Comments on: Shut Up With The “Moneyball Mets”! http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html Wed, 22 May 2013 00:48:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Derek C. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-184218 Derek C. Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:47:12 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-184218 Great Post! I agree with you on almost everything. I think you left out one major thing. That is the job that Terry Collins has done this season by keeping his players motivated and focused. Other than that, great post!

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183985 t agee Sat, 24 Sep 2011 03:31:02 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183985 Yeah what’s your excuse for Delgado’s bad first half in 2008? Broken wrist on the last day of the 2007 season? OK. What’s your excuse for his bad first half in 2007?

How about his bad August’s in both 2007 and 2008?

What’s your excuse for those? Or are four mediocre or bad months months by our second best hitter in seasons in which we missed the playoffs by one game “meaningless?”

We’d all like to hear what your excuses are for those.

]]> By: JoeSmith http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183980 JoeSmith Sat, 24 Sep 2011 03:17:51 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183980 So now you are sucking up to Michael Kay and the Yankees…….

]]> By: JoeD 1966 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183949 JoeD 1966 Sat, 24 Sep 2011 01:05:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183949 You are both blind and ignorant.Wright sucks in the clutch.

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183940 Donal Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:10:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183940 So, Minaya was a better GM than Cashen?

Is that what you are saying?

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183922 Metsie Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:41:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183922 Three straight years playing for the division is a FLUKE yet what Cashen did in winning only one WS and then collapsing was a resounding success?

You know I don’t really need to comment on that because I think that speaks VOLUMES about the source that said it!

IGNORE ON!

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183918 Donal Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:24:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183918 No, that’s crap. Alderson has to show tangible progress, but 2006 was a fluke and their respective situations are different.

Or are you about to tell me Minaya was a better GM than Frank Cashen?

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183917 Metsie Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:16:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183917 Well he has one more year to accomplish what Omar did when he first got here!

Our system was in MUCH worse shape when Omar took over than when Sandy…
There was no Ike Davis, Daniel Murphy, Rueben Tejada, Justin Turner, Lucas Duda, Matt Harvey, Jeurys Familia, and all those other kids you don’t think much of when you slam Omar for his work!

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183915 Metsie Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:14:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183915 Mostly because Sandy hasn’t REALLY done moneyball!
And in the few sample cases where he did the guys he got failed even by Moneyball and Sabermetric standards! So they in NO WAY want to tie what he has done so far with Moneyball which to some religionists is a can’t fail sure fire way to the playoffs! LOL

And I don’t put Pro-Sabers into the same category as the Moneyballers myself. Sabers is about Stats, Moneyball is about CHEAP! Cheap doesn’t always translate to GOOD STATS, neither does walletball or Sabers.

Truth here is Sandy didn’t really use Moneyball and really had nothing to do with Aquiring the players that made the teams numbers FIT with the aquisition goals OF moneyball!

Sandy is going to MAKE an offer for Reyes and the Moneyballers are going to cry about how much he spent especially if Reyes doesn’t repeat in the fight for the batting title next year!

Especially if we fail to compete…
And if we DO many will try again to say it’s all about the moneyball regardless of if it was actually used because it’s about the philosophy not ACTUAL EVENTS!

Those are the folks I rail against X, Not the pro Sabers!
Stats are good provided you know their limitations and you do not allow bias to creep into the calculation!
As Clint always said, Man has to know his limitations!

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183902 Donal Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:42:22 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183902 Hey, Joe referenced the leverage scale as well.

]]> By: JoeD 1966 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183900 JoeD 1966 Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:36:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183900 I agree with that! That’s pretty much what I said.

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183897 Donal Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:34:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183897 “You are blind or ignorant if you think Wright hits in the Clutch”

Or, I can simply refer to actual documented evidence.

“High leverage isn’t always with the game on the line”

Yes, the leverage goes up the more the game is on the line.

“Situations like yesterday’s 9th inning at bat are the norm not the exception with Wright.”

Do you have anything but anecdotes to support that?

“Do you really need to repeat everything I write.”

It makes it easier to follow your point.

“.Yes you’re right about people lying.Especially to themselves when it comes to Wright.”

Hey! We agree!

“It’s time you look in the mirror.”

…or not

]]> By: JoeD 1966 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183894 JoeD 1966 Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:30:15 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183894 Donal does.He hits well in high leverage situations.Hilarious!

]]> By: JoeD 1966 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183893 JoeD 1966 Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:28:44 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183893 You are blind or ignorant if you think Wright hits in the Clutch.High leverage isn’t always with the game on the line.Situations like yesterday’s 9th inning at bat are the norm not the exception with Wright.Do you really need to repeat everything I write.Yes you’re right about people lying.Especially to themselves when it comes to Wright.It’s time you look in the mirror.

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183888 Donal Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:16:19 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183888 We won’t know for a little while. You think fixing the problems this team has happens in a few weeks?

]]> By: Vinny B http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183886 Vinny B Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:14:25 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183886 That’s because runs scored is down from when it was then.

]]> By: XtreemIcon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183885 XtreemIcon Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:10:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183885 The only guy who tried to tie the improvement to Moneyball was Lennon. If you haven’t noticed, the pro-saber readers here have been all over him for that.

]]> By: XtreemIcon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183882 XtreemIcon Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:08:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183882 THAT’S an excuse for not being able to win? Why don’t you roll out all your 87 excuses about heart-wrenching, soul-crushing losses in the past five years. And then the rest of them, all the way back to 1973.

]]> By: XtreemIcon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183881 XtreemIcon Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:06:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183881 The A’s gave up more runs per game during that time with their three big pitchers than they did during the last five terrible seasons.

]]> By: Bayonne Mets Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/09/shut-up-with-the-moneyball-mets.html#comment-183873 Bayonne Mets Fan Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:20:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=61457#comment-183873 Hey t agee, Angel Pagan was intentionally walked to face David Wright last night in the 9th inning…AGAIN it happens..and with the game on the line again. Do you have an excuse for that this time? Like you did the other day when Lucas Duda was walked to face Wright? You gonna give me that lefty/right garbage again?

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