Comments on: Nothing Pretty at Citi

By: gary s.

gary s. — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 03:23:17 +0000

How many of you posters ever go to a game?I defy you to tell me anything about those outfield walls looks normal when you are sitting at the ballpark for a game.One other question for you “experts”.What the hell is a “mo zone” and what is that monstrosity doing in a major league ballpark?

By: Double C

Double C — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 23:35:49 +0000

Hey Could We make the Park Look For Metsie…Like Blue Outfield Walls etc…There lacks a bit of atmosphere.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:47:20 +0000

And your typical HR hitter averages around 40!

The problem is people blame the Walls for Wright not hitting 40 HRs.
When he has never BEEN a 40 HR guy like Howard or Pujols!

They WANT him to be but he is not that player!

Wright currently has 8 HRs

If he wasn’t hurt in June which is usually where he hits the hottest He would likely have had about 10-15 Hrs by the All Star break. Which means another 10-15 in july August and September to reach his AVERAGE HR totals.

Nothing wrong with the Walls in Citi!
Something wrong with people expecting David Wright to be Ryan Howard!

By: alex68

alex68 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:28:42 +0000

metsie. he had 26 27 30 33 in 4 consecutive years, avg on 29 hr per.. that’s not bad.. so by your calculation, wright has had 2 seasons if 30 hr’s or more, and 5 total of 25+ hr’s..

By: Bundy

Bundy — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:09:10 +0000

Wright’s homerun numbers went down in 09

They were right back where in the ball park with 29 last year

In case you don’t know the previous years those weren’t all at Shea stadium either so what’s your point?

29 homeruns last year is not good? No you want to define the guy on low homeruns from one year in his career.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:02:49 +0000

Wright hit 30 HRs one year only…the rest of the time he was in the low to mid 20′s Which is about right for a line drive hitter!

Just cause you guys like to see bobbing apples doesn’t mean david wright is the guy to make it bob for you!

He’s not a HR hitter and bringing in the wals isn’t going to make him one!
He also had a hell of a team around him like Beltran and Delgado hitting behind him when he hit those 30 HRs that year!

You want to see 30 HRs from Wright again? Leave the walls alone, go bet an OFer who can hit HRs like Fiedler or Howard to complement Ike Davis and Wright will get those fat pitches to hit over ANY wall!

By: alex68

alex68 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:38:38 +0000

Lmao, well, wright was a 30 hr hitter and bay a 30+ hr hitter, then, citi field came up, and the hr numbers down!!!!! i posted how wright has had 21 hr’s in more than 650 at bats since 2009.. not good..

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:33:34 +0000

Maybe we should just get Joshua to parade the Ark around CitiField like he did at Jerico and those walls everyone seems so obsessed with will come tumbling down!

The Walls don’t seem to affect guys like Howard, and Davis…

The problem isn’t the walls it is our expectations of guys like David Wright and Jason Bay to hit HRs.

By: alex68

alex68 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:22:50 +0000

usually players do better at home then on the road, mainly because they DO play 81 games at home, is always changing on the road, with this stadium is onbvious the players are frustrated, no matter how hard you hit it, is HUMONGOUS, i’ve been there about 6 or 7 times, different spots, and everytime i’ve gone i find the park bigger… also, it plays with the players physic.. wright 21 hr’s at home in over 650+ at bats… yikes

By: gary s.

gary s. — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:36:04 +0000

Kevin, Thank you.The defense rests.

By: kevin

kevin — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:09:57 +0000

There wouldnt have been a grand slam single thats for sure!!! It would have been caught at the warning track.

By: gary s.

gary s. — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:59:32 +0000

Just one more follow up to the distances in Citicavern.I have watched the mets yearbook shows on SNY durung rain delays and have come to the following conclusion.Almost all the great moments in mets history at shea that involved a game winning home run at Shea would have been outs at Citifield.Please bring in the fence from center to right center and get rid of the high wall in left field.

By: jdon

jdon — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:59:23 +0000

right center is patently unfair. 415 for a gap? Other than that, I really do not care. Yes maybe the wall is too high. Cleveland has high walls. What the league should do is redesign band boxes.

By: jessep

jessep — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:59:16 +0000

Jason, I think the problem is consistency to be honest.

I don’t buy into any problems with the ballpark and how it plays out because frankly, Jose Reyes doesn’t have the type of year he’s having without the help of Citi Field. Guys like Pelfrey benefit tremendously from Citi Field. I mean Reyes has 4 road triples to 12 at home. Pelf’s ERA since Citi Field has been consistently almost 2 runs lower at home than on the road.

In 2009 the Mets were a horrendous 29-52 on the road and 41-40 at Citi Field.

Last year they were 47-34 at home and 32-49 on the road.

So it’s all about consistency to me. Teams like St. Louis and San Fran have very pitcher friendly parks as well… in San Fran’s case they built the team around the park. Hence the ability to win a game by scoring 3 runs a game.

You don’t hear too much about St. Louis being so pitcher friendly but it is. They just have the right pieces in place to remain a consistent threat.

I’m not going to complain if they ever move the fences in a bit, but you’ll never hear me say the stadium is why the team struggles. The team struggles because the team isn’t built for the stadium…yet

By: gary s.

gary s. — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:55:18 +0000

I have written about my dislike for Citifield since day one.Most people disagree with me, which is ok, it’s a free country.I HATE THE DISTANCES TO THE FENCES IN THAT PLACE!!Everytime i attend a game there and i look at the outfield i just shake my head at the enormity of the outfield!I think most people would agree that Shea was a fair park to pitchers and hitters.Why not bring the same distances to the new park.The Yankees did.Plus our best power hitter is a gap hitter (wright).Why would you try and negate your best player with a 415 foot distance to right center.I know most people are going to say the opposition will hit more home runs also.Philly plays in a bandbox and that hasn’t stopped them from having enormous success.I go to 10 games a year and most of them are snorefests.I attended tuesday nite and me and my brother counted about 5 balls (both teams) would have been out at shea.The absurd part is that 4 of them were caught!!

By: MetFan Lou

MetFan Lou — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:04:33 +0000

So if we have a 500 team this means they have problems in the other ballparks too? Ralph Kiner played for Pittsburgh. He said he walked into Forbes Field the first time and dead center was 456 feet and left field 350 feet. The Polo Grounds had a deep center over 450 feet. If you can’
t play ball don’t put the uniform on-anywhere!

By: alex68

alex68 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:43:24 +0000

jason,
good article, the thing is the mets got 10 more games to play at home than in the road, with that being said, if’s.. you know how many if’s i can come up regarding this season?? the bottom line is, if’s don’t matter, it is what it is, could we had been better? yes, but we aren’t. and the front office was the first one to realize that we weren’t good enough back in january, thefore no matter what out record said we were in july, krod and beltran were gone, to strip payroll and start building for the future… so, i guess we’ll see what happens in 2014…