Oct
19
2011

Hanley, Guillen Lobbying For Reyes?

An interesting nugget from ESPN New York citing Juan C. Rodriguez of the Florida Sun-Sentinel:

It looks like new Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen and shortstop Hanley Ramirez are both lobbying ownership to pursue Jose Reyes:

Asked if he could envision any scenario in which Ramirez played a position other than shortstop in 2012, Guillen didn’t quash the notion. Ramirez indicated last season he would not be opposed to moving if the Marlins signed free agent and fellow Dominican shortstop Jose Reyes, likely a long shot considering Reyes’ injury history and the contract he’ll garner on the open market

“I just got there, and I just want him on the field no matter where,” Guillen said. “Does it have to be at shortstop? Does it have to be somewhere else? I just want this kid to be on the field every day and that’s what I’m looking for. The conversation was great. It’s up to the Marlins what they have in mind, what they want to do. As long as this kid is on the field and gives me four at-bats every day, that’s what I need.”

Now that would be a mind-blower if it actually happened, and yet I can’t completely dismiss it as totally not happening.

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  • I hope not. However, in MLB 11 the show, i traded Reyes FOR Hanley! How ironic, months later, this idea is brought up. I like Ozzie, but don’t take Reyes. Reyes is a Met.

  • Reyes WILL RETIRE a MET!

    • I like your optimism Russell. He might be the 2nd Met player with at least 10 years to do so then.

  • I believe you’ll see on a few of the latest Reyes blogs that I suggested florida as a landing spot for Reyes assuming Hanley can go to 3B or 2B.

    I think it’s a no brainer for the Marlins. New manager, new branding logo, new stadium… now you need a new star.

  • If Reyes goes, I’d at least hope he goes to a decent team in the AL so

    1) The Mets don’t face him
    2)You get a 1st rounder out of him…which wouldn’t happen if he goes to Florida

  • I still don’t buy the Marlins being buyers. When have they EVER been buyers since 1997? They won the World Series in ’97, then held a fire sale. They spent nothing until winning the World Series in 2003 (their most expensive signing that offseason? Ivan Rodriguez – 1 year, $10M), then didn’t pay the extra $2-3M to re-sign their key players. If they signed Reyes to the kind of contract Reyes wants, it would be a larger contract (adjusted for inflation) than every other free agent signed in Marlins’ team history.

    New stadium, new name and new logo means NOTHING with the same old owner and same old fanbase which, as someone who lived in South Florida from 1993-2008, I know a good bit about. The Marlins doing ANYTHING with money (most of the new stadium is payed by the city of Miami/Miami-Dade county) is something that I won’t believe until I’ve seen it and seen it three more times to make sure I wasn’t seeing things the first three times.

    • For those who doubt my claim about Reyes’ contract being worth more than every other contract in Marlins’ history…the Marlins spent $47,753,000 in 1997 (7th-most in MLB) when they “went all-out” to win a title. The Marlins have spent (according to the opening day salaries on Wiki) about $425 million on salaries in their 19-year history. Reyes contract ALONE would be 25% of that.

      NO team who spends a combined $103 million over the last 6 years signs a player to a contract worth MORE than that over the NEXT 6 years.

      • Drew: I’m not saying you’re wrong but the Marlins are contributing $155mil into their brand new stadium. There is money there. Just like how the Nats went big with Werth when nobody expected them to.

        If the Marlins snagged Reyes it’d energize that fan base and open up a brand new ballpark with a bang.

        Again… New Manager. New Branding Logo etc. New Stadium. New Era. New Superstar. Please do not discount a very basic marketing plan as though it means nothing.

        Think about this okay… Loria bought the Marlins for $158mil. They are investing $155mil of their own money into a new ballpark.

        There’s money in Loria’s pockets. The value of the franchise alone was estimated at $277m.

        • First off, I don’t think anything would energize that fanbase to drive to where the new stadium is located unless they do a LeBron thing (the Heat closed off their upper level until acquiring Shaq, and we’ve all seen how no one shows up until the 2nd/3rd quarter of those games even with James/Wade/Bosh). South Florida is a very trendy area, and I don’t mean that in a sense of fashion. I mean it in the sense that, in 2003, everyone loved the Miami Hurricanes. In 2006, the Florida Gators became the hot ticket. In 2010, everyone was a Florida State fan.

          South Florida doesn’t have “fans”, they have people who like to be seen at places that are the new thing. That’s why people who were Orlando Magic “die-hards” in 2009-10 busted out in LeBron and Wade jerseys in 2010-11, and it’s also why the Marlins franchise will fail.

          Don’t get me wrong, they’ll sell tickets at the start; every new club gets visitors when it opens. But, much like trendy nightclubs, they’ll be quickly replaced by the new “thing”, which may even be Florida Panthers hockey (they sold out Opening Night for the first time in ages).

          I don’t doubt that Loria’s pockets are deep, and I know they contributed a nice chunk of change towards the stadium, but it’s still about percentages. The Wilpons shelled out $420M of the $900M that Citi Field cost (46.67%). Loria forked over $155M of the $515M that ballpark cost (30.01%). If spending money wasn’t an issue, they would’ve built the ballpark in North Broward County where the fanbase is, but the city of Sunrise wouldn’t give them the $300M they wanted.

          All I’m saying is, I don’t believe them when they say they’ll spend. As a fan/resident for 19 years, I have a right and a reason to be very skeptical.

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