Comments on: And Here’s To You, Mr. Alderson

By: Donal

Donal — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 15:12:18 +0000

To be honest, I think Castillo would make a pretty decent coach.

By: alex68

alex68 — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 11:38:36 +0000

joesmith,

by 2006 that team was all minaya, he basically patch the bullpen together, other than tom glavine and traschel everyone else in the Starting rotation was his addition, other than reyes and wright everyone else in the lineup was his addition, he made good trades and put that team together. with that being said alderson started horrible for his first offseason, the excuse was he didn’t have money to work with, NOW he does, he in my opinion started the wrong way by already giving a new contract to byrdak who is just awful, that is not a good way to go into your second offseason as a gm.

By: JoeSmith

JoeSmith — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 11:33:53 +0000

You are the first to call people out for second guessing, now take a guess at what YOU are doing right now? Shocking I know.

You completely ignore the facts, make up crap for your own agenda. So much money was tied up in BAD Contracts from that GM you genuflect to, widely reported how limited the budged was, and you and your goons continue with the AWFUL off season.

Get a clue dude seriously………….

Too bad Moises Alou wasn’t available, because signing over the hill has been has worked in the past.

Funny how you hear that any success is a carry over from Omar, so when the team went to the post season in 06, none of that had anything to do with the previous admin right?

Take your own second guessing and double standards and come back when you actually have something to say that makes sense.

By: Satish Ram

Satish Ram — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 00:58:15 +0000

However the hell that got through the filter, I have no clue – but it damn sure made me laugh.

By: Jorge

Jorge — Wed, 05 Oct 2011 00:35:06 +0000

In all seriousness, did you watch Mets Weekly this week and hear how Collins described Alderson?

By: nathan

nathan — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:27:53 +0000

bayonne, As far as the condition of the roster I have to disagree with ya a bit. The rotation was Pelf, Niese. I don’t think dickey was resigned by then but maybe he was. Who knows what would have happened if Wright and Davis stayed healthy maybe he would have kept Beltran but I thought the bench looked pretty good after it shook out. I was more trying to figure out who specifically he should have went after. I thought the bullpen he built looked alot like the Indians in major league ( who the F are these guys) lol. As far as a mess I was referring to it was the rotation. Starters are so expensive and rarely come through when they are over 30. Lee is an obvious exception but he wasn’t coming here. The guys on the field were all ready their so I don’t see how that is Aldersons fault. Maybe he could have found a better solution for second base but I thought it was at least interesting trying to guess who was going to play second today and they all did a fair job.

By: t agee

t agee — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:20:05 +0000

Resign Mike Jacobs, Gary Matthews Jr., Omir Santos, Mike Hessman, Frank Cattalonotto. Firm up the bullpen with Scott Schowenweiss and Guillermo Mota, use Perez as a situational LOOGY and make Castillo the hitting coach.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:15:52 +0000

It is my contention that if Alderson made a better attempt to win last off season, and who knows maybe he did but just did a horrendous job of evaluation and was outsmarted by other GMs,
we would have had a team more equipped to fight for the playoffs.

Making the playoffs is entirely different story because there are teams that are picked to win and don’t make the playoffs.

I’m just saying a better of more smarter effort should have been made to get the roster he inherited more support. And he was given the nucleus of a team that could fight for contention when he arrived so it wasn’t a complete mess he inherited. The mess you referred to probably applies more to behind the scenes stuff than on the field because the roster to contend was already there, it just needed help.

By: nathan

nathan — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:09:23 +0000

If I am reading you right is it your contention that with the right signings the team from this year could have been in the playoff’s. I did not read the post about who Alderson should have signed so I am in the dark about how this could have been done. Please clear this up for me or at least give me an idea of what you meant. Thank you for your time.

By: t agee

t agee — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:56:34 +0000

The Mets DFA’d 12 guys last year (year 6)

Jacobs, GMJ, Cora, Cattalonotto, Arias, Castillo, Perez, Barajas, Blanco, Carter, Tatis, Hessman. and those were just the hitters.

I wonder who we didn’t sign.

By: TruFan

TruFan — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:42:52 +0000

Better get used to it. People like him at this site hates productive discussion. Anyone who disagree with them will be shot down and jeered at even if the facts support his argument. Screw facts and logical thought, it’s their way or the highway. The worst of their kind resort of trolling and insults once they run out of coherent arguments.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:39:52 +0000

It’s also flat out LYING too.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:39:26 +0000

To the poster named “any”

This is second guessing.

By: t agee

t agee — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:37:46 +0000

There are people who have hated Alderson since about day 3. Why? Cause he doesn’t believe in patching the bald tire and proclaiming the car good to go.

He also likes to take a more careful, longer term view of moves he might make and how they might impact the future.

He didn’t make the big splashy off season signing of a guy that would put us over the top like we have had GM’s do here in the past.

Guys like Mo Vaughn, Roberto Alomar, Vince Coleman, Brett Saberhagen, Billy Wagner, Moises Alou, Scott Schowenweiss, Jeremy Burnitz, Roger Cedeno, Kevin Appier, and Jason Bay.

Those are the types of moves a popular GM makes. The kind that galvanize the Fan Base. Juice up the pre season ticket sales and sell a lot of jerseys in the Team Store.

Alderson is more of a grump. A grinch. He didn’t give away any high draft choices or prospects for guys like that.

By: nathan

nathan — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:24:34 +0000

It surprises me how personal things get around here sometimes. I am after knowledge and a better understanding so I apologize if I have started an argument. I was simply trying to understand why Alderson’s moves were terrible. Every year teams sign guys that don’t stick it’s part of baseball. Emaus hung around a little to long but so be it and Beato ran out of gas or maybe has a nagging injury or something. But I thought Sandy did a fair job and am looking forward to future success. Others see it differently and I am trying to understand why so that maybe I can better evaluate the team for the future.

By: Met Maniac

Met Maniac — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:19:29 +0000

Do you know what hindsight and second guessung is?

Bayonne has been bitching anout Alderson’s offseason since January. If anything he has shown great foresight.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:13:56 +0000

What are you talking about?

I’ve been complaining about his off season since…..that offseason!

What hindsight are you talking about? I’m not second guessing at all so where is the second guessing?

Oh because a lot of those guys aren’t on the team now? That’s an excuse in Alderson’s favor??? Funny I look at it the complete opposite way. How the hell can you sign a bunch of guys during the off season and some of them are off the team before the season is over and you want those guys not to count because they’re not on the team? What the hell kind of thinking is that?

He had ENOUGH to spend to make smarter decisions. I’m not talking about money even though you base EVERYTHING on that. I’m talking about making better decisions with the money you have and made TERRIBLE evaluations with the money he had. Vinny B already listed a bunch of guys that, if Team Alderson was smarter and really WANTED to win they could have gotten.

But in my opinion Alderson made a token gesture to try and help the lineup he inherited because I think he believed they had no chance and he wasn’t gonna spend money to try. And you can’t do that around here because it’s gonna catch up to him.

Where am i second guessing?

By: jerseymet

jerseymet — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:06:16 +0000

Is this the new seventh inning stretch song?

By: any

any — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:06:05 +0000

And you complain about Agee and Hindsight!

and keep in mind, other than DJ (and his salary is relative peanuts), none of those guys are still with the team (well, beato is, and that is a good thing, he can go to the minors), or clogging up a roster spot or major amount of payroll (like bay).

He also had no payroll to spend, which pretty much forced shopping at the discount rack, and those guys are the biggest crapshoot around.

By: jerseymet

jerseymet — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:04:17 +0000

Don’t forget Tim Byrdak