17
2011
Mets Won’t Wait For Reyes, Beltran Urges Giants To Sign Him
An article by Hojo's Mojo
A quote from ESPN’s Jason Stark in this week’s Rumblings & Grumblings:
The buzz coming out of Flushing is that the Mets have very little interest in waiting around this winter for Jose Reyes to decide whether to stay or bolt. One source who’s tight with the Mets brass tells Rumblings they’re “either going to be in or out real quick.”
The Mets’ baseball people haven’t met yet to lay out their offseason game plan. But if Reyes’ preference is to test the market, collect offers and then ask the Mets to counter, there are indications that the Mets don’t want to play by that script. And Reyes’ lackluster second half (.277/.316/.378, with only six stolen-base ATTEMPTS) only figures to reinforce their reluctance to do anything crazy right out of the chute to keep him from exploring the market.
The two DL stints and the fact he’s not going full throttle now certainly doesn’t help his chances of getting the payday everyone originally thought he would get.
Meanwhile out on the West Coast, Carlos Beltran is schmoozing the Giants on the virtues of going after Reyes this offseason.
“The first option for this team should be finding a guy who’s a leadoff batter,” Beltran said in the San Francisco Chronicle. “Then, if you want to add another bat, I could be the second option.
“I think that’s what I see from this year, the time that I’ve been here. We’ve had great pitching, a great bullpen. At the end of the day, the issue here has been, the team doesn’t score runs. The only way you can manufacture runs is to have a guy at the top of the lineup who gets on base, steals bases and makes the job easier for the guys behind.”
How do you like them apples?
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He’s gone.
somehow, I don’t see the Giants are going to spend the $30mill/year or so it will cost to sign these 2 guys (or I should say, what they will be holding out trying to get!)
That will be a lot of money on the DL with leg issues for them.
Beltran back on a 1 year deal of modest base + games played incentives though, that would be fine.
Desperation is what always ensures an over pay. Giants are just one of many teams desperate for both a leadoff hitter and a SS.
One of them will be sure to separate themselves from the pack year wise and the onus will then be on every one else (including us) to step up. After everyone’s met their maximum possible investment it’ll be up to Reyes to weigh the difference in money vs. the difference in all the other considerations and make his decision.
My feeling is one year less with us isn’t a problem but two means he’s gone so if someone goes 7 that means 6 guaranteed years.
Seven years for SF may be a little rich for them. They will have to pay Lincecum, Cain, Bumgarner, Posey at some point and their experience with free agents excepting Bonds hasn’t been all that good. Rowand, Zito, Edgardo. Seven years is no sure bet with SF.
LAA have Wells for another 3 years, Abreu vested so he’s back, Weaver was friendly but that’s another 14 M a year over 5 and relative to their position Aybar was the best hitter in the lineup. Conger, Bourjas, Trumbo and Trout should provide good production inexpensively and Hunter is up after 2012 but so are Kendrick and Aybar at 28 and 29 and Santana and Haren at 29 and 31 and Pinero has to be replaced so the LAA are going to be looking at spending a load of money over the next couple of years just to keep what they have and nothing inspiring even close in the starting pitching dept. Closer yes, starting pitcher, no. Their experience with free agents has been a real mixed bag too. Hunter and Pinero OK, Guerrero great, Vaughn terrible and Crawford not living up to his deal so far with Boston. Now though is a chance to seize LA away from the Dodgers for the foreseeable future and add one of the Majors most exciting stars so I wouldn’t put it past them but seven? I’d say they’ll hold at 5 + vesting option and try to sell Jose on LA. That could be a problem as could Washington, Philly, Boston, Cards if they lose Pujols and you could even see a team like Texas trading Andrus for a starting pitcher. It all depends on how far anyone wants to go.
The Giants have been craving Reyes for two years. Most of the talking heads say they are the team that will go after Reyes the hardest followed by the Phillies. If Alderson is going to give Reyes a take it or leave it offer and not got to war to keep the best prospect out of the Mets minors in 25 years, he will be laughed out of the business.
With Reyes ,Beltran and their pitching……. I think Reyes is gone.
Beltran can gauge the Giants’ interest and coach Reyes.
Beltran will not sign a one year deal with Boras as his agent, he will be looking for a final mulit year deal to close out his career and I doubt Giants will offer more than one year deal to him.
Jose would be a good fit all around for Giants but if he means what he said and wants to stay in NY then he should remember how he has finished out 2011 and not hold up the Mets for ridiculous money that other teams might offer, IF he wants to finish he career in NY with his partner David.
LMAO @ Jayson Stark knowing what Alderson is thinking.
Source= Stark’s very fertile imagination.
It’s as funny as the goons on THIS site that think they know what Alderson is thinking.
why not, i can see the giants signing reyes and beltran, combined they make 24 to 28 million per, with reyes contract backloaded, sometimes is not about $ but about winning, when you win you’re happy, is not the same when you lose. if i am reyes, the giants offer same as the mets or better, i bolt. who knows when this team will be competitive again, with the OBP mentality and the “high rewards/low risk” we’d be signing the next few years until nimmo and wheeler are ready, there;s no foreseeable future in this franchize. as much as i love reyes, it’ll come down to who alderson gets this offseason that makes reyes changes his mind about stayong here.. imo
Yeah, Reyes and Beltran worked out so awesome for us, you know, with all those World Series appearances, that the Giants would be ***CRAZY*** not to add them both.
Maybe the Giants want Wright too? They could steal our entire “CORE”, and enjoy the same scary success that we’ve seen in Queens.
Because let’s face it, any team with Reyes, Beltran, and Wright could never possibly fail.