Comments on: Labor Day Is The Deadline To Decide If Ike Davis Has Surgery http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html Thu, 23 May 2013 00:45:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: srt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-172395 srt Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:34:37 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-172395 If I remember correctly, that wasn’t Thole behind the plate that day.

]]> By: srt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-172394 srt Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:33:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-172394 I didn’t even bother to read this comment due to all caps. What’s up with that anyway?

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-172371 METS62FAN Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:45:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-172371 T, I NEVER SUSPECTED U OF NAIEVITY, I BELIEVE THE DAY 2 DAY PROGNOSIS IS FOR OPPOSING MNGR CONSUMPTION NOT FANS, WHO ACTUALLY DON’T ACCOUNT FOR ALL THAT MUCH WHEN IT COMES TO WINNING STRATEGIC THINKING. IT JUST MAY CAUSE THE OPPOSING MNGR AFTER THAT COL SERIES TO KEEP HIS KEY RH RELIEVER IN THE PEN IN A CRUCIAL SITUATION, IF HE BELIEVES DAVIS’ BOOMING LHH BAT WAS AVAILABLE TO PH CERTAINLY WE FANS AS WELL AS THE NY BEATERS LIKE TO BELIEVE WE DESERVE THE HONEST FACTS; BUT WHY SHOULD WE. DOES IT REALLY MATTER? FANTASY BASEBALL MATTERS ASIDE; THAT’S BY DEFINITION FANTASY, AN OPTION WHEREBY AS EVERYONE’S TOLD THE SAME MISLEADING INFO, ALL’S FAIR. AS SOMEONE UNCONCERNED WITH FANTASY BASEBALL & ONLY ACTUAL MLB BASEBALL, I’M NOT VERSED IN WHAT STRATERGIC IMPACT, IF ANY, THAT PARTICULAR KNOWLEGE EFFECTS; NOR DO I PARTICULARLY WANT MY TEAM’S POWERS IN CHARGE CONSTRAINING MY TEAM’S FLD MNGR’S STRATEGY OPTIONS.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-172370 Metsie Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:44:48 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-172370 Ike’s problem is systematic of why we have the HEALTH CARE crisis we claim to have in this country!

We wonder why the cost of healthcare has gone so high is it because it’s just so expensive to treat people?

OR is it because they do NOT treat people merely tell them to rest and come back in two weeks for MORE TESTING which costs a ton because it requires a 100 Million dollar piece of a equipment and technicians to operate that cutting edge piece of equipment and gets a very high salary because there are too few of them to hire?

Hell they won’t even give you good pain killers until you ask them to. Break a leg they give you Tylenol3 and tell you to ice and keep the leg elevated! 6 Weeks you will be all better and by the way that will be $3000 please for walking into the emergency room and another $2000 for the Xray, Oh and don’t forget the $800 for me taking the time to look at the XRay as well….

One player had a broken bat – He was told to rest!
Another had a serious (apparently) ankle injury – He is still being told to rest 8 weeks later!)
Chris young had the same injury Sanatana has, He rested for an entire season and then three weeks into the CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH re-injured it!

Can someone tell me WHEN the medical sciences decided that NOT TREATING, MERELY TESTING PROGRESS was the best medical course of action?
And if thats the new way of HEALING then why does it cost so much?

Truth is there is very little HEALING going on just a boatload of TESTING!
Which is why we have the medical crisis!

You know if they just healed people instead of testing people’s own ability to heal the price of health care would be affordable and everyone would be able to have it since they wouldn’t have to wait in line for all the people who are merely being tested instead of healed!

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-172368 METS62FAN Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:35:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-172368 NO, T, LIKE THE 86ers OFTEN DID THE PITCHER IS TO BE “THE TRAFFIC COP” CALLING WHO THE BALL BELONGS TO SUCH AS “DAVID’S GOT IT, IKE BACK OFF!”

]]> By: jdon http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-172342 jdon Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:23:46 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-172342 Listen, the Hospital for Special Surgery is one of the best facilites on earth. The football Giants use them, and they have real, serious injuries. It is either the training staff or the way the front office chooses to interpret info. Bone bruises can be tricky though.remember that beltran’s bone bruise in his knee did not go away for a year, and he had surgery (on his own) in the off season. I feel it could be the training staff. How you treat an injury after it is diagnosed has a lot to do with recovery. The people who manage the recovery day to day are the training staff. Ike feels that the boot had something to do with it. Did the doctors put the boot on his foot, or did Ray Ramirez and company? Is Ike wrong in his assumption? We are not medical men. But the fact that the mets have so many problems is suspicious. I used to think that the FO let players decide on their playability and that led to problems. That is not the case with Ike.

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-172335 t agee Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:09:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-172335 It looked like he got spiked by Wright and that caused him to roll over on it. but really 4 months? Questions about 2012?

I don’t how just about every single injury goes from being day to day to affecting more than just one year.

Something is wrong with the diagnosis, Treatment, the players healing ability, rehab, the water, something.

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-172334 t agee Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:02:30 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-172334 That’s right. Pelfrey is supposed to grab someone in order to prevent a collision.

]]> By: NJstuckinTX http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171788 NJstuckinTX Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:23:12 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171788 Fair point.

I’m sure you, like I, am not going to shed a tear when Pelfrey (aka, the Big Poof) has his ship sail out of NY.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171787 METS62FAN Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:18:02 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171787 NJ, I BELIEVE IT’S THE PITCHER’S RESPNSIBILITY ONCE HE CLEARS HIMSELF OUT OF THE WAY, PELF’S BIGGEST MISTAKE WAS TO FIRST CONSIDER FIELDING IT HIMSELF, IT APPEARED THAT ONCE HE THOUGHT BETTER OF THE ATTEMPT HE BECAME FLUMOXED, A FAIRLY REGULAR PELFREY CONDITION CAUSING THROWS BEHIND BASESTEALERS INSTEAD OF IN FRONT OF THEM AS WELL AS STUMBLING OFF THE RUBBER LIKE A VERY NEWBORN GIRAFFE

]]> By: any http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171786 any Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:17:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171786 he had another 200# person step on him and rolled his ankle funny, causing a bone bruise and carltidge damage. bad luck, but it happens. Not like they just bumped into each other in the hallway.

If anything, booting him up so long made the problem worse.

]]> By: any http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171785 any Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:16:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171785 the 3-4 weeks isn’t to see if he comes back this season. That ship has long sailed. Rather, it is to judge progress so they can make the call as to whether rest/rehab/therapy over the winter will be good enough. In 4 weeks, if it isn’t healing noticably, they will make the call on surgery.

The wait is probably good news, since it means they must have seen progress since the last time they looked. If it wasn’t improving, most likely the call would have been to do the procedure now for more healing time.

]]> By: alex68 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171779 alex68 Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:31:14 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171779 can we please see a replay and see how “badly” he injure his ankle???? i mean, really??? wow.. also, hasn’t this org learn anything??? shut him down and prepare him for next season!! if the front office gave up early july on this team, then what’s the point on bringing him back this season? unless they’re thinking fielder or pujols, SHUT HIM DOWN!!

]]> By: Lifelongmetsfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171776 Lifelongmetsfan Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:23:34 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171776 Wait a second . Hold the phone. your telling me that a healthy 6’4 230lb. 24 yr old professional athlete with no hx. of injury may have suffered a career ending injury when he “walked into” another person?? That’s unbelievable. Someone tell me this isn’t true and I am a nut job to even entertain such a thought. PLease!!

]]> By: NJstuckinTX http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171772 NJstuckinTX Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:12:44 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171772 I actually thought it was Thole who should have played quarterback on that play. Be it Thole not stepping up, Pelf just standing around, or Ike not yelling I got it loud enough, it was one crappy play with horrendous results, for sure.

]]> By: NJstuckinTX http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171770 NJstuckinTX Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:09:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171770 Easy on the caps lock holmes. :)

It was more a general comment on how injuries with the Mets always seem to be more severe, last longer and linger more than with other teams. And it’s happened for years now. At some point, you have to look at the overall process to understand why things are as they are. I know injuries happen to all teams, but it seems awfully close to a trend if I’ve ever seen one. Just sayin…

]]> By: Nester http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171769 Nester Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:05:48 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171769 What Brian said is true lifelong, I’ve heard and read several quotes from Alderson and that’s exactly what he said. That why they are avoiding it at all costs. But I think they should go with the surgery if there is a chance it CAN help, otherwise we’re just spinning our wheels and Ike Davis will not be on the field come Opening Day.

]]> By: jessep http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171757 jessep Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:02:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171757 Subject should be “Mets Get Second Opinion On Ike Davis, Will Continue To Rest For 4-5 Months”

I don’t even understand why anybody in the Mets organization is pretending this guy is coming back in 2011. All they keep doing is looking for a way to mess this up. Just let him shut it down and get healthy.

It’s clearly an injury that is much worse than they ever thought…

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171767 METS62FAN Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:52:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171767 NJ, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO COMPARISON BETWEEN PUJOLS’ INJURY & DAVES’ CASE U WERE UNAWARE PUJOLS ISN’T REALLY HEALED; BUT STRAPPED UP WITH ARTIFICIAL REINFOCREMENTS BTW, THE UNCERTAINTY SURROUNDING PHAT ALBERT’S ULTIMATE RECOVERY FAVORS STL’s ATTEMPTS TO RESIGN THE SUPERSTRAR. THE MEDICAL STAFF WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE INJURY CREATION, PELFREY WAS, SO IF U CHOOSE TO BLAME & FIRE ANYONE, HE’S YOUR PRIMARY TARGET, IMO.

I LIVE IN MATTHEWS, NC, A SUBURB OF CHARLOTTE & CAN ATTEST THAT THE MOST RENOWNED ORTHOPEDIC PRACTICE IN THE CAROLINAS IS “ORTHO-CAROLINA” http://www.orthocarolina.com/
AND THE TWO MOST PROMINENT FOOT & ANKLE SURGEONS ARE DRS. ROBERT ANDERSON & W.HODGENS DAVIS. BOTH HAVE WORKED IN THAT CAPACITY EXTENSIVELY WITH THE LOCAL NBA & NFL FRANCHISES ie BOBCATS & PANTHERS. MY WIFE IS A CURRENT DR DAVIS PATIENT & I’M AWARE THAT HIS FORMER MED SCHOOL ROOMMATE IS ONE OF THE LEAD HSS SURGEONS WORKING WITH NYM PLAYERS.
AS I FULLY ANTICIPATE BEING SHUTOUT OF ANY “INSIDER” INFO DUE TO CONFIDENTIALITY & HIPPAA CONSIDERATIONS AS DR. DAVIS IS AWARE OF MY NYM FAN CONNECTION FROM PREVIOUS NONDESRIPT CONVERSATIONS WHICH LEFT ME WITH A DISTINCT IMPRESSION THERE WAS A PREVIOUS DISCONNECT BETWEEN HSS ADVICE & NYM OWNERSHIP & TRAINING STAFF.

FROM MY PERSONAL VANTAGE, I’M SOMEWHAT AMUSED BY THE TWITTERINGS OF THE CHICKEN LITTLES RUNNING ABOUT CONCERNED OVER IKE’S CAREER IMPACTION AS 1B HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN THE BEST SUITED POSITION FOR WALKING WOUNDED TYPES LIKE MANTLE & BENCH. I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IKE’S LONGEVITY WILL BE SEVERELY HAMPERED OR IMPAIRED IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER; BUT THERE IS NO MD AFTER MY SIGNATURE.

]]> By: Lifelongmetsfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/08/labor-day-is-the-deadline-to-decide-if-ike-davis-has-surgery.html#comment-171755 Lifelongmetsfan Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:54:01 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=56730#comment-171755 Is that really true Brian? I thought the bone bruise will heal its;ef over time, it’s just a matter or how long it takes. You mean to tell me that Ike Davis’s career could be over because he “bumped into” another person? Good Lord! That’s hard to handle!

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