Comments on: Why Is Right Field A Black Hole For The Mets?

By: Petey Pete

Petey Pete — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:44:26 +0000

You don’t have to take anything I say seriously, that’s your right. You can disagree with me and post counter-points to everything I think, that’s your right. It is this exchange of thoughts and ideas, that makes this website so damn great! I could do without the food imagery though.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:33:02 +0000

That’s a lot of baloney, Pete

Aside from what you call type-A free agents what other by-products of Omar’s farm system have been responsible for the Mets success this year? I know Ike Davis was injured but I’d say a future 30+/100 RBI/.280 plus hitter is everybody’s type. What about Turner? Gee? Niese? Murphy (limited of course but still a very good stick and what if he does wind up hitting .300+ as a DH for an AL team?). You want to give up on F-Mart at 22? See me about him in 3 years. Oh, did I forget Ruben Tejada? And there’s more I’m not mentioning but I think you got my point.

And I like how you selectively chose Sean Green and Jeff Conine, 2 little used, little-known Mets to help with your basically FLAT OUT LIE. t agee would be proud.

Outside of a couple of bad contracts that YES Omar was responsible for you’re another one that wouldn’t be posting these misleading and prejudiced stories about Omar Mnaya if his stars didn’t get hurt and we didn’t suffer a couple of collapses which, outside of a couple of plays not going our way, could have been avoided. But unfortunately that didn’t happen.

You may be a good writer for supplying minor league info here, but like t agee your content and the slant from your personal point of view should not be taken seriously by knowledgeable baseball readers here.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:16:41 +0000

PETEY, I’M CURIOUS HOW IT IS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE BERTTER IN THE DRAFT WHEN U EWERE FORBIDDEN TO OFFER A COMPETITIVE(OVER SLOT) BONUS? IT NEVER CESES TO AMAZE ME HOW MANY ARMCHAIR GMs ARE OUT THERE WITH BUCKETS FULL OF ROCKS & ABSOLUTELY NO UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IMPOSSIBLE A POSITION JEFF & PHILLIPS COMBINED TO CREATE WITHOUT FRED BEING COGNIZANT. THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THE FARM HAS PRODUCED SOME MEASURE OF CONTRIBUTION IS COMMENDA\BLE IN LIGHT OF THE ZERO TRUE PROSPECTS INHERITED IN ’05 WHILE EVERY POTENTIAL TRADABLE EXPENDABLE VET HAD ALREADY BEEN DISPATCHED FOR MEDIOCXRITY(SUSPECTS) BECAUSE JEFF REFUSED DUQUETTE FROM ENTICING BETTER RETURNS BY OFFERING SALARY RELIEF CASH ALONG WITH THE BURNITZs,ALOMARs,BENITEZs WHILE I’M CERTAINLY NOT ARGUING OMAR WASBETTER THAN ADEQUATE; I WOULD ARGUE STRONGLY THAT HE WAS HAMSTRUNG CONSIDERABLY BY INEPT OWNERSHIP RESTRICTING LOGICAL PROGRESSIVE IMPROVMENT DECISIONS.
IMO OMAR’S BIGGEST FAILURE WAS THE HIRING OF BERNAZARD, THE WEASEL IN THE WOODPILE SEWING DISCENSION & DISRUPTION THROUGHOUT THE RANKS, UNDERMINING OMAR TO JEFF IN HOPES OF GETTING THE GM CHAIR, UNDERMINING WILLIE TO OMAR IN HOPES HIS FAVORITE HISPANIC, ACTA, GETS WILLIE’S GIG VENGFULLY,IMO, ALERTING ACTA TO FLORES EXPOSURE AS A-BALLERS ARE VERY,VERY RARELY RULE 5′d DUE TO NECESSITY TO KEEP IN MLB ACTIVE ROSTER FOR ENTIRE “FLOUNDERING YR OVER THEIR HEADS, GNATS GETTING ACTA AS MNGR, BERNAZARD GODFATHERING ACTA, GNATS CHOODSING A-BALL FLORES ALL TOO COINCIDENTAL FOR ME!

WITH SEVERE LIOMITATIONS ON HIS DRADFT BONUS CAPABILITIES IT’S A TESTAMENTR TO OMAR’S CREATIVELY REASSIGNING HIS TOP SCOUTS OFF OF THE OBVIOUS UNTOUCHABLES LIKE HARPER & STRRAUSBERG & ALTERING HIS BEAST SCOUTS TO BUSH BEATING FOR UNDISCPOVERED “SIGNABLES” LIKE DUDA,PRIDIE & OTHER POTENTIAL CONTRIBUTORY SALVAGABLE MAJOR LEAGUERS. THERE IS TOO LITTLE CREDIT BEING GIVEN OMAR AS IT’S OVERLOOKED HOW NEARLY EVERY YOUNG CALLUP, BE IT NIESE, GEE, PARNELL, TEJADA, DAVIS HAVE HIS BRAND ON THEIR HAUNCHES. MILLEDGE WAS THE LAST PRE-OMAR CALLUP BUST AS STING WAS THE SOLE ‘RANKED’ PROSPECT ON THE ENTIRE FARM WHEN OMAR WAS HIRED
AS I’VE TOO OFTEN NEEDED TO HIGHLIGHT, TYPICALLY IN MLB WHENEVER A FRANCHISE CHOOSESTO ALTER COURSE FROM BUILDING WITH VETS TO ESTABLISHING AN INTERNAL TALENT PIPELINE OFF THE FARM, THE FRANCHISE CHOOSES TO BOOST THE PROCESS BY SIPHONING OFF NONPRODUCTIVE VETS FOR PKGS OF “PROMISES” aka MiLBers, IN THAT WAY THE LOST PICKS SACRIFICED TO INK A F/A ARE POTENTIALLY RECAPYURED IN THE RESTOCKING PROCESS TO R\ENSURE THE HIFGEST POTENTIAL CALIBER OF PROSPECT ACQUIRED A CASH INDUCEMENT TYPICALLY ACCOMPANIES THE VET & HIS OVERBLOWN SALARY. THE HIGHER THE “PAYROLL RELIEF” TYHE BETTER THE PROSPECT RETURN AS IN 2004 JEFF WILPON ORDERED DUQUETTE TO MERCILESSLY SLASH PAYROLL & ALONG WITH IT VETERAN PRESENCES WHILE PENORIOUSLY & STUBBORNLY REFUSING EVEN A TOKEN RELIEF DOLLAR, THE MEWS’ ROSTER WAS TOTALLY STRIP MINED UNDER JEFF’S ORDERS WITH ZERO ORE ADDED FOR THE FULTURE. THE ONLY VIABLE “PROSPECT” RECEIVED FOR ALL THOSE VETS GOOD,BAD OR INDIDDERENT(ALOMAR,BENITEZ,BURNITZ,VENTURA,ZEILE) WAS ROYCE RING & THAT WAS WITH THE CAVIAT OF ALSO TAKING SORE ARMED RELIEVER ALMONTE, BASICLY THAT FRITTED AWAY ONE OF THE SUREST METHODS OF FARM STOCKING PRACTICED IN MLB LEAVING THE METS IN ’05 WITH A RELATIVELY THREADBARE REMNANTS OF A FOURTH PLACE MLB ROSTER & A GHOSTLY FARM SYSTEM @ ALL LEVELS & YOU’RE COMPLAING ABOUT OMAR’S LACK OF VISION? WHERE SHOULD HE HAVE STARTED OTHER THAN WHERE HE DID TARGETING THE MLB MONEY PRODUCING SECTION WITH PEDRO,BELTRAN & DELGADO AS HIS PRIMARY TARGETS LANDING 2 OF 3; BYEW WILPONS DIDN’T INFORM HIM THAT HIS PLANS OF RESTOCKING LOST EARLY PICKS THROUGH SLOT EXCEEDING BONUS OFFERINGS WAS AGAINST THEIR POLICY OF SUPPORTING SELIG’S SLOT “GUIDELINES”
NO,PETEY, THE PROBLEM ISN’T IN GM OFFICE FROM ’05-’10, IT WAS IN THE 2 FLOORS ABOVE JEFF’S OFFICE THEN FRED’S WHILE SOLS SEEMS TO BE PERMANANTLY UNOCCUPIED.

By: Petey Pete

Petey Pete — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:03:31 +0000

Good piece Dan. What you are describing here is what happens when a team is being run year after year with no master plan. The previous administration was operating under the philosophy of “put a band-aid on a bullet wound.” Omar showed no long-range vision regarding the future needs of the team. He would wait for a problem to appear on the big league roster. Let it fester for a while until it became utterly hopeless, and then slap a scab on there like an over-the-hill Sean Green, or Jeff Conine. He did the same thing with the bullpen. At the same time, while he was supposed to be some sort of scouting “genius”, he failed to adequately stock the farm system with shortstops, catchers, outfielders, and pitchers. The only type A prospects left over from Omar’s tenure are Matt Harvey, Jenry Mejia and Jeurys Familia. Then there are a few high B’s like Captain Kirk and Wilmer Flores, and then, good luck.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:03:17 +0000

SARGE, DON’T GET ME WRONG, OUTSIDE OF SPECIFIC “SKILLS” POSITIONS LIKE PITCHER,CATCHER,SS I DON’T BELIEVE U DRAFT FOR A, SAY CORNER OUTFIELDER AS MORE THAN LIKELY IF HE’S NOT OUT OF A SUBSTABNTIAL COLLEGE PROGRAM, YOU’RE ABOUT 3,4 YRS FROM GETTING HIM BY WHICH TIME, WHO KNOWS WHICH CORNER U NEED. IT’S NOT ABOUT DRAFTING TO NON SKILLS POSITIONS, THERE U WANT TO DRAFT GENERALLY BEST AVAILABLE, TO TOP HITTERS,GENERAL EXCELLENT, CONFIDENT FIELDERS, REACTION TIMES, GLOVE WORK, FOOTSPEED, ARE YOUR TRIGGERS, NOT FOR INSTANCE A RFer OR 2B DESPITE OUR NEEDS TODAY. 3 YRS FROM NOW WHO KNOWS WHAT THE SCRAWNEY KID U JUST SIGNED FOR SS BECOMES, HE MAY BE BEST SERVED BEING GIVEN SHIN-GUARDFS & CHEST PROTECTOR IN ‘AA’; BECAUSSE HE’S NOW BUILT LIKE A FIRE HYDRANT, BTW INDICATORS DERIVED FROM YEARS OF STUDY ARE EXACTLY WHAT IDICATOR MEANS, AN EDUCATED GUESS AS TO DIRECTION A PLAYER’S PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT MIGHT FOLLOW, WHO KNOWS WHEN THAT LONG GORGOTTEN ” POWERFUL SQUATR BODY” OF HIS MATERNAL GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDFATHER MAY RESURFACE, U LNOW THAT MAYAN WARRIOR COTTEZ KILLDED. FLEXIBILITY & DRAFTS FOCUSED ON PITCHING & BASEBALL ATHLETES IS AN EXCELLENT FORMULA TO FOLLOW. PIDGEON HOLES ARE THE DEATH OF FLEXIBILITY & FILLING UNANTICIPATED HOLES COMPETITIVELY DEMANDS FLEXIBLE ATHLETES, JUST LOOK AT PHL & ATL
ON THE SURFACE A BAY, DUDA SWITCH IS WORTH EXPLORING; HOWEVER BAY IS THE VETERAN & CONCERNS HE MAY HAVE SGHOULD BE DULY CONSIDERED (CAMERON TO RF OR FLOYD & PIAZZA TO 1B ARE EXCELLENT BAD IDEA EXAMPLES) MOST FANS AS WELL AS TOUTS FORGET MIKE PIAZZA WAS INITIALLY DRAFTED WITH THE IDEA OF 1B BY LAD, FAILING THETRE THEY TOSSED GIM “THE TOOLS”, SO WHO’S IDEA WAS IT THAT A GREAT PLAYER WHO HAD 2 LEFT FEET, POOR FOOT COORDINATION WHO FAILED @ 1B IN HIS 20s WOULD SUDDENLY BE A FIT THEER IN HIS LATE 30s(NO ONE LOOKED DEEPER THAN HIS EGO WHEN HE WAS AFRAID TO BE EMBARASSED OUT THERE, HE KNEW, THEY SHOULD HAVE, IF I KNEW!
U HAVE TO REMEMBER THESE PLAYER ALL HAVE HISTORIES LONG BEFORE THEY EVER APPEARED ON OUR RADAR & ANY HESITANCIES THEY HAVE ABOUT A SEEMINGLUY OBVIOUS “NO–BRAINER” SWITCH SHOULD BE GIVEN SIGNIFICANT WEIGHT. SO, WHY ARE WE WAITING UNTIL AFTER THIS SEASON TO REALLY BEGIN DUDA’S RF TRAINING IN EARNEST. DIDN’T TUFFEL SEE HIS OFFENSIVE STATS & KNOW BELTRAN WAS DEALT?WHO’S WATCHING THE STORE? ARE WE REALLY PAYING THESE MiLB MNGRS TO WIN INSIGNIFICANT GAMES & WRITER REPORTS TO BE FILED IN FLUSHING?
MU BIGGEST CONCERN IS WHAT I PERCEIVE AS THE NYM FRANCHISE’S BIGGEST FAULURE ie EFFECTIVE INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS. STL ALWAYS SEEMS TO HAVE EVERYONE FROM THE USHERS IN ROOKIE BALL TO LaRUSSA ALL PULLING THEIR OARS TO THE SAME BEAT. NOT SO, IN FLUSHING I BELIEVE IN A MODEL FRANCHISE, THE MNGT & COACHES IN AA & AAA ARE TRACKING EVERY GAME & ISSUE ON THE MLB SCHEDULE SINCE BELTRAN WAS DEALT, EVERY AA OR HIGHER OUTFIELDER SHOULD HAVE LOGGED TIME IN RF, JUST AS EVERY RELIEVER SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN SVO IN BINGO & BUFFALO AFTER K-ROD DEPARTED. UNFORTUNATELY DESPITE WHAT THEY SAY, I’M CONCERNED BACKMAN &TUFFEL ARE TOO CONCERNED WITH THEIR RECORDS & NOT THE RECORD IN FLUSHING WHICH ULTIMATELY PAYS THEIR FREIGHT.

By: sarge

sarge — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:05:43 +0000

Good post 62, sometimes you wonder who is minding the store when you don’t draft for position instead of just finding someone and telling them they’re changing positions.

Never saw it as bad as you posted till now, wow!

I say Duda, if he gets better, plays RF in winter league plus find an off season coach to help him with routes and playing balls hit at him and over his head.

Why can’t Duda play LF and Bay move to RF?
Bay has more speed and has shown to be a better OF than previously thought.
Bay might not have a Strawberry arm but he plays smart in OF and I think this would help keep Duda from becoming a mental case over the largese of Citi and the Mo Zone.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:16:42 +0000

PERSONALLY, I AGREE WITH YOUR CONCLUSION ON “DECISION MAKERS” OR BETTER YET, “INDECISION MAKERS” AS I JUST PEAKED @ THE “OFFICAL” ROSTERS FOR BUFFALO & BINGO TO FIND BUFFALO LISTS 2 RFers(F-MART, BUBBA BELL), BINGO 2 CFers, 3 LFers, 0 RFers

I UNDERSTAND THE DECISIONS TO VET MIDDLE INFIELDERS AS SS & OUTFIELD CANDIDATES AS CFers UNDER THE AGE OLD PREMISE THAT A GOOD SS CAN ACCOMODATE EITHER 2B OR SS & A GOOD CFer CAN PLAY ANYWHERE IN THE OUTFIELD; HOWEVER, AFTER U INK SOLUTOPNS TO CF(BELTRAN IN ’05), LF(BAY IN ’09) AS PRESUMED LONGTERM SOLUTIONS ISN’T IT APPARENT, AS THEY SAY IN SQUARE DANCING ALLEMANDE RIGHT!? HOW IS IT DESPITE BAY BEING CEMENTED IN LF FOR 4 YRS, DUDA WAS NOT EXPOSED TO RF; BUT KEPT FOCUSED ON LF? WITH F-MART’S PENCHANT FOR FRAGILITY HIS BEING ENVISIOED AS A RF MLB SOLUTION/OPTION HAS ALL THE FORESIGHT OF A FORTUNE COOKIE.
HAS ANYONE EVER SHARED THE OVERALL MLB PLAN WITH THE MiLB LEADERSHIP?

ON A SEPEaRATE TOPIC, DESPITE MY ENJOYING TC’s MNGT STYLE, AM I THE ONLY ONE, TIRED OF HEARING HIM REMIND US “I WASN’T HERE LAST YR, I DIDN’T SEE WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR”, I’M SORRY; BUT FROM THE TIME HE WAS GIRED TO DAY 1 OF ST, TC SHOULD HAVE LIVED IN THE VIDEO ROOM RELIVING EASCH OF THE PREVIOS 162G, ONE BY ONE. JUST BECAUSE ALDERSON WAS IN PR KICKING OVER “JUICE” STANDS & TC EWAS FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING FUTURE QUESTIONS, HAVING NEITHER EXPERIENCED 2010, JERRY STUMBLES, IS NO REASON FOR US FANS TO HAVE TO RELIVE THEM ala PELFREY @ #1, NO RFer, PARNELL @ CLOSER. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE TEMPTATION TO BE MORE FOCUSED UPON THE FUTURE RAHER THN THE PAST FAILURES U WERE HIRED TO CHANGE; I MUST SIMPLY ASK, IF THEY ARE CLUELESS AS TO THE PAST MISTAKES, WHAT IS IT THEY THINK THEY WERE FIXING?