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2011
*Updated* Carlos Beltran To Giants?
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UPDATED – July 22nd.
ESPN’s Jayson Stark says two executives believe the Mets will eventually trade Carlos Beltran to the San Francisco Giants for a package including top OF prospect Gary Brown.
Original Post – July 20th
Over the last month or so, the Carlos Beltran rumors have heated up to the max. It has quickly became a “when” Mets deal Carlos Beltran instead of “if”.
Ken Rosenthal reports the Red Sox and Phillies have been the most persistent thus far. That may be true and I’m not discounting that, however I don’t believe Carlos Beltran will be in either uniform come August 31st.
The Red Sox lack that true “blue chip” prospect that Sandy Alderson is apparently coveting. They traded away top prospects such as Casey Kelly (currently tearing it up for the Padres in minors), Reymond Fuentes (Beltran’s cousin), and Anthony Rizzo (recently made MLB debut).
The Phillies have one or two stud prospects. One happens to be a slick hitting RF named Domonic Brown. Brown draws a lot of loose comparisons to Darryl Strawberry due to his long swing and power ability. While I would take Domonic Brown in a heartbeat, I highly doubt the Phillies are willing to deal potential future star in division just to possibly guarantee another championship. But hey you never know…
Since early March I’ve pegged the San Francisco Giants as a perfect fit for Carlos Beltran come the deadline. And this is before Buster Posey got injured. Now with Posey out the Giants lack a big bat to glue together their lineup. Not to mention the gaping hole in RF>
Early this season MMO did a poll to see everyones guesses for 2011 NLCS. I picked Giants and Phillies (mainly because of their pitching). A rematch of 2010 all over again in 2011.
Now imagine this? Start a bidding war for Carlos Beltran between the Giants and Phillies. Both teams know he could put their team over the edge come the playoffs. Now were talking about huge prospect packages in return. Especially if the Mets are willing to eat Beltran’s salary like predicted.
What prospects can we expect from the Giants? Gary Brown (top OF prospect, batting .313/7 HR/56 RBI in Single-A at age 22.) (*also has 39 SB!)…Zack Wheeler? (Top pitching prospect) Both? I doubt we could get both, but one is certainly going to happen if Giants want Beltran.
Oh and as for the Phillies? If they want Beltran, Dom Brown’s name better the first thing out of Ruben Amaro’s mouth when he calls Sandy.
About the Author: Benjamin Yoel
Graduate of St. John's University. Majored in Sports Management. Torn on where career will take me next. Considering Baseball Operations, Scouting, and Journalism. Writer for Metsmerized Online & StLucieToFlushing.com. Devout #Mets fan.
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NL East Standings
| Team | W | L | Pct. | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Braves | 42 | 30 | .583 | - |
| Phillies | 35 | 37 | .486 | 7.0 |
| Nationals | 34 | 36 | .486 | 7.0 |
| Mets | 27 | 40 | .403 | 12.5 |
| Marlins | 22 | 48 | .314 | 19.0 |
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Wow if we get Gary Brown… I have always loved his play… He is a great, great player I think he is destined for great things.
Could be our CF for the next decade.
Single A?????? long,long way to Citi, too much exposure to “bad karma” of our history.
For the hottest power bat on the current market with suitors in such dire need. We should emphasise “close to ready” if not “already reasdy” as our minimum.
The best talent represents the best value, even if you have to wait a couple of years for it.
What would be better? A Brian McCrae who could be here from 2012-2018 or a Jim Edmonds type who you have to wait a couple of years for.
When you think about it impatience is what has cost this team over and over again.
Gary Brown through 2/3rds of the season is lighting it up on both sides of the ball in A+, 213/385/467 24 doubles, 6 triples, 8 HR’s, 57 RBI and 39 SB’s.
One year at AA in 2012 and a half season in AAA and up here in July 2013 if things continue on the way they have so far this year.
I’d rather get the better player and wait a couple of years.
PATON,MARTINEZ,HAVENS,HOLT… T, those are my concerns vis-a-vis karma record of our farm. In a vacuum your process is most meritorious; however, the NYM vacuum is much like outerspace whereby there are asteroids & meteors to avoid.
’62, Especially now that the injury bug has jumped down to the minors we may need three times as many prospects as most teams.
T, I’ve no clue as to why down in the minors; but have always suspected Jeff in the debacle that’s been Flushing’s track record on injury recovery.
I barely recall specifics; but dfinitely recall tone in an interview around Jeff’s promotion to COO in ’02 in which he criticized NYM players as “soft” re. injury claims. Empowering him to heasd the post ’09 “investigation” was, IMO,tantamount to naming the Pope to head up the gay marriage legitimacy panel.
Can there be any wonder as to why injury occurances,diagnostics & treatment programs are still a legitimate concern?
A little more on Gary Brown: He’s the third ranked prospect in the Giants system. He’s speed/defense guy with a solid bat, this is first full season in pro ball and he’s hitting .313/.384/.468 with eight home runs in 91 games. In his minor league career, he’s made only three errors in 101 games in CF. In those 91 games, he’s got 39 SBs, but he’s been caught 14 times. Not a good enough ratio for my liking, but he’ll improve on that in the Mets system with guys like Mookie helping him. He’s got unreal speed, plenty of range and takes good routes to the ball.
He’s the kind of player that was built for Citi Field.
If the Mets had Gary Brown and resign Jose talk about a running team. The Mets could very well be a speedy team.
Picturing him and Brandon Nimmo (if he pans out) in CF and RF respectively could be a look into the possible future
Brown will be in the Majors 4 years or so before Nimmo assuming they both make it but those two guys upside is far higher than any two OFer we have had at the sametime since Straw and the combination of Mookie and Lenny.
That would really be exciting.
I’ll take back Gary Brown from the Giants for Beltran in a heartbeat over the overrated Dominic Brown or Jonathan Singleton of the Phils or Mike Minor or Randall Delgado from the Braves.
You know what else is just crazy enough an idea to be entertained? Packaging Beltran AND Bay and a boatload of his salary there for a bigger return. The Giants currently play Cody Ross and his .260/.348/.415 with 7 home runs there. Maybe the Mets can sell a change of scenery and smaller ballpark for Bay and eat money. Why not Brown, Wheeler and maybe Eric Surkamp?
If we get Brown, would that leave our top prospect Nimmo out in the cold and make him think he should go to college rather than sign with the Mets?
Nope. One thing really has nothing to do with the other. Both can play together. Also Nimmo is so far away from ML it’s not even a concern.
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Dude, i’m a Giants fan but you ain’t gonna get Dominic Brown for 2 months of Beltran. just silly.
Joe, normally, in a vacuum, on paper, you’re totally correct. consider this. Philly was supposed to run away with it due to their overall makeup of normally dominating offense & highly superior rotational pitching capable of lengthy dominance.
Despite all that, with Brown in their lineup they haven’t been able to shake the suprising Braves & their comparative pop-gun offense. The question isn’t what replacing Brown with Beltran can do for that situation, The question at hand is if Atlanta added a significant bat to upgrade that offense with a revived Uggla, a steady McCann & the irregular boost from Freeman + Heyward. putting Beltran & the added hope he’d represent into that Atlanta offense, CAN THE PHILLY’S COUNT ON MAINTAINING THEIR POSITION WITH BROWN IF BELTRAN WERE TO INFUSE MORE EFFECTIVENESS IN THEIR PURSUERS(ATLANTA)?
THAT, JOE IS THE REAL QUESTION PREVENTING BELTRAN FROM HURTING THEM WITH ATLANTA AT NO ADDITIONAL PAYROLL INVESTMENT IS CERTAINLY A SUBSTANTIAL WAY OF INSURING THEIR 160M INVESTMENT IS “COVERED” BY THE ADDITIONAL POSTSEASON ATTENDANCE BOOST. CERTAINLY AMARRO DIDN’T CREATE THE HIGHEST PAID LEAGUE ROTATION FOR A WILDCARD SLOT.
MANY EXPERTS IN PROGNOSTICATION ARE ENVISIONING A REPEAT NLCS FEATURING THE TWO STRONGEST ROTATIONS PHL & YOUR BELOVED GIANTS. WITH SF BEING SANS POSEY AS WELL AS IN ON THE BELTRAN STAKES; CERTAINLY KEEPING HIM ON THE EAST COAST OF DOWNTOWN PHL IS PREFERABLE TO HIS PAYING TOLLS OVER THE BAY BRIDGES. JOE, THERE’S MANY CONVOLUTION SCENERIOS TO CONSIDER THAT GO MUCH FURTHER THAN A TOP YOUNG TALENT FOR AN AGING RENTAL.
BESIDES AS A MET FAN, I’D PREFER A PHL DESTINATION DUE TO BORAS’ WELL EARNED REP FOR NOT KEEPING HIS CLIENTS ON THE LAST ROSTER TO HOUSE HIM SO DEALING CARLOS ANYWHERE; BUT PHL INCREASES HIS POTENTIAL TO SIGN WITH THEM FOR THE NEXT FEW SEASONS!