Comments on: Looking Toward 2012: Parnell Or Beato For Closer? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html Mon, 20 May 2013 02:16:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Petey Pete http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173429 Petey Pete Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:37:44 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173429 yeah man, I don’t want either one of those guys for my closer next year, I don’t trust either one, I hope SA can find someone worthwhile to bring in.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173337 Metsie Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:26:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173337 I wasn’t thinking Smoltz but he is a good example as well…
I was looking no further than our own jason Isringhausen who also has had more operations than the Milton Bradley toy and manage to put together quite a career once he went from starting to closing.

Santana has the MAKEUP to be a closer…Neither of the potential candidates we are talking about do.

And even if it’s just a year until Santana builds up arm strength and does what he can to get back to velocity, It’s still a very good use of his time and value for his salary and we can always make him a starter again after that!

I do agree that pitching as often as a reliever does could be considered more of a workout than starting every 5th day. But I’m looking at it that if he can’t do that with only sporadic days of needing to sit out then no way he was going to last 200 Innings either.

The question would be will he overthrow in save situations more than he would as a starter and that I can not say with any certainty!

]]> By: any http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173321 any Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:20:23 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173321 The santana idea, that is a new one. But, I guess Smoltz did set a precedant for that! Not going to happen though would be my guess. While durability is an issue, quite likely having to get ready quick and rebound to pitch consecutive days will be just as big of one.

Beato was a SP through 2009 I believe, and never really clicked. His MiL “breakout” last year was as a short revliever. They could decide to put him in the minors next year to stretch back out, but I think it is a better bet that he settles in to a pen role for the future. maybe not closer, but he does have a live arm.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173312 Metsie Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:44:11 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173312 NEITHER if you ask me…

I like the idea of stretching Beato out and turning him into a potential starter.
His main problem out of the pen seems to be some days he seems to be warmed up and pitches well and the next he has to find himself first (hopefully before he blew the lead) in order to be effective.

I think making him a starter is the first best destiny for him, he has the stuff, maybe not the makeup or quick readiness needed for the Pen.

And Idea I have floated recently is to make Santana the closer until he has shown he will stay healthy. It may seem like cottling but he has the makeup to be a closer and maybe not the durability to be a starter any longer.

It would help get SOME value for the money he is getting and his presence in the Pen could only be a plus!

The question is would he accept such a proposition which I have to say I don’t know and doubt it.

But I still think it might be the smart play for the team.

]]> By: jessep http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173288 jessep Wed, 17 Aug 2011 18:06:22 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173288 “but since you chose not to come, i will always see you as what you truly are”

As somebody with better things to do than to go to a Mets game with a total stranger who instigates flame wars with me on a daily basis?

I don’t think you would have gotten banned for saying that.

]]> By: metsaddict77 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173296 metsaddict77 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 17:37:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173296 it’s like choosing a pacer or a gremlin, ewww.

]]> By: alex68 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173295 alex68 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 17:22:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173295 again, i will prob go to citi field again this year, i will let you know the date, if i do, i will invite you as i did last time, that way you can come watc h the game with me, i’ll promise to pay anything you want (beer or food of course) while we watch david allen wright at 3B

]]> By: jessep http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173256 jessep Wed, 17 Aug 2011 17:10:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173256 you’re so ridiculous sometimes.

]]> By: XtreemIcon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173284 XtreemIcon Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:48:15 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173284 If it HAS to be one or the other, I’ll go with Beato. His strand rate is terrible. He needs to start fresh innings. Also, he has a second pitch.

]]> By: jessep http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173240 jessep Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:39:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173240 I don’t like either as the long term solution. Parnell is still pretty raw in my view and Beato seems better suited for middle relief. I know they mentioned maybe pushing him to be a starter but who knows

I still contend that Mejia’s role should be as the Closer for the Future of this franchise.

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173271 Donal Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:21:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173271 Why be married to one or the other? Why do we absolutely have to say “this guy only pitches this inning”? Why save the guy who is supposedly the best pitcher in the pen for the 9th inning, when he is more often than not inconsequential?

]]> By: alex68 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173263 alex68 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:16:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173263 lmao!!!!! metsaddict, you want ppl who hate each other.. well, i guess then that’ll be everyone against donal or jesseP!!!

]]> By: alex68 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173261 alex68 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:15:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173261 i wish you would’ve come to the game with me, so you could tell me stuff like that to my face you know, kinda let loose all the insults at once in my face.. that’ll be the right thing to do, but since you chose not to come, i will always see you as what you truly are.. i won’t say the words because i will get banned, but let’s just say it rhymes with spare middle chair..

]]> By: metsaddict77 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173260 metsaddict77 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:13:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173260 neither, they both suck.

]]> By: alex68 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173253 alex68 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:08:21 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173253 for next debate of the article made up by mr north jersey and written by someone else, i propose Metsie Vs donal… i mean, talk about debating!! that is a debate i will be looking forward to see in the idea article made by MR NORTH JERSEY!!!

]]> By: alex68 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173246 alex68 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:01:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173246 is like asking yourself from which trash can i like my food, from the one on the left or the right?? ugh…

]]> By: any http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173243 any Wed, 17 Aug 2011 15:49:36 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173243 My guess is that neither guy is closing next year. Could be a vet (nathan) type ,or someone totally unexpected.

]]> By: NJstuckinTX http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/looking-toward-2012-parnell-or-beato-for-closer.html#comment-173236 NJstuckinTX Wed, 17 Aug 2011 15:27:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=57711#comment-173236 Wasn’t there talk of stretching out Beato during the winter to see how he’d do as a SP? Which if that is the case, it’s really Parnell or bust at this point.

I still get the impression that Alderson will go after Nathan or someone similar to be the closer for 2012. In all likelihood, Nathan will be offered Arb, so no worries on losing draft picks and an incentive laden deal would be right up his alley.

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