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2011
The Underrated, Underappreciated Season of Pedro Beato
An article by XtreemIcon
At first glance, Pedro Beato’s numbers have been nothing if not mediocre. And that’s true. But even at that very same first glance, its obvious Beato has had a decent season and has easily been more good than bad. And that alone puts him in rare company.
The company he keeps as a Rule V draftee is not very impressive as a whole, which admittedly lowers the bar, but the very nature of what a Rule V draftee is puts a “good” rookie season right near the top of the list.
As of this writing, Roberto Clemente is the only Rule V pick to make it to the Hall of Fame. Johan Santana was on a Hall of Fame career path until his latest injury, which puts his future in doubt. Other notable Rule V picks that found their way onto an All Star Team include Shane Victorino, Jayson Werth, Josh Hamilton, Dan Uggla, Joakim Soria, Bobby Bonilla, Darrell Evans, Mike Morgan and Jose Bautista. There have been others to make an All Star Team, 23 in total, but excuse me if I don’t consider Fernando Viña, Dave May and Bip Roberts “notable.” Rarer indeed is the Rule V pitcher to later be named an All Star. Only six have done so.
What puts Pedro Beato in the same company as All Star caliber players? Not a whole lot, except for the fact that Beato might be putting up a top-3 Rule V season in history amongst the top pitchers drafted via Rule V. We certainly know Santana’s early struggles as a major leaguer. Even Roberto Clemente himself struggled (.255/.284/.382, 5 home runs in 501 plate appearances as a 20-year-old in 1955). Granted, Clemente is not a pitcher, but he is one of the game’s greats and Beato is having a better rookie season than he did.
Of the six Rule V pitchers to make even one All Star team, Beato’s had arguably the third-best rookie season behind Hernandez’s 1977 and Soria’s 2007 seasons. Consider the chart of all seven compared to Beato (as of 9/2/11).
*Meek was DFA’d after his 13 IP, but the Pirates purchased his rights outright and demoted him.
**Morgan was not a rookie when left unprotected and subject to the Rule V Draft. The stats reflect his injury-plagued 1985 Rule V season, though his actual rookie year was not much better.
All stats courtesy of Fangraphs except H/9, courtesy of Baseball Reference.
What makes Beato’s season special is that he had never pitched above AA before and likely wouldn’t have seen major league action for the Orioles this season had he not been drafted (a fair assumption since he didn’t even warrant a 40-man roster spot). But the Mets, to their credit, let the kid throw. Many, many Rule V draftees saw no action from the back of the pen because they were not deemed ready but were promising enough to want to keep, or simply DFA’d. But Beato has been thrust into some high-pressure roles and has done well considering his lack of experience.
By definition, relievers are fickle, and accordingly, Beato’s rookie season doesn’t do much to predict his future. But he already seems a leg up on some of the pitchers who turned out pretty well, so keep in mind the context of his season when evaluating his performance.
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| Team | W | L | Pct. | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Braves | 42 | 30 | .583 | - |
| Phillies | 35 | 37 | .486 | 7.0 |
| Nationals | 34 | 36 | .486 | 7.0 |
| Mets | 27 | 40 | .403 | 12.5 |
| Marlins | 22 | 48 | .314 | 19.0 |
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Beato has a .218 batting average against this season, that is elite level and best in the bullpen even if you include K-Rod. Beato got a little unlucky with extra-base hits and had more than a few runs tagged onto his ERA from baserunners other relievers inherited from him. He’s a keeper.
Well, his walk rate didn’t help him, but ya, he’s shown he’s got some good stuff. I think a regular gig will help him.
When you look deeper into him and Parnell’s peripheral numbers, you realize they aren’t as horrible as people think.
Hey Joe, here’s a crazy idea, have him play winter ball as a starter. If it doesn’t work out, whatever, back to the pen, but maybe he could be a rotation guy next year? Just sayin….
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME WITH THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you just proved Xtreem’s title by your reaction. Clearly, Beato is underappreciated – even by you.
On another note – Ive tried emailing you in the past but never got any replies, why dont you just email me directly at GetMetsmerized@aol.com and I wil reply back.
One more thing. Rank the top 5 relievers in the Mets bullpen for us. Whatcha got?
joe,
i just emailed you.. and trust me, when you say top 5 reliever i hope you mean of all time, because there is nothing top on this bullpen.. imo everyone in it sucks.. and who do we blame for that?? ohh, that’s right, omar minaya.
You prove over and over what a child you are. Even if you think they suck why can’t you answer the question, who do you rank from top to bottom in today’s bullpen, clearly some are better then others.
I know facts allude you, but you’ve taken it to a whole new level now.
I’m actually quite serious. What issue do you take with the article?
If I had to guess… that it makes too much sense?
teh CORE duzn’t liek sense!!11!1
Beato is about picking up an arm for the future. What he gives us this near is getting experience for when he is fully ready.
To me, yes Beato struggled here and there but he’s been one of if not the most consistent and effective bullpen arm on the team and how was he found?
The same way they got Brad Emaus. It’s once again the same story. some people focus on that 1 little thing, and they beat it to death while ignoring the other side of things. Emaus failed, but Beato has had success.
How often do Rule 5 draft picks have success? Minimal… yet we focus all of our energy on being negative about Emaus. When Emaus was just like almost every other Rule 5 pick.
I certainly want to see this product of a Queens HS back in our pen next year. Too young and too inexperienced to give up on, though I admit I have cursed his name de vez en quando.
hahajaja, russell!!!!!! As usual, el CORE te saluda!!
O “El núcleo te saluda”.
O “El centro te saluda”.
Either will do.
yeah, but had i said it completely in spanis-h, then donal, jesseP and that other guy who’s been stalking me wouldn’t have seen it.. i have to make sure i use the word CORE in my comment..
Usted puede utilizar el núcleo palabra en cualquier idioma que desea, todavía no sabemos nada de béisbol. Con cada post que demostrar lo inmaduro que eres y que son un desperdicio de ancho de banda.
I used Google translate, I’m sure to my Spanish speaking friends that’s equivalent to posting all I know about Moneyball from a link on Wikipedia.
The main problem with what you translated though is where it says “todavía no sabemos nada de béisbol” you basically included yourself in not knowing anything about baseball.
What I think you wanted to convey is “todavía no sabes nada de béisbol”
MNJ,
don’t help him man.. don’t encourage him
Thanks MNJ – my point was that me using Google translate shows what little I know about Spanish, as someone that quotes Wikipedia about Moneyball claims to know and understand it.
listen joe smith, i was banned here once for using spanish, even if you insult me in spanish someone else can come here and translate, i try ignoring your post as much as possible, make sure you’d be careful with insults, i haven’t seen one poster insult you yet that’s all you’re doing and now even in spanish?? that is not tolerate it here.. i am not gonna translate what you said, but just be careful man noone in here want you banned, but this stalking you got with me is a little creepy.. every time you see my post… move on man!! move onnnnnn
there he goes lying again. Alex for starters the only time you were reprimanded for speaking spanish was when you physically threatened people but did so in spanish and somebody called you out on it.
You actually got banned because you repeatedly were saying inappropriate things and then got in an argument with Kay and then JoeD saw it and finally cut you loose.
Just in case you try to deny it.
“Alex68, despite a few warnings from me and some of my co-writers, you continue to insult or antagonize several of the people in our community. Therefore, you have been suspended from commenting.
I was hoping that you would eventually find a way to co-exist with everyone, but that no longer seems possible.
Every blog post has become your personal battleground. You have this idea that you can dictate which blogs are worthy of posting and which aren’t. That’s not your decision, it’s all of ours.
We don’t expect our readers to love every post, but we do expect them to follow our guidelines and be respectful to our fellow readers and our writers.
None of us are compensated for blogging about the Mets. It’s a labor of love. We don’t ask for much… just a little understanding, some respect, and the ability to exchange our opinions freely without fear of an unfair backlash or attack.
If you want to discuss this further, feel free to use our contact form. But for now, consider yourself banned from commenting indefinitely.”
So please stop making stuff up, and stop pretending you don’t do what everybody says you do. It’s mildly funny to me that you’re telling JoeSmith to move on when you comment, yet everybody here knows you would walk through fire to reply to me. Enough Alex.
we could’ve solve any issues we have, if you would’ve come to the game with me.. i did invite you didn’t i? man to man, face to face me and you.. you keep getting some sort of satisfaction showing this to everyone, i did not antagonize, we had discussion and some escalated yes, but you went like a little ***** to joe D several times, noone else did, YOU DID, if you notice other ppl were saying women belong in the kitchen and stuff, and i was blame for it fine, yes i admit it, i did insult you in spanish and SARGE translate it in english, i admit it, and that is why i try to tell josmith NOT TO DO IT, is obvious i don’t like you, but even enemies can show respect, this is why you imo are sooo arrogant, is there a need for you to show this to everyone to make you feel more of a man or something?? is fine, i am back, and here to stay you f*ing loser..
moving on… i have no obsession with you at all.. but is funny how you seem to have forgotten how you insulted me and called me uneducated.. is fine.. no harm done man.. move on when you see my post and i’ll do the same..
Alex:
You need to just walk away. For starters, I didn’t get you banned. Your actions did. Your discussion was with Kay when you got banned, not with me.
If you’re going to toss around accusations, be able to back them up. JoeD clearly stated why you were banned. And when you were, somebody (not me) replied Good Riddance!
I don’t know why you are obsessed with me, but you need to just chill out. It’s getting old, and I’m tired of it.
Well if speaking Spanish is a offense to get banned, why did you respond to Russel in Spanish?
btw I am a big fan of Google and all they do.
including run baseball teams
que????????
Well, MLB is bilingual, so we have to keep up, too, right?
I used to be a sort of competent Spanish speaker and reader; those days are gone. Still, it’s fun.
Vamanos Los Mets!
lol, fine with me russell..
let’s go mets sounds better in englis-h…
So, he’s dumb in 2 languages
Donal, your response cracked me up. It’s great. Sorry, Alex — er, CORE!!
Funny how “writers” from this blog continuously bait people into arguments. Then when the arguments get heated, they resort to “banning” those they don’t agree with. Appears pretty weak.
Instead of arguing, you guys should simply write and comment. If someone disagrees with you, stop acting as if the blog belongs to you. If you want to argue, fight and and stuff of that nature, STOP writing for the blog. As a writer, all you do is create an avenue where the average Met fan will not read the blog because it’s more a limited “community” of people who share A view instead of various views. Being a Met fan doesn’t give you the right to dictate how Met fans should think. If they think your views are “STUPID”, you as a writer need to suck it up. Crying to upper management because your feelings were hurt cheapens the site. Sure, it’s nice to have a board of respectable Met fans sharing views, but that’s not reality. People are going to have differences of opinion. That’s expected. What I see here is a group of “regs” annoyed because Alex shares his opinion in a manner that “bothers” the “regs” of the blog. Problem is the writers are entertaining the arguing. If you’re a writer, it’s your “JOB” not to ruin the blog by getting into mudslinging with the people who make this site work. If it weren’t for the visitors, there wouldn’t be a blog. The writers DON’T make this blog work. It’s those who visit and comment (the majority) who make it work. This isn’t simply a buddy list of Met fans. I’m sure there are a few hundred maybe few thousand who follow the site.
I started following the site to check how the kids in the minors were doing. It was cool seeing the reports come in from people who actually watched the kids play. This blog could be much better if the WRITERS stuck to simply writing articles and not entertaining arguments with site members, which leads to bans. If you can’t help yourself or can’t handle people talking back to you, you should check your emotions at the door or STOP ruining the blog by discontinuing your duty as writer.
When “Regs”/writers decide to dictate the type of discussions on a blog, the blog will not survive. Instead of a nice lawn, you will have weeds ruining it. That’s what the “regs”/writers will create with actions like the one above. Clean up your act, fellas. I won’t mention names, because the writers KNOW who they are.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME WITH THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ($1 to Alex68)
You need to read what you just wrote and heed your own advise. This is quite possibly the most Hypocritical post I’ve read.
The writer of this blog wrote nothing baiting, or mentioned anyone, did you actually read the blog?
He wrote an article, showed the facts backing up his writing, what is so wrong with that?
You come here, bait people in your response are incapable of having an adult debate and now have the audacity to call out others for doing what you are guilty of every day?
WOW – all new levels of arrogance now.
I’m confused with your accusation, Omar.
Let me get this straight. Writing a post that simply said Pedro Beato is underrated and then backing it up with logic and facts is considered baiting to you?
On to your other point, dull as it may be, in almost seven years (wow, I cant believe it’s been that long), I have banned six people from this site. Four were for racially charged comments, and two were for making derogatory insults toward women.
Is that something you have a problem with and do you think that type of behavior should be tolerated? Forget who the women were, and imagine if it was your daughter or wife or sister who simply came here to share a positive comment about their favorite player and then getting insulted and called names I cant repeat here… Is that okay with you? Can you understand why I felt the need to ban those two?
So let’s do some math: six-plus years, 365 days a year, 200-300 comments on average each of those days, six bans. And three of those bans didn’t even last a week. Yeah, I’m a real hard ass… If you only knew how much stuff is tolerated here as compared to some sites where you banned at will for simply disagreeing with an author.
You say people should be entitled to come here and disagree with each other. That’s exactly right and readers and bloggers have been doing exactly that for over six years. It’s one of the reasons why this community has grown to 10,000+ different readers who read this site every day. That’s readers, not page views which can top half a million on some days.
We are not discouraging debate here, instead we encourage it and welcome it. If you have a problem with debating in the civilized sense, than maybe you should direct your concerns at yourself and not at any particular bloggers or commenters here.
This is a site for Mets fans to debate about everything regarding the team, off the field and on, as well as anything else baseball related. That’s our reality.
Maybe it’s you that needs the reality check.
Joe I am making an observation. I didn’t direct my comments towards anyone in particular, so I don’t see why you need to come to anyone’s defense. You SEE what’s going on. A blind man can see it. I’m baited daily, but the only person I directly hammer over the head is Donal, because I personally think the man is stupid.
And “facts” when it comes to debating sports is cute. People who use statistics to support their argument are not using any facts. They’re using their stats to form an opinion. Stats don’t make anything factual. They offer suggestions and that’s it. That’s reality, my man.
You’re going off track regarding my post. Once again, the WRITERS on this blog BAIT PEOPLE INTO ARGUMENTS. Then they turn it into a personal battle. When the posters respond, the complaints arise. Let’s stick to the topic, Joe. There’s enough spinning that goes on for you to spin my argument.
OmarFan – Basically I felt the nedd to go into defense mode because of the very first line in your comment:
>>>Funny how “writers” from this blog continuously bait people into arguments. Then when the arguments get heated, they resort to “banning” those they don’t agree with. Appears pretty weak.<<<
You absolutely directed your comment to someone, our writers as a whole, and I feel obligated to defend them because of the amazing job they do sharing their opinions on the team they love without compensation. I will always defend them especially againsy uncalled for attacks and false accusations. That’s the least I could do for them.
I’m the only person who can ban anyone, none of our writers have ever asked me to ban someone. I already explained about why I’ve banned only six people in almost seven years.
I dont have to spin your argument because your argument has no legs. You mention Donal by name as one writer you have a problem with, but here’s a news flash… Donal has never been a writer here, only a commenter like you, but that’s where the similarity ends.
I think you need to rethink your strategy. You’re running around in circles and complaining about writers baiting you, yet you dont even offer and evidence of it, flimsy or otherwise.
I think you’re just shadow boxing right now.
Did I ever say Donal was a writer? There you go spinning my argument to fit your need, Joe. What I said about Donal is he’s the only person I hammer with critical words about his intelligence.
If you think some of your writers don’t bait people into fights by blatant and obvious name calling/disrespect, I suggest you’re covering their rears for whatever reason. If I’m shadow boxing, then you’re a rug that covers up an ugly floor that needs to be re-done.
Should I point out every little piece of baiting that goes on between some of your more disrespectful writers and the regs who disagree with their views? Perhaps you’re too busy patting your writers on the back? For the record, no one is “running around in circles” and what not. I’m being pretty direct. The one here who doesn’t agree, or doesn’t want to believe, is YOU. Give me a break, man.
Here’s a newsflash for YOU! Some of your writers don’t walk on water. Stop treating them like they’re God’s gift to the internet world of free reporting. Some do a fantastic job, while others are doing your site a disservice. Instead of focusing on guys doing well, why don’t you open your eyes to the people I’m talking about. Just because they all volunteer to write, doesn’t mean they’re pristine individuals.
SO it’s ok for you to call people names an insult those that don’t agree with your agenda?
DO you know what debate means?