | -
’97 | #16 | McILVANE/PHILLIPS |88-74 | +
’98 | #9 | CASHEN/PHILLIPS |8-74 | +
’99 | #6 | PHILLIPS | 97-66 | +
’00 | #6 | PHILLIPS | 94-68 | +
’01 | #4 | PHILLIPS | 82-80 | +
’02* | #6 | PHILLIPS | 75-86 | -
’03 | #2 | PHILLIPS | 66-95 | -
’04 | #4 | DUQUETTE | 81-91 | -
’05 | #3 | MINAYA | 83-79 | +
’06 | #5 | MINAYA | 97-65 | +
’07 | #3 | MINAYA | 88-74 | +
’08 | #2 | MINAYA | 89-73 | +
’09 | #2 | MINAYA | 70-92 | -
’10 | #5 | MINAYA | 79-83 | -
’11 | #7 | ALDERSON | 77-85 | -
*STERLING BUYOUT EFFECTIVE. JEFF BECOMES C.Uh.OH.
AS MLB PAYROLL STANDARDS HAVE FLUCTUATED LIKE AN OBAMA STOCK MARKET, THE ACTUAL $$$ IS RELATIVELY IRRELEVANT MAKING SPENDING POSITION VIS A VIS COMPETITORS/PEERS THE MORERELEVANT COMPASRATIVE FOR INSTANCE THE ONE TIME #1 PAYROLL POSITION IN 1992 WAS A TOTAL PAYROLL OF ONLY $ 44,352,002 LEADING TO THE “WORST TEAM MONEY CAN BUY” LABEL
I CERTAINLY HOPE THE ABOVE #s ARE DISTINGUISHABLE ONCE I SUBMIT THIS.

When did this site allow 12 year olds in?

I know you all hate patience, but really, if this team could plan for the long haul, realize Reyes (and ideally CJ Wilson, but i doubt it) is part of the long term solution, the flexibility to add pieces to a solid team if there. That is what free agency should be. Adding the last pieces to a decent group to push it over the edge. Not being the way to build the entire team.

Your desire for the Mets to be the Yankees is apparent. Feel free to defect.

Because he is such an exciting player that he brings people to the park regardless if
it is home or away.

And that is the foundation of any business. Have a product that the people want, and
they will not only pay you for it, but they will also give the owners a profit on top
of it in order to get some part of your product.

And that is the way that the owner gets back their salary money, and cream on top of
it.

Yet that also means that the fans need to got see them play.

And one may not really know if that will happen. Perhaps their last few Mets bad
years, or a further eco downturn could be blowing in the wind could turn them away.

But let us hope for the good parts.

Lets go Mets!!!

What has this team won with Reyes?

1) sign reyes
2) win more games
3) sell more tickets, beers, etc. to increase revenue
4) Increase payroll.

It’s a business. #4 doesn’t happen until #3 kicks in. Teams budget to expected revenue (and the spending follows the inflow).

If some new owner comes in and leverages the hell out of the team to buy it, so they have a ton of debt service, and attendance is where it is now, highly unlikely they are immediately going to spend 10s of millions more than they are bringing in on the team.

Alderson, in his ivy league way is making it sound like he’s trying to convince the public that there is no advantage to signing Reyes and will set the team back in the long run.

We all know that there is, in fact, a scenario that the Mets CAN have financial flexibility AND sign Reyes

What’s the point? The budget needs to be what it was in 2006? Why? Are you shitting me, man? Fans that believe we need to play in that ballpark are completely ignorant. We have our own network, millions of fans in NYC, and we need to BUDGET as if we’re the Marlins? This is preposterous.

If the FUGGIN Wilpons can’t afford 140 million dollar payrolls, they need to get the F out of the business. These men are billionaires for God’s sake. The Mets are not “bleeding” money. Anyone who thinks that is an imbecile.

The low end would be first (now) with the high end to the right

Then replace the words “Payroll Commitment” to “Winning Percentage”

If Alderson would use my scenario, or if he even considered this scenario than he would have to make public statements that sound like they’re pointing the finger at Reyes and telling the fans “well if we sign Jose we’re not gonna be able to make moves”. Hogwash. Good point by 86mets.

Every day I’m more convinced that Reyes is a goner and I think that’s a HUGE mistake. Never mind from a fan revolt perspective or anything like that, but to me it’s not the direction to go in order to make this team a contender faster.

Why are we limiting payroll over the next 3 years?

Baseball payrolls are RISING. They’re NOT shrinking. Explain to me WHY ours is sinking once again?

What a scam the Wilpons are running on us. They certainly learned from the best, that’s for sure. And the media, fans and Met fans are falling for it hook, line and sinker…SMH