Why Do So Many Mets Fans Hate David Wright?

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• NJstuckinTX September 15, 2011 at 11:55 am

  I think the main ire is with those that are on one side of the fence vs. the other. It’s almost that the fans (aka this site’s readers) either hate the fact that there are those that makes excuses for or against right. It’s practically a civil war, with the new Los Mets Blues on one side and the Road Grays on the other.

  Anyway, as you mentioned, Wright is the face o’ the franchise. So be it the goat or the glory, that’s what comes with the title.

  Where’s Rodney King when you need him?
• alex68 September 15, 2011 at 12:18 pm

  how fitting, a player who is known for being a choke artist is the face of a franchise that is known for futility and for choking away a playoffs spot 2 years straight in last 5 years..
  • NJstuckinTX September 15, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Tell us how you really feel.
    • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 1:02 pm

      I Don’t like his legion of fans that portrait him as a godsend, as a guy who do no wrong, but i don’t hate him or any other met player, although i unlike some fans am consitant, the same way i bash wright i bashed bay, castillo, perez etc.. some fans in here have certain affection for pretty face “franchise players”, or the ameri-can players.. see parnell and mota, bay and castillo etc.. i may be rough on wright, but i have been rough on everyone not just him.
  • JoeSmith September 15, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    SHUT UP ($1 to Bayonne)

    You keep saying the same lies every day.

    Love how ONE man is responsible for chocking the playoff spots away – another jerk that didn’t pay attention, bullpen blowing games at a record level, but Wright left Murphy on 3rd.

    Don’t show me stats, I know what I saw (aka screw the facts, I live by my lies)

    What did YOUR golden boy Reyes do those two years?
    What did the starting pitching outside of Santana do
    What did the bullpen do?

    RIGHT – DW choked the WHOLE season away because he left Murphy on 3rd
    • JoeD 1966 September 19, 2011 at 3:01 pm

      Reyes isn’t or wasn’t any more clutch than Wright.To me they’re both in the same boat.The 2009 Phillies bullpen was equally as bad as the 2008 Mets bullpen but their star players Utley,Howard,Rollins and even little Dicktorino got big hits and bailed their pen out.In 2008 the Pen blew a lot of leads for us,yes you’re right Joe Smith but our offense which had many chances to bail out the pen came up short.Only Beltran did his part down the stretch.Wright gets more blame only because his at bats were God awful.Swinging at pitches a foot outside in hitters counts.I don’t know why Reyes gets a pass but he wasn’t any better,in fact he was even worse than Wright in the 2007 collapse.I guess Reyes gets a pass because he played at a level earlier in the year that Met fans have never seen before.I honestly hope they take the two draft picks and rid ourselves of anything left from the Omar the choke maker’s team.After the last 3 years,what more do we need to see.Rebuild this damn team already.
  • OmarFan September 15, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    OMG I couldn’t put it better. If anyone represents “collapse” it’s David Wright. In that respect, he is 100% the Face of the Franchise.
• Donal September 15, 2011 at 12:26 pm

  I agree. A lot of it is perception and frustration with the organization itself. Since he’s the “Face of the Franchise”, he’s going to take the brunt of the blame for what happened on the field.

  “I think captains on baseball teams are unnecessary and overrated, but for whatever reason, there seems to be a good percentage of fans who want Wright to be named captain.”

  Bingo. Even Terry Collins has come out against the concept.

  “The mere thought of that pisses many other Mets fans off because they compare him to past Mets captains like Gary Carter, Keith Hernandez, John Franco and Mike Piazza who have all led the Mets to a World Series, something Wright has yet to do.”

  And this baffles me as well. Point out what Hernandez did in the 9th inning of Game 6 in 1986, and you’ll hear a year’s worth of excuses. And why do so many people seem to forget Franco flipping off the booing crowd at Shea? How is that “captainy”?

  Over all, I think you’ve nailed it. Wright gets the heat because he’s the face and because people just seem to remember when he failed. If the Mets turn it around and he’s here while the succeed, we’ll all forget this silly “unlcutch” talk as we see #5 get retired on David Wright Day.

  Although, I think you’ll have more than one eprson scoff at you for referencing the leverage scale.
  • OmarFan September 15, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Alas, we’ve gone from Wright being one of the “Greatest Mets Ever” to a guy who perhaps one day will have a David Wright Day…SMH.

    One thing we will NEVER hear is “David Wright is a Prime Time Player!”
    • Donal September 15, 2011 at 4:59 pm

      What? Do you know what it means when a player’s number gets retired?
• srt September 15, 2011 at 12:35 pm

  I don’t believe that many fans do. I believe realistic and knowledgeable fans know just what DWright is and is not.

  I think it’s the same small contingent of fans whose every debate starts and ends with Wright that makes it seems like the numbers are much larger.
  • Donal September 15, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    A vocal minority if you will
    • Joe D September 15, 2011 at 1:04 pm

      Yes it’s definitely a minority and not a large minority at that, but even so they are loud and it’s very prevalent here and elsewhere.
    • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 1:10 pm

      well, he must have a very thin skin, because is OBVIOUSLY he’s notice a minority of fans have turned against him… unlike a LOT OF YOU’s i actually go to the games, when i do i applaud for everyone while i am there, but i’ve be lying if i tell you i haven’t boo a met player after a strikeout or getting rocked like an oliver perez game i went to in 2009.. hate is a strong word to use, but if you ask me if i like him i’d say no, he’s a excuse maker and not who we thought he was, or the guy who he led us to believe he was
      • Joe D September 15, 2011 at 1:46 pm

        I disagree with your line:

        “He’s a excuse maker and not who we thought he was, or the guy who he led us to believe he was.”

        You have every right to your opinion and liking or not liking a player, but as it pertains to your quote…

        1. I wouldn’t call Wright an excuse maker. From my own experience, and also from that of other MMO bloggers who covered the games and many a Mets loss, David Wright is the only player who consistently stands at his locker after a bad game and faces the music. He doesn’t make any excuses and oftentimes blames himself and says he just didn’t get the job done.

        2. I don’t believe David Wright ever led anyone to believe anything about him. He never stood on a pedestal and said “I am Iron Man” that I know of. As I mentioned in my post, the Mets and others in the media created the expectations for Wright – not Wright himself.

        It was a flawed voting system that awarded Wright those two Gold Gloves and Wright himself felt there were others more deserving and didnt want to discuss the awards those years. You cant blame Wright for that.

        Look, I understand the gripes and all the hysterics, but in six full seasons, Wright got MVP votes five times, and was in the the top ten three times. For somebody who has been that productive, he gets way too much flack.

        As I said in the post, there are 29 other teams that would gladly take Wright on there rosters. Sometimes you don’t know how good a player was until he’s gone.
        • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 2:12 pm

          Look, I understand the gripes and all the hysterics, but in six full seasons, Wright got MVP votes five times, and was in the the top ten three times. For somebody who has been that productive, he gets way too much flack”
          so did beltran, and basically he was traded out of town!!!!
          As I said in the post, there are 29 other teams that would gladly take Wright on there rosters. Sometimes you don’t know how good a player was until he’s gone”
          Carlos Beltran?? anyone? anyone? hell, even krod, as the state of our bullpen became pathetic after he was traded..
          He doesn’t make any excuses and oftentimes blames himself and says he just didn’t get the job done.”
          sept 25th 2008, he made a great 3-2 pitch.. on a ball 6 feet off the plate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk5acXx93kQ

          joe d, if you like him or anyone likes him that’s fine, but the man is human, and more often than not, or lately,he’s been a choke artist. i mean, you did watch the sept 11th game against the.. wouldn’t you know it, the CUBS
          • Joe D September 15, 2011 at 2:21 pm

            Alex, you are preaching to the choir on Carlos Beltran. After Kelly, I might be his biggest fan. IN FACT, I’m minutes away from posting about Beltran right now. And let’s not forget about my 15 post tribute on Beltran Appreciation Week which I’ve never done for any other player before or since. So get ready for my new Carlos Beltran post. :0
            • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 2:31 pm

              fair enough… by the way, 300th home run yesterday on a BOMBed to the mccovey co!
        • OmarFan September 15, 2011 at 4:12 pm

          Yeah, the question is would teams give up one of their best players for David Wright? You know the answer to that one.
  • JoeSmith September 15, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    I go to quite a few games a year. When announced still gets a loud ovation.

    When he screws up – he gets the jeers (and yes I am as loud or louder then most) but I think the hatred is really limited to the negative crowd with a keyboard.
    • any September 15, 2011 at 12:55 pm

      I believe they prefer to be called “the core”.
      • Donal September 15, 2011 at 1:31 pm

        you mean “he prefers to be called the core”
        • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 1:35 pm

          thank you donal.. please also let her know how the CORE came along and what it means…
          • Donal September 15, 2011 at 1:37 pm

            The core came along when alex came under the delusion that his opinions will have more weight if he portrays them to represent the opinion of an imaginary group consisting of people who were banned from Metsblog a few years ago.
            • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 1:44 pm

              LMAO… banned?? we were banned after we starting david wright unclutch, then we were there for a while longer, then i found this site and been here ever since, others that you never heard of went elsewhere.. now is full of ppl who basically buttkiss cerrone and his other peasants.. is amazing how you were told this and yet don’t wanna take the high road, that is why ppl don’t like you donal and call you parrot, loser, call you names and consider you a #2
              • Donal September 15, 2011 at 2:11 pm

                I said you and others were banned. Is that not true?
                • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 2:13 pm

                  NO. most ppl left after basically being told to agree with the almighty one or else they be banned.. then if banned had to wait like 2 weeks to be reinstated and/or wait to be part of metsblog..
                  • Donal September 15, 2011 at 2:25 pm

                    So, you weren’t banned?

                    and I know the truth. When someone like MNJ tells me it was because Cerrone was clamping down on differing opinions, I buy it.

                    When you say it, I want proof.
                  • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 2:35 pm

                    i could care less whether you believe me or not, i know my truth. you have less credibility than anyone here, yet want proof? who in the blue hell are you for me to disturb MNJ in asking him to do me a favor and prove you wrong.? please, believe what you will while i go and take a you..
              • Donal September 15, 2011 at 2:27 pm

                And the people here who call me names do so because they have the mental faculties of a 4 year old.
                • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 2:33 pm

                  yet you’re at least 10 years YOUNGER than all of us, yet claim to know more than everyone, also claim to be a fan forever and don’t go to games, prob don’t buy merchandise of the team, hell, prob don’t even donate here in MMO..
                  • Donal September 15, 2011 at 2:41 pm

                    “yet you’re at least 10 years YOUNGER than all of us”

                    How would you know? I’ve never divulged my age, although I think 1 or 2 people around here might know it.

                    Besides, what does age have to do with anything? The only currencies that matter in these discussions are the facts and how you present them.

                    “yet claim to know more than everyone”

                    No, I have never said such a thing. I do a better job of backing up my points than you and some others, but I’ll never just claim to be smarter than anyone else. In fact, that’s part of my problem with you and the other Brown Shirts. You just claim you know better than whoever disagrees with you.

                    “also claim to be a fan forever and don’t go to games, prob don’t buy merchandise of the team”

                    I claimed I don’t go to games? I claimed I don’t buy merchandise?

                    Do you have anything to back up anything you’ve said here?

                    “hell, prob don’t even donate here in MMO”

                    You’re just attacking me.

                    You’re going after me with things that are irrelevant and none of your business.

                    How about you argue the points? Just admit you’re wrong and move on.
• Joe D September 15, 2011 at 12:55 pm

  Thanks for your comments everyone. I accidentally posted something on Reyes a few minutes ago that I intended to save as a draft. It was far from complete, but I’ll have it up tomorrow. I just wanted to mention it because it already had a couple of comments – you guys and gals are fast it was only live for 6 minutes!
  • Bayonne Mets Fan September 15, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    i read the whole thing and it brings up some fantastic points. Can’t wait to see the finished product
• alex68 September 15, 2011 at 1:03 pm

  always nice to see some ppl here actually pay mind to “THE CORE”..
  • NJstuckinTX September 15, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    I always thought The Core meant lunatic fringe. Go figure…
    • will September 15, 2011 at 1:35 pm

      you mean people that dont wear orange and blue glasses, who call a spade a spade, who want somebody to produce before being called a hero, are tired of the mets being the laughing stock and want real changes, who realize moneyball will never work in NY, who call a bum a bum, who want wilpon to sell, and most importantly are not named jessep.
      • NJstuckinTX September 15, 2011 at 1:45 pm

        And sometimes, a spade is a shovel.

        As for real changes, sometimes instant change is not feasible, nor practical. We all want to see a winner. I also want to see sustained excellence, and wreckless spending for spending’s sake does not usually equate to an automatic winner. I admire the passion that the Apple Core have, but sometimes said passion has you firmly entrenched in the fringe.
        • will September 15, 2011 at 1:53 pm

          nobody said anything about wreckless spending, just how about instead of bidding againist ourselves for perez we get in on the likes of lee, cc, holiday to name a few. the “fringe” as u call us is bigger than you know. citi field will be ghost town usa next yr because the team will be nothing but a AAA roster, with Dom Perignon prices.
          • NJstuckinTX September 15, 2011 at 1:59 pm

            The fringe, to clarify, works on both sides of the spectrum. So those who are content to roll with Pelf another year, thinking he’ll finally turn it around, or Thole will be better then a sieve next year, Bay will turn it around for sure or Wright can walk on water (when it isn’t frozen!) are just as fringe as those who think the Wilpons will sell, all the big name guys should be had or bid on by the Mets and Wright is worthless because he can’t live up to numbers that Babe Ruth couldn’t maintain…
          • metsguppy September 15, 2011 at 7:41 pm

            I understand the frustration but did anyone actually expect the Mets to be good this year? From the very beginning of the season the Mets rotation was just bad. They really have been bad since Santana got a big contract and then just fell apart. With the “amazing” rotation the Mets have I never really expected them to be any better than they are. The Mets have one starter that is okay, Dickey and he is basically a number 3 or 4 somewhere else. The rest of the rotation looks like middle relievers on other clubs. The relievers just look like garbage.
    • Donal September 15, 2011 at 1:38 pm

      I always thought it was a crappy scifi movie that sat on a shelf until Hilary Swank won an Oscar.
  • metsguppy September 15, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    This whole CORE thing is just a bunch of people who are no more informed than anyone else but can spend all day pushing their view as if it was fact.
• Metstheory22 September 15, 2011 at 1:43 pm

  Frustrated might be a better word than “hate”. The way our seasons have been lately, fans take it out on usually the better players.
  Every year, we fans hope we have turned the corner. Just to have AMAZING injuries like the ones that seem to hit this team yearly.
  Last year our hope for this year was Ike Davis, Neise and a bettr Pelfrey. Next year maybe Turner, Duda, Gee and Beato improve over this year or they all get hurt and here we go again.(hopefully not)
• stu September 15, 2011 at 1:47 pm

  Hate is a storng word. NY has a way of overhyping players. Maybe David Wright is just not the player he was made out to be. A few good seasons dont make a career. But a few bad seasons could break a career. If you want to use the word HATE. I HATE Jason Bay. But I am “dissapointed” in DAVID WRIGHT. He has $$ millions of reasons to play up to his potential. Jason Bay already cashed in on his Free Agency.
  • Joe D September 15, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    BTW, I completely agree with you. I used the word “hate”, because that was the question as it was posed to me and what compelled me to address this in the first place. Thanks for the comment.
• Annie Savoy September 15, 2011 at 1:59 pm

  David Wright became the ‘Captain’ of the Mets because of his position – young, smart and very capable of speaking as a team leader since he is the eldest of four brothers and the son of a police captain and a school principal.

  Not only that, but he looks good, speaks well and understands the facets of the game both in the clubhouse and in the NY area. In fact, he often does appearances etc. with Derek Jeter since both are perfect to represent their teams.

  Think about it, David being the spokesperson for the Mets is a winner, and appearing with Derek is a plus.

  Why knock a good thing?
  • will September 15, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    first off dw is no captain, unless you mean of the K club, has zero rings, could not get a big hit if his life depended on it and why u compare him to a guy who is a captain, has 5 rings, and has big hit after big hit, post season after post season, is just behyond me.
    • Donal September 15, 2011 at 2:14 pm

      “has zero rings”

      Ya, you need to learn a few things. Like anything about baseball.

      Under your definition, Ted Williams was a lousy player.
      • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 2:16 pm

        wow.. ted williams and david wright??
        • Donal September 15, 2011 at 2:42 pm

          Hey, Ted Williams is a ringless loser.
      • will September 15, 2011 at 2:18 pm

        no just a piece of the comparsion, and ted williams did not k in every big spot.
        • Donal September 15, 2011 at 2:42 pm

          But HAZN GOT NO RINGZZZZZ
  • alex68 September 15, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    he looks good, speaks well and understands the facets of the game both in the clubhouse and in the NY area. In fact, he often does appearances etc. with Derek Jeter since both are perfect to represent their teams.”

    wow annie, all i will say is derek jeter has 5 WS rngs, an WS MVP trophy, and btw, prob one of the most clutch performers in the playoffs of ALL TIME
    • Donal September 15, 2011 at 2:43 pm

      I guess no one ever told you this, but baseball teams generally have 25 man rosters. And David Wright does not pitch.
  • OmarFan September 15, 2011 at 4:15 pm

    It’s not knocking a good thing. It’s knocking the sale job by the Met front office and SNY. He’s treated as a star. He’s treated as if he is the team’s best player. If he’s the team’s best player, there’s a good reason why our team isn’t a playoff team.
• alex68 September 15, 2011 at 2:08 pm

  again, i do not hate david, but is amazing how as soon as someone say something bad about him is like a riot, he has some many defenders and had gotten so many passes by the media and fans throughout the years it wasn’t even funny, yes agree about everything you said about that game, main reason for me to not want perez on the team anymore was that particular game where with the mets leading 5-1 he allwed the cubs to tie the game by the 4th inning, but again, the guy had a GOLDEN OPP, not only was murphy at 3rd with NO OUTS, but he had a 3-0 COUNT!!!! then struck out on a pitch 6 FEET OFF THE PLATE, now it happens, noone is perfect, we lost the game and it was frustrated to watch, but then, My dislike for him started after he said on the post game conference :”HE MADE A GREAT 3-2 PITCH” i was like WHAT?!??!???
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk5acXx93kQ

  HOW THE HELL HE MADE A GREAT 3-2 to srike him out?? how can you respect a man like that when he’s looking for excuses?? after that day, i lost ALL RESPECT FOR HIM and haven’t trust him ever since in a key spot, i’ve been saying since 2008 and funny, i’ve been RIGHT all along
• Mets2012 September 15, 2011 at 2:26 pm

  I hate his squeaky voice and pink shirts he wears.
• OmarFan September 15, 2011 at 4:18 pm

  I don’t hate Wright. I simply don’t trust him. When the game is on the line, he shouldn’t be the man up there deciding the game. When Met fans had superior talent around, the superior talent took a backseat to this fraud. Wright isn’t the star we sold. We were sold junk bonds.

  What irks me is how fans ignore his inadequacies by continuously defend him as if he’s the second coming.
• Metfan September 15, 2011 at 4:23 pm

  I finally gave up on David Wright after he went 0-5 last Sunday night, and posted to trade him. I am in the trade him camp now. Most of the time he looks clueless at the plate and just flails away. It is time for him to move on and rejuvenate his career away from citi field. Nothing to do with hate or like, just my feelings on his baseball abilities. He’ll do better away from us. I’ll tell you one thing he is at best a sixth place hitter.
  • Mets2012 September 15, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Kansas will a place for him. Frenchy is there, too. A laid back place …..No haters, crazy press….
    He will be a Co captain with Frency.
    • metsguppy September 15, 2011 at 7:29 pm

      Agreed. Without the crazy idiotic NY media and idiotic fans Wright would probably hit 330, 30 something HRs and 110 RBIs. Then Mets fans would cry and whine like they do about every other player the fans have cried about until they got traded and did better somewhere else.
      • Metfan September 15, 2011 at 8:15 pm

        I personally would be happy for him, like I am happy for Frenchy. I would wish him well and be happy I won’t have to see him bat with men on base.
  • NJ stuck in TX September 15, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Rejuvenate? Seriously?
• JerseyGuy276 September 15, 2011 at 6:07 pm

  Most impressive. You’ve all managed to shift the blame on the mediocrity of the club from Omar’s poor signings to Wright striking out 3 times in an inning and giving up a grand slam. This isn’t basketball folks. One guy can’t carry you to the postseason no matter how good he is. You could replace Wright with Bautista or Pujols and we still aren’t making the postseason. Seriously. We lost 10-1 today. Sure, the offense sucked big time, but in order for the Nats to score, doesn’t the pitching staff have to like…implode? Or, did Wright give up all 10 runs today?
  • Bayonne Mets Fan September 15, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Hey but at least the team OBP today was .368 so it went up! Woo hoo!
  • metsguppy September 15, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Mets pitching has been a complete joke for years. Thats where the blame should be. The rotating staff of losers has to be fixed. Instead of trying to keep getting big bats year after year the Mets need to get some arms. Big bats won’t win games in the huge stadium the Mets have. They need a good pitching staff not some overpaid left fielder who can’t hit. Another big bat next year won’t make any difference when they really need an arm.
• Fan40+years September 15, 2011 at 6:21 pm

  Been reading for quite some time and Joe and gang and sure worked very hard putting together a great site for Mets fans, but for crying out loud lately you’d think you were reading the venom between Mets and Phillies fans, not Mets fans collectively.
  After reading some posts, I can’t believe how some fans think some issues are so black and white……

  David Wright has certainly played for the last week with his head up his buttocks, doesn’t take a genius to figure that out, but from some comments here you’d think he dropped a routine pop up in the bottom of the 9th at Yankee Stadium vs the Evil Empire for crying out loud. I didn’t read such hatred when Castillo actually did that.
  Wright is not a superstar and I have yet to read anyone on this site say he’s the greatest player ever, although I have read that accusation, never. NEVER.
  Someone actually said that Wright makes excuses, yet the FIRST, yes first article on METS.com is an article “Wright makes NO excuses…………” He has always been a standup guy and has gone over above accepting responsibility. If I missed something, please show me an article where he’s made excuses. Remember there is a difference between reasons and excuses.

  Those in the camp that assume he gets a free pass, do not confuse people writing responses to those treating him like Castillo or Perez as giving him a pass. There has plenty of times he SHOULD have and COULD have played better, but tell me who hasn’t fallen under this category, especially on this team.
  Blaming him for the collapse of 07 and 08 proves one thing; you give him too much credit and are not paying attention to what actually happened. The talk of he was protected by Delgado and Beltran, sure that may be true to some extent, but those saying it, did you forget the VERY EXTENDED slump Delgado was in in 08? Calling it a negative that his RBI’s came in losses makes NO sense. So he’s fighting to win, does his job, the team comes up short so his efforts are not worthy? If that isn’t blind hatred I don’t know what is.

  Let me ask this, some of you want to resign Reyes at any cost, and frankly I REALLY want him back to, but why so quiet on Reyes, sure having a great year with the average, (which some may find interesting in a walk year, yet Wright is called out for stat padding) and he is the most electric player in baseball, but why is it his flubs are never mentioned yet we have hundreds of responses on Wright and his screw ups, by the same people call out Wright as a “golden boy”. Did you forget Reyes’s horrific base running earlier this season? Why hasn’t he stepped up and say he wants to be a leader, he’s here longer then Wright, yet we assume that on Wright and assume he wants that then in the same breath KILL him when the team fails, and forget what was just said THE TEAM failed.

  Again, Wright has some epic fail moments, but for every failure there has been twice as many positive moments, it’s a shame some fans spend more time focusing on the bad that the good goes right by and they miss it.

  Here’s hoping they all come back and play to their potential.
  • Bayonne Mets Fan September 15, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    I think the main problem with all of this is the “Sweeping under the rug” treatment that he gets from some member of the media including Gary Cohen and LOTS of fans who are more Mets fans than baseball fans, not that there’s anything wrong with that – it just is.

    That’s the main problem i have with Wright. I still think the same about him being over-rated, a choker and all that but it’s the “Look the other way” culture that has clouded this organization, and for quite some time now, that has me up in arms more than anything else
    • Donal September 15, 2011 at 6:53 pm

      So, you’re problem with Wright is how you think people who have nothing to do with him talk about him?
    • Fan40+years September 15, 2011 at 9:09 pm

      What about the sweeping under the rug of Reyes? I don’t think its any different or gets done any less (or more), I think fans, particularly on this site have a double standard.

      I also think much of what you said above is all subjective and opinion, yes, it’s a blog, that’s what this is for, but you can’t define a choker by “what you saw” and in the same vain dismiss stats.

      I clearly am not looking the other way, and on this particular site there is FAR more venom towards the guy then praise.
      • Bayonne Mets Fan September 15, 2011 at 9:15 pm

        Hey I agree,

        Reyes let us down big time in September 07 and he did not rise to the occasion of September of 08 either. I just happen to think Wright’s incidents of failing in big spots are worse than Reyes’s overall and sorry to say I don’t think Reyes gets NEARLY the free pass the man with golden smile gets. Sorry but i think we’re gonna disagree big time right there.

        And yes I CAN describe a choker from what I see because I’ve been watching baseball my entire life and have been involved in it in various capacities for much of my life too so YES i feel I am qualified to evaluate things as i see them. You? I don’t know who you are or what your background is since this is an anonymous exchange so I can only speak for myself and what i know. Stats? they can mean various things so in the context of talking about Wright coming through in big spots I know what I’ve seen. and I’ve seen enough.

        But take heart in Alex Rodriguez, a HOFer who had a rep of failing in the biggest of spots until he turned it around in 2009. So if he can do, hey you never know maybe Wright can turn it around one day.
        • Fan40+years September 16, 2011 at 6:15 am

          All perception, not factual, there are plenty of people that have watched baseball as much, as long or longer, doesn’t mean their opinion is any more accurate then mine or yours.

          Thanks for the juvenile response those about golden boy getting away with it because he smiles. Tell me this, why after ever game, of which have been far too many loses the last few years, the cameras are in front of David Wright almost all the time and asking him “what for”, that’s call accountability not a pass.

          You are right, we are going to disagree.
  • metsguppy September 15, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Reyes can not speak English well and he is from another country. NYers have been looking for the next great white player since Piazza left. No one complains about Reyes not producing when really except for his average this year hasn’t been a highlight year for Reyes. His stolen bases are down. RBIs are really low. He has a lot of triples but got most of them before the all star break. Reyes has no power. Reyes really is just fast and even there he hasn’t done anything lately. He is the one really getting the free pass but everyone is on Wright’s case because they expect Wright to be the Mets Joe DiMaggio. Then again, if DiMaggio had played for the Mets he probably would have been booed.
  • OmarFan September 15, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Jose Reyes is the team leader. When he’s around, the win more times than not. Same can’t be said for David Wright. The problem with Jose Reyes is not with him, but rather the media and how he is sold to the fans. Jose Reyes doesn’t speak English like Wright. If he had, he’s treated much more differently, both good and bad. As for talent, neither are considered clutch players, but I much rather have Reyes and his all-around game than the one dimensional David Wright.
    • Fan40+years September 16, 2011 at 6:18 am

      Have you actually been watching this team, they are losing, and Jose Reyes is there. They have a losing record with Jose Reyes. They have NEVER won a thing with Jose Reyes or David Wright for that matter.

      Reyes’s all around game is very good, when he actually plays, you can’t miss as much as he does and think you’re going to win.
• metsguppy September 15, 2011 at 7:22 pm

  I like the Wright haters regurgitating their same arguments and accusing anyone that disagrees with them of being delusional Wright lovers when they are just as delusional as those they are accusing. Wright hasn’t lived up to his potential. This year he broke his back but people expect him to be the same guy he was in 2006. He is older, he has been injured twice seriously since then. Somehow that doesn’t matter though because he should be playing better because fans want him to. Its like they think the baseball fairy will come down sprinkle All Star dust on him and he will somehow not have been injured. I think a large part of it is that fans have been burned in the last few years by Mets players not producing anything and aren’t willing to give anyone time anymore because they are scared. We had Oliver Perez, Luis Castillo, Jason Bay, Johan Santana, all not living up to the hype and being paid a lot to do nothing. That frustration felt by fans has boiled over so that now they aren’t willing to give anyone a chance because they fear another big loser bringing their hopes down.

  David Wright has been a pretty consistant player over his career. He has been injured pretty bad twice and come back not quite the same. He has shown that he is willing to work through his troubles and adjust and come back though. He has averaged .300, 30 HRs and 100RBI most of his career. Even last year he had good numbers, just not good enough for fans. Most teams would love to have David Wright and if fans keep whining and complaining and saying they don’t want him they will eventually get their way and after he is an All Star somewhere else fans will whine and complain that he should have stayed.
• t agee September 15, 2011 at 7:32 pm

  Yeah that’s the thing I don’t get. Hating the guy cause of what other people write or say. Just doesn’t make any sense.

  I got tired of hearing from Wright after every close loss a long, long time ago. I would have much preferred to hear from Reyes, Beltran or Delgado but I sincerely don’t think those guys wanted to get hung up with the media after every game. Maybe I’m wrong but I think the media’s always willing to get a quote or put a big player on the camera but we never heard from those guys. Pedro gave us some time and I always enjoyed hearing from him but his time with us was way too short. El-Duque? I can’t ever recall hearing him talk. Somehow I doubt the media would have turned him down if he was accessable.

  Floyd and Cameron used to get interviewed and that was before SNY. After Floyd and Pedro were gone it became Wright morning noon and night and he’s boring. Has nothing to say and may be a good company man but I’d prefer to hear from Reyes any day. That guy always seems happy and excited and fun to talk to.

  To me Wright really seems to be the off the field spokesman. Reyes is more of the on the field spokesman. I’d like to hear from him once in a while. Reyes to me has always been the most iconic Met. No one has ever brought the type of skills he has to the Mets and as a SS? That’s a nice package. I can really see the day when #7 gets hung on the fence as long as he signs over the off season and if he does then we’ll have our own guy to point to with pride.

  Maybe people feel Beltran and Delgado got slighted by promoting Wright and maybe their correct, or maybe Beltran and Delgado didn’t want the headaches. Reyes though I do believe should have been promoted more than he was because he’s much more of a once in a decade type player than Wright.
• jerseymet September 15, 2011 at 10:03 pm

  I like Wright. Good person, great ballplayer for which he is well paid. David has tried to carry this team since 2009. He has not accomplished winning. He is at the peak of his value. Lets trade him for some pitching. Continue to cut costs.
• Jerry M September 15, 2011 at 11:16 pm

  Maybe its time for a change in scenery for David Wright. Some times players have to have it to get started again. David is too entrenched in the Mets. He needs a trade.
• tlagee September 15, 2011 at 11:44 pm

  Wright is a very good, very solid player. He’s not the problem.

  The Merts, the way they were put together, have had key offensive players go down every year and it had left Wright trying to do too much. Reyes, Beltran and Delgado were the big names recently to be injured. It put Wright in a no-win position.

  Add to that the dimentions of CitiField (designed by Jeff Wilpon) which kills right handed batters.

  Is Wright the best player in baseball? No. But I wouldn’t mind a teamful of Wrights.
• Metsie September 16, 2011 at 1:15 pm

  The answer to the question is really quite simple Joe…

  It’s because of the fact they have OVERRATED their expectations of him and do not like the fact he has not lived up to THIER lofty aspirations for him!

  They want him to hit 40 HRs despite the fact he never has EVER done that!
  They want him to drive in EVERY RUN he is capable of despite the fact no player ever does!

  The disappointment with David Wright has less to do with what David Wright is CAPABLE of doing but EVERYTHING to do with what they percieve he SHOULD be doing!

  And he is the focus because there isn’t much else TO focus on.
  Note when Delgado and beltran were in the linup not much vitriol was spewed at Wright as they had other guys to blame.

  It wasn’t until Delgado was gone and Beltran on the DL that all this attention to David Wright was made!

  Wright is a .290 hitter who will give you roughly 20-30 HRs in a FULL season on average!
  He will strike out a lot and has done so BECAUSE of everyone complaining that he doesn’t hit enough HRs (despite hitting to average numbers last year!)

  And players are people who try to PLEASE the fans and David even moreso than other players in the MLB!

  As a result he was swinging for fences and not focusing on making good contact and strikes out more!

  People forget and I have showed the difference in Wright from 2007 and 2008 is not the fences or the stadium but the batters around him!
  In the years where Wright hit 30 HRs he had two other guys in the lineup hitting 50+ Hrs combined just themselves!
  In the years since he has had a TEAM that EVERYONE COMBINED only hit 40!

  This is the problem with David Wright!
  We EXPECT too much from him and hate him for not meeting those ludicrous expectations and with no one else around him to help or complain about Wright is the top target of fan disaapointment!
  • Bayonne Mets Fan September 16, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Well, according to jessep he does come through with those dramatic fielder’s choices.