Game Preview: Reds vs Mets

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• srt September 27, 2011 at 5:18 pm

  Hmmmm…..Breaking News.

  The judge in the clawback case has dismissed all but 2 counts against the Wilpons and Katz.

  Can we please resign Reyes now?

  Seriously, they must have seen this as a good chance of happening since the minority investor deal fell through at the 11th hour.
  • Bayonne Mets Fan September 27, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Yep,

    Francesa just said now the Mets will have about 120 million dollar payroll and that’s what Alderson, Depo, & Ricciardi were asking for. Now they got it and many good GMs have won with that payroll so now here’s their chance.

    Now let’s go get that pitching we’ve been talking about.
• srt September 27, 2011 at 6:04 pm

  And more: Sandy has just announced on SNY that the Mets have just picked up the 2013 option on Terry Collins contract
  • Bayonne Mets Fan September 27, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Extending Collins is premature move so I don’t know why Alderson did it unless there’s some type of financial savings by doing it. With these guys you don’t know.
    • XtreemIcon September 27, 2011 at 6:45 pm

      Clutch tastes like victory.
      • Bayonne Mets Fan September 27, 2011 at 7:00 pm

        Yep, it tastes like Champagne as a matter of fact.

        But those types of things don’t interest you guys especially when you need proof that non-visible things like clutch and carbon monoxide do exist.
        • XtreemIcon September 27, 2011 at 7:25 pm

          When did I get saddled with this clutch doesn’t exist thing? I thought you outgrew making up lies. Guess not.

          Lies taste like victory.
          • Bayonne Mets Fan September 27, 2011 at 10:07 pm

            XtreemIcon says:
            May 16, 2011 at 5:50 pm
            In the interest of full disclosure, I don’t agree with it, either. I think clutch is immeasurable and doesn’t exist.
            • XtreemIcon September 28, 2011 at 1:09 am

              Where’d you dig that one up? I searched every post from the 16th back a week and couldn’t find that.
        • Donal September 27, 2011 at 7:26 pm

          You are just a treasure trove of inanity and nonsense.
          • XtreemIcon September 27, 2011 at 7:36 pm

            Inanity and nonsense tastes like victory.
          • Bayonne Mets Fan September 27, 2011 at 10:23 pm

            Donal says:
            September 13, 2011 at 3:55 pm
            To paraphrase a great man:

            Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that clutch existed. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.

            Donal says:
            September 14, 2011 at 12:56 pm
            what you need to do is find actual evidence clutch exists.
            • Donal September 27, 2011 at 10:57 pm

              Ya, thanks. I know what I said. I don’t remember contradicting it.
              • t agee September 27, 2011 at 11:46 pm

                If Clutch does exist it would have to be defined. What is it? BA with RISP in late and close games? I think we could all agree that that is the best definition or maybe you go with % of runners on driven in, in those situations or something else but it would have to be performance over and above what the player produces in ALL situations before you can label that player clutch.

                In fact it would be pretty difficult to label someone clutch who hasn’t had 2 or 3 years worth of AB’s in whatever situation you decide to go with. All you could do there is say that someone has come through with some clutch hits early in his career but it would be premature to label the player clutch yet, excepting perhaps some monster clutch hits in the pennant race and post season over more than just one year.

                So if clutch exists, tell us. Who’s clutch? Let’s get some examples going. Some guys who are currently active so we can continue to follow them and see if they keep it up. Guys who have had a few years and appear to be good examples of players who have displayed this character trait so far. First guesses, not second guesses.

                Guys on other teams. Guy’s in the AL, NL across the spectrum of Major League baseball.

                Whatever reasonable criteria anyone wants to select and a performance that is 10-15% better in those situations.

                Doesn’t have to be a big hitter either. Give us a handful of guys who aren’t good hitters but raise their game in those situations and a handful of guys who are good hitters and do the same.

                After all if the character trait exists, it should be easy to identify 10 guys bare minimum who posses it who are both in the Majors long enough to have a certain track record and young enough that they can be expected to get plenty of more opportunities.

                You select the criteria and the threshold of performance above the norm.

                Don’t just tell us who isn’t clutch, tell us who is, and most importantly who’s going to continue to be.

                Any takers?
    • srt September 27, 2011 at 7:07 pm

      I’m going with that whole ‘lame duck’ manager mindset – sorta like Riggleman this year.

      So the rumors go, Collins was brought in for 2 years during the ‘transition’. That probably would have become a real distraction about mid season next year.