I’d rather the virtually guaranteed 200 IP out of the Pelfrey rather than reaching further into AAA to cover another spot in the rotation with whoever we get to replace him and Parnell’s upside is still pretty good.

Selling low and buying high is what this team always does, then when guys come back to career norms we’ve wound up making yet another bad trade.

In the offer you present that guarantees him 110 M over 5 and another 10 if he so chooses over 6 or he can cut his own FA deal with us or someone else at 33 which could easily be 3/30 M by 2017.

As for the running, SB totals aren’t the true measure anyway. I don’t want him grinding down. I don’t even want him picking up 3B w/2out. What I would like is him to pick better spots to steal in. More important ones. More quality, less quantity.

Your point about Tejada being thought of as OK for 162 vs. just 40 games is really the crux of the issue. Having both of them represent the best chance for us going forward. Tejada on his own is just that, OK, and if he goes down………forget about it. The quantity that we now have (finally) at 2B will be of no use at SS. Valdespin is a 2B, Tovar’s probably being drafted in the rule 5 as a back up MI, forget Turner/Havens/Murphy.

ACTUALLY, I THINK THIS IS A VERY FAIR ASSESSMENT; HOWEVER, IF I WERE NYM GM WITH AN INTENTION TO MAKE A LEGIT OFFER, I WOULD BEGIN WITH A 5Y/110M & GET A COMMITMENT TO REVISIT BEFORE THEY SIGN ASNYWHERE ELSE. SHOULD HE GET A 7/150M LEGIT OFFER AS FEARED I’D COUNTER WITH OPTIONS OFF MY ORIGINAL & INCENTIVE CLAUSES THAT COULD COMPETE IF REYES IS SERIOUS ABOUT NY BEING CHOICE #1. FOR INSTANCE A 6th YR PLAYER OPTION @ 22M + A 7th YR MUTUAL @ 22M COULD MEAN AN OVERALL VALUE OF 7/154M; BUT ONLY GUARANTEEING THE FIRST 110M I INTENDED TO ALL ALONG.

AS TO HIS DISABLE LIST, INJURY ISSUE. IT IS AS I’VE STATED OFTEN AN ACCEPTABLE RISK WHENEVER DEALING WITH A POLAYER WITH HIS BASESTEALING SKILLS AS I’VE PROVEN WITH RICKEY, WILLS,ETC. COMPARISONS (BELOW).

TO ME IT’S A FALLATIOUS ARGUEMENT SIMPLY BECAUSE, IF, AS “DON’T RESIGN”-REYES FORCES INTEND, TEJADA @ SS IS YOUR ACCEPTABLE REPLACEMENT, THAN WHY ISN’T IT AN EQUALLY ACCEPTABLE CONSIDERATION TO FIELD TEJADA @ SS DURING THE 24% OF GAMES REYES HISTORICALLY MISSED TO INJURY(PLAYED 1,050G IN 8.5Y(1,377G), 1050/1377=76.25%**) IN HIS CAREER. AS A SUCCESS FORMULA,IMO, 76% OF REYES+24% OF TEJADA IS > THAN 100% TEJADA @ SS. THIS ISN’T AS IF THEY’LL BE A NEED TO ACQUIRE ROLLINS/FURCAL/CONZALES AS B/U ADDING MORE MILLIONS; BUT FOR THE NEXT 4 YRS TEJADA IS VERY AFFORDABLE @ LEAGUE MINIMUMS. SHOULD NEED ARISE THEERE’S A PLETHORA OF MIDDLE INFIELD TYPES ie VALDESPIN,HAVENS,FLORES PRESENTLY DEVELOPING ON THE FARM TO KEEP THE BACXKUP COSTS AT A COMPLETE MINIMUM FOR WHATEVER THE TERM OF CONTRACT DEVELOPS.

FINANCIAL LOSS? REDICULOUS WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF INJURY INSURANCE; SIMILARLY, THE MO VAUGHN CONTRACT WAS INSURED COVERING THE FINANCIAL LOSSES FOR 85%. MEANING, EVEN SHOULD AN ANOMALY YR LIKE ’09′s TOTALLY LOST SEASON, REOCCUR, THE 22M CREATES A MET LOSS OF ONLY $3,300,000)( AN AMOUNT LIKELY RECOVERD BY THE INCREASED REVENUE THE RETROFITTED ADDITIONAL SEATS BRING IN FOR A REYES’ TEAM IN FLUSHING.

** COMPARATIVE GAME PARTICIPATION RATES FOR TOP BASESTEALERS IN MLB
HENDERSON = 76.54%(25YRS)
RAINES = .70.20%(22YRS)
COLEMAN = 65.10%(13YRS)
FURCAL = 76.18(12YRS)
ROLLINS = 83.84%(9YRS)
REYES = 76.25%(8.5YRS)
WILLS = 85.63%(14YRS)
AS EXPECTED, REYES ABSENTEE RATE IS QUITE REPRESENTATIVE OF PLAYERS WITH SUPERIOR BASERUNNING SKILLS TO COMPARE HIM TO ANY GROUP INCLUDING A PREPONDERANCE OF STATION 2 STATION RUNNERS IS LUDICROUSLY UNFAIR.

It also makes sense that a team in transition, still in the rebuild the foundation phase, should have a bit lower payroll. Unlike the Cubs, who are in worse shape with a higher one.

It would seem a bit odd that a team who plays in the biggest market would be cutting Payroll as if they lived in the smallest!

Even Wilpon knows that will fail in the end he has been here long enough to know!

Which leaves Selig trying to make points with the small market rowdies by having his friend make a small market team out of a BIG market franchise!

And it will work too!
He will make the Mets a small market team because the few fans who support Payroll purge do not think much of the guys we will have left and the rest of us will simply give up because we know there is no point in going until 2015 without Reyes and Wright!

FINANCIAL RISK? AS A PREVIOUSLY INJURED CONCERN, I BELIEVE ANY NEW CONTRACT WOULD BE INSURABLE MITIGATING THAT EXCUSE.

TOO MUCH LOST PRODUCTION DUE TO INJURY? IT’S SENSELESS TO SAY THAT 0% OF REYES PRODUCTIVITY IS PREFERRABLE TO 73%(HIS CAREER % OF POTENTIAL GAMES PLAYED IN) AS DIDN’T WE JUST SEE HIM WIN THE BATTING TITLE DESPITE 2 D/L STINTS?
IF HE CAN BE SO PRODUCTIVE IN HIS VERY FIRST YR OF PRIME PRODUCTIVITY; WHAT CAN BE EXPERCTED FROM THE REST OF HIS PRIME(29,30,31,32)?

ANYONE WHO FEARS “THE DISAPPOINTMENT OF HIS UNAVAILABILITY” SHOULD PARTICIPTE IN FAR LESS DEMANDING ENDEAVORS, LIKE TIDDLYWINKS OR BEER PONG JUST AS THERE IS “NO CRYING IN BASEBALL” THERE’S “NO GUARANTEES IN BASEBALL” EITHER.

JOSE REYES BRING THE MOST EXCITEMENT TO NY BASEBALL SINCE RICKEY DONNED PINSTRIPES OR JACKIE DANCED THE BASES IN BROOKLYN. IF LETTING HIM GO IS CONSIDERED RESOLVED BY THE TEJASDA OPTION, THAN WHY ISN’T HIS INJURY ABSENCES RESOLVED THE SAME WAY? LEG INJURIES GO HAND IN HAND WITH FIERY BASERUNNING. TOO FEW NYers REALIZE THAT THE TERM “REYES RUN” HAS BECOME A VIRULENT NL BASEBALL TERM WHEN SPEAKING OF THE METS BY OPPOSITION MEDIA COVERAGE

I FAIL TO SEE ANY LOGIC IN ALLOWING HIS DEPARTURE. IT CERTAINLY CAN’T BE ASSUMED THE $$$ DESIGNATED TO KEEP HIM WILL BE ALLOCATED TO OTHER NEEDS AS THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT CONCEPT UP

A SCENERIO IN WHICH WE TARGET FIELDER TO MOVE DAVIS TO RF & DUDA TO AAA IS STEEPED WITH PERIL AS U WILLINGLY WEAKEN 2 POSITIONS 1B,RF ADDING LITTLE OVER WHAT A CONMFORTABLE DAVIS @ 1B & IMPROVED DUDA IN RF COMBINED BRING SINCE FIELDER CHOOSES TO NEVER CHARGE BUNTS & DAVIS IS TOO CONCRETE FOOTED TO PATROL A VAST “MO ZONED” RF AS THE “ZONE’ IS RUMORED TO BE ONE OF THOSE JEFF ‘SIGNATURE’ FEATURES UNLIKELY LOST IN THE RETROFIT.

AS THE ENTIRE STADIUM WAS DESIGNED TO BENEFIT REYES’ ATTRIBUTES & THERE IS NO INDICATION OF LOSING THE ODD CARROM ANGLES & WIDE ALLEYS TO SUBTRACT THE STADIUMS MOST PRODUCTIVE ASSET(’11 WAS REYES’ VERY FIRST FULL CITI SEASON AS WELL AS HIS FIRST OF HIS PRIME & FIRST WITH HUDGENS) A CONFLUENCE THAT RESULTED IN “MAGICAL”, TRANSFORMATIVE OFFENSIVE PRODUCTION

AS IT APPEARS TEAM MNGT BELIEVES THE “KEEP REYES”, FERVOR HAS WEAKENED. IT SHOULD BE CRITICAL FOR HIS PROPONENTS TO ENSURE THEY KEEP ALDERSON,DiPODESTA, RICCIARDI AS WELL AS ALL THINGS WILPON EXTREMELY FEARFUL OF BACKLASH TO HIS ESCAPE ANYWHERE, LET ALONE AGAINST US 18X A YR

AS I’VE OPINED BEFORE, IT ISN’T DIFFICULT TO CONCEIVE THAT SOLELY ON HIS OWN REYES HAS PROVIDED AT LEAST 20 ADDITIONAL VICTORIES IN EVERY SEASON IN WHICH HE’S PLAYED A MINIMUM OF 100G. BTW, THAT’S > HALLADAY GUARANTEES.

REYES IS A UNIQUE BASEBALL ENTITY & COMPARING HIM IN ANY WAY TO AVERAGE PLAYERS RE. INJURY CONCERNS IS INAPPROPRIATE. THE RAREST ITEM IN BASEBALL IS A CLEAN GAMEWORN REYES UNI. OF WHICH FIELDER COULD FILL A CLOSET WITH MINIMALLY ‘DUSTY” ONES EVERY SEASON.

Wright? Depends on how good and how close the prospects were. Keep in mind that there are no guarantees (and few damn near can’t miss guys). How close is that catcher?

Must have been the GM of the atros

thats 25 Mil a year and more than Reyes is likely to get despite having a MLB track record to rely on!

JUST SAY NO!

While Yu may be very good, I have severe reservations about him. To me, this is Dice-K part 2. Maybe 1 year of above average stats. Maybe 2. Then the league catches up him, as well as the workload, and we’ll see another overpaid & underperforming player from the Pacific Rim. Also, does the posting cost need to be paid upfront? If that is the case, no way the Mets are in on Yu.

Would you (the MMO readers) trade Wright for Pomeranz or the catching prospect straight up? Hopefully the lack of players on the Market (and 3B specifically) will play into upping Wright’s price. I still think he’ll not be moved until the following year. He’ll get a year of a smaller park to boost his numbers, get his option picked up and then moved in the offseason (with a team having a negotiating window for an extension, a la Santana) or moved at the trade deadline.