Comments on: Let’s Face It, Mike Pelfrey Has Maxed Out As A New York Met http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html Thu, 23 May 2013 08:59:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171627 jdon Tue, 09 Aug 2011 16:48:13 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171627 true ….. there is not much out there/

]]> By: The Coop http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171529 The Coop Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:12:53 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171529 Few things and a disclaimer…I am a Mike Pelfrey homer (I just want to see the kid do well and succeed), but I am realistic and can attend to his limitations as well. First – he was thrust into the “ace” role which, let’s be realistic, wasn’t much to go by for Terry Collins since his “true” ace (Johan) was a longshot to pitch in 2011 and Pelf got it by default for this season b/c – who was going to be the #1 starter – Dickey? so I think a lot of what our expectations are for Big Pelf are what Collins may have inadvertently set when he announced Pelfrey as the opening day starter. Next is that I can even agree he’s not “ace” material – specifically when he’s a starter for an NL East and has abysmal stats against the very teams he needs to beat, the NL East especially on the road. Next is his swoon especially something like last night – my friend Joe Janish from Mets Today employed a sports kinesiologist (I don’t think I spelled that right) who talked to a flaw in Johan Santana’s mechanics which may have contributed to his shoulder wear and tear and subsequent injury…then pointed out that Pelfrey has also lost some velocity and has a similar mechanical flaw. Pitching coaches (outside of Rick Peterson) don’t pick up on that, and just try to get them to throw “better” essentially. So Pelfrey *could* in fact be damaged. That’s not to say all is lost — he’s got value, as others have pointed out, but I feel like he could be a trade bait for a smaller market team. I want Pelfrey to succeed, even if he would fare better not in NY, I’d still support him (as long as he wasn’t facing the Mets, then all bets are off)

]]> By: Alan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171523 Alan Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:51:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171523 I too think that Mike Pelfrey should be traded. He just doesn’t have the mental toughness that is needed. As far as giving up leads…..it really is a bogus idea. When a starter who has good stuff cruises through a lineup twice and then all of a sudden can’t get out a high school hitter…there is something wrong. Winning games when a atarter gives up 4 runs in one inning requires having a good offensive team that can keep scoring runs because the starter is more than likely to continue getting knocked around!

Sayonara Mike

]]> By: NJstuckinTX http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171522 NJstuckinTX Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:51:48 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171522 He has value to someone, so you can’t just non-tender him. He’s not yet 30. I mean, hell, Millwood got play from teams even now, so someone would trade for Pelfrey.

And I don’t see much in the FA pool at all, unless you want to pay some $$ for the FA to be from the Rangers (can’t remember his name). Or even Cap, who I’m sure is going to see a nice raise from whichever team pays for his services.

]]> By: NJstuckinTX http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171521 NJstuckinTX Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:48:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171521 I dunno. Even with his bloated contract (estimated at 6 Mil post-arb), he still has value, just not a whole lot. But as you said, there isn’t really much to fill his spot with, FA-wise. I think Alderson has to kick the tires and turn over rocks to see what takers would offer for him and if he isn’t getting back what he wants, we’ll see Big Poof back in the starting rotation.

And Pelfrey is much closer to a 5 in the rotation than an ace, for sure.

]]> By: Nester http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171517 Nester Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:42:50 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171517 I’d rather pay Capuano $3 million than Pelfrey $8 million anyday. If we can get something for him fine, if not then non-tender him and lets move on.

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171516 t agee Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:41:20 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171516 If Pelfrey was with another team and non tendered he’d be a guy we would all be looking at and saying, “hey we can get him for nothing, he throws 200 IP every year which helps the pen, never gets hurt, has had periods a few times where he’s pitched real well for 10-15 starts, we could do a lot worse.”

You can’t help but be disappointed with him but to just give him away and then replace him with who knows doesn’t make sense. I’d prefer to bet on his walk year, see what he could nab at the deadline or return in the draft if we kept him all year.

We cannot continue to sell low with every asset. There’s a great chance that he won’t be any better than this year but if he were to put together 20 good starts could get us another potential piece of the puzzle.

That would depend on what else is potentially available of course and at what cost in terms of prospects and what not but barring anything really worthwhile that will be here for 3-4 years and I’d just as soon keep him and see what you get on the field.

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171514 jdon Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:34:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171514 I actually would not offer arbitration to him. I cannot stand seeing mediocrity overpaid. If he is going to get 6 million for this year then we are wasting out time, unless our “experts” actually see an upside. They can get a cheaper version of Pelfrey. Or a better version for the 6 mill.

]]> By: vinnie papandrea http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171512 vinnie papandrea Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:28:00 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171512 I agree they are both the same, all the talent in the world and mental toughness of 5 year old girl. Dillon Gee has 1/4 the talent but at least he has a heart

]]> By: alex68 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171511 alex68 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:27:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171511 i remember this guy had like 4 wins in 2009, and someone here posted an article about signing him long term…. I’D SAY “LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!” to that!!!!!!!

]]> By: Shamsky http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171510 Shamsky Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:26:30 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171510 Getting rid of him is the easy part, who replaces him that will be better and consistent? Otherwise why get rid of him?

]]> By: MetFan Lou http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171509 MetFan Lou Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:24:29 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171509 Pelfery and Parnell-The Pallbearer boys carrying us to the graveyard!

]]> By: Pete http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/lets-face-it-mike-pelfrey-has-maxed-out-as-a-new-york-met.html#comment-171505 Pete Tue, 09 Aug 2011 13:07:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56958#comment-171505 Instead of a mouthguard, they should get him a pacifier.

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