The only one who you think doesn’t lie is your buddy Jessup and Who!
Then you wave your pom poms and put on your Insult skirt for anyone who replies against them!

You really would do yourself a favor by just keeping quiet and learning at this juncture.

What threw you the english?

Would it be better for you to comprehend if I spoke in your native baby gibberish?

I’m sorry…what?

“You credited a batter with being a TARGET not a HITTER!”

I credited him with not being an out

“Maybe if he was going to drive in the run and hit something to the OF it would go over the fence instead of getting hit by a pitch and set up the DP!”

Or maybe the next hitter gets an extra base hit and now you have 2 runs without sacrificing an out.

“I’m not lying child you are!”

Oh, that is just so mature.

“Lying about what you think is great one minute and then changing it when you get backed into a corner you can’t get out of for saying it!”

I have always maintained hitting a home run is the single best thing a batter can do.

And you don’t speak in absolutes? Stop it already.

And yes, being a swinging machine is bad. I’m glad to see you embracing drawing a walk.

“If a hot hitter is plunked with a runner on 3B and a cold hitter is up next than it could be a BAD thing too because the guy could hit into a DP. It all depends on the personnel involved and where you are in the game. Every knowledgeable baseball fan knows that.”

If you are not confident in the guy at bat, then he shouldn’t be at bat. Otherwise, you’ve got a whole other world of problems.

“Why do you think teams intentionally walk guys??????”

Fear of change

“I guess that makes the saber crowd happy simply because another guy is on base just for the sake of being on base. Forget strategy.”

Have you ever actually tried to find out how well that strategy, you know, works? Or do you just assume its good because it’s all you know?

“that’s the way we’ve always done it” is a stupid reason to continue doing anything.

“If you’re facing a tough Roy Halladay and he’s on his game and it’s late in the game you may just HAVE TO PLAY FOR ONE RUN ”

Oh, hell, no.

When you’ve got a guy like Halladay, you make the most of every opportunity. You don’t just surrender outs and make his job even easier.

“yes, bunt. Now I KNOW that the parrot and who have never ever been in a dugout and have had to actually make decisions that after the outcome of a game but yes managers do do that and bunting when necessary, and hitters making adjustments to hit the ball in the air when it’s called for is necessary.”

That makes 2 of us. You’ve never been involved in a meaningful game, Al Bundy. So don’t act like you have some special sacred knowledge.

” That’s baseball.”

That is losing baseball. And I’ll gladly leave it to you and Jerry Manuel.

You credited a batter with being a TARGET not a HITTER!

Maybe if he was going to drive in the run and hit something to the OF it would go over the fence instead of getting hit by a pitch and set up the DP!

I’m not lying child you are!
Lying about what you think is great one minute and then changing it when you get backed into a corner you can’t get out of for saying it!

That would in fact be a home run. I’ve told you that many many times before, but you keep saying otherwise.

Stop lying.

Ask any baseball player if he has a runner on 3rd with 1 out does he think a Walk is a success!

See what answer you get!

Only OBP loving fools like you think OB OK! You did the greatest thing you can do in baseball!

Baseball players and most Managers do not agree!

If a hot hitter is plunked with a runner on 3B and a cold hitter is up next than it could be a BAD thing too because the guy could hit into a DP. It all depends on the personnel involved and where you are in the game. Every knowledgeable baseball fan knows that.

Why do you think teams intentionally walk guys?????? I guess that makes the saber crowd happy simply because another guy is on base just for the sake of being on base. Forget strategy.

And if the game is tied 2-2 in the bottom of the 8th with a runner on 3B and 1 out and Ike Davis up with, lets say, Angel Pagan up next I’m hoping he can get one in the air that can at least be a sac fly and put the team ahead. If it goes out great, if the outfielder drops it great, and so on.

That’s a case where it could be BAD if the hitter walks with a runner on 3B and it’s late in the game. But you won’t know until the sequence is done. Than the saber guys can second guess it after the fact.

If you’re facing a tough Roy Halladay and he’s on his game and it’s late in the game you may just HAVE TO PLAY FOR ONE RUN and use some strategy and depending on who is at bat you may have to make an adjustment to poke the ball through the right side or you just MAY HAVE TO BUNT!

yes, bunt. Now I KNOW that the parrot and who have never ever been in a dugout and have had to actually make decisions that after the outcome of a game but yes managers do do that and bunting when necessary, and hitters making adjustments to hit the ball in the air when it’s called for is necessary. That’s baseball.

Just totally stupid.

Metsie…you say that if the guy gets hit by a pitch and you have runners at 1st and 3rd, what if the guy hits into a double play. Well, that’s not the only outcome available in that situation. Let me counter it by saying what if the guy at the plate with 1st and 3rd hits a home run? What if he hits a double in the gap that scores 2 runs? What if he singles through the hole and knocks in the run AND you still have 1st and 3rd to knock in more runs.

Playing for one run is playing scared. You don’t play scared…you let your batters take their hacks with runners on base. Runner at 3rd and the batter gets plunked? GOOD! More runners on base for my hitters to knock in.

I’m firmly of the belief that if you play for one, you’ll more than likely end up with none. It happens too often. Bunting is just showing a lack of confidence in your hitters by taking that bat out of their hands.

That was just so lame.

“You don’t see me sniping and making snide remarks to everyone else’s posts”

Yes, you do. When you start a post with “one day when you grow up” or “what you sabers fail to understand about baseball” are snide remarks attempting to degrade the person you are addressing. To deny that is just another one of your lies.

” you never see YOU making any point on your own just giving reviews on everyone else’s thoughts!”

Your reading failures are not my fault nor my problem.

“I have to assume it is because you have no THOUGHTS of your own just OPINIONS on users!”

Feel free to keep proving you don’t read the posts of the people you are addressing.

I’ll learn that the day after you do hows that?

You don’t see me sniping and making snide remarks to everyone else’s posts and you never see YOU making any point on your own just giving reviews on everyone else’s thoughts!

I have to assume it is because you have no THOUGHTS of your own just OPINIONS on users!
And I hope Joe sees that someday and acts appropriatly!

And one day you’ll learn that being an arrogant twit does not hide your ignorance, but rather magnifies it.

“Baseball is about taking advantage of your opportunities not squandering them in favor of OBP!”

Again, you are obsessed with OBP. Be concerned with scoring the most runs you can in your 27 outs.

“The GOAL is for each player to achieve and do something that helps his team.”

Ya, thanks. that was established a long time ago.

“If what he does can HURT his team he did not ACHIEVE!”

Yes, I know. That’s why sac flies are not a good thing.

“If you think it is a HELP to the team then why do Pitchers intentionally walk batters with a runner on third and one out?”

Because they are married to the old ways they were taught. Humans do that. We prefer the comfort of familiarity.

“Why do these BASEBALL PEOPLE you HOPE are SMARTER than you do those things?”

Because they are either too entrenched in certain habits (like IBBs and bunts) or they haven’t fully transitioned everyone else away from the ideas yet. Things like that take time.

“Is it because they ARE smarter than you and understand situational baseball and that by that guy not getting a hit and instead only getting OB allows them to play at DP depth where it is harder to get a hit than if the base was empty and they had to play the IF in?”

They choose to play with the IF in. There is no rule stating you have to take any positional alignment at anytime.

And again,if they do turn a double play, that is on the hitter, not the runners (provided the runners haven’t done something really stupid)

Just out of curiosity, how frequently does that strategy work? How often do they get the DP after the IBB to prevent the run from scoring? I think that is important before continuing this discussion.

“You wouldn’t know that because you don’t follow the game ”

You’re right. I have no interest in baseball what so ever. I just chose to look at the numbers and see how they apply to the game on a drunken dare.

“your too busy calculating a stat and there is no stat kept for IF at DP depth after walking a guy to get the DP and make it harder for the batter to score the run!”

In fact, there have been studies about the success rate of the IBB to draw the double play and it’s been found that it does more harm than good to the defense. You’re better off pitching to each hitter.

If you don’t have faith in your pitcher to get the important outs, then why is he on the mound?

“He has fewer options because what YOU THINK (AND HOPE) was a good act from a batter when in most cases it isn’t!”

What options? He’s up there to get a hit no matter what. In fact, by walking the previous batter, you are providing him with a greater opportunity.

and get what it is people are telling you!

Baseball is about taking advantage of your opportunities not squandering them in favor of OBP!

The GOAL is for each player to achieve and do something that helps his team.
If what he does can HURT his team he did not ACHIEVE!

If you think it is a HELP to the team then why do Pitchers intentionally walk batters with a runner on third and one out?
Why do these BASEBALL PEOPLE you HOPE are SMARTER than you do those things?

Is it because they ARE smarter than you and understand situational baseball and that by that guy not getting a hit and instead only getting OB allows them to play at DP depth where it is harder to get a hit than if the base was empty and they had to play the IF in?

You wouldn’t know that because you don’t follow the game your too busy calculating a stat and there is no stat kept for IF at DP depth after walking a guy to get the DP and make it harder for the batter to score the run!
He has fewer options because what YOU THINK (AND HOPE) was a good act from a batter when in most cases it isn’t!

“It sets up the DP that ends the inning stopping the run from scoring!”

No, the ground ball at the fielder hurts the team. You don’t punish the runner because the hitter didn’t do his job.

Otherwise, by your logic, all base runners hurt their team.

You have a very warped credit system.
Scoring the run is the goal. ONLY YOU value getting on base which is easy to do happens about one third of all PA!

Scoring the run is the goal in baseball and when you learn that you will see how weak your little circle jerking arguments hold up!

It sets up the DP that ends the inning stopping the run from scoring!