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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah. That was my history with Beltran.  I wanted to like him, and could have shrugged at him at first.  I was on his side after 2007 though when i saw how determined he was to help the team win.  it wasn&#039;t his fault the rest of them tanked.  Also, I heard him speak at the engagement where I took the picture above.  I never heard more of a passionate speaker, someone who truly loves to play, a team guy, and he really liked Terry collins too!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. That was my history with Beltran.  I wanted to like him, and could have shrugged at him at first.  I was on his side after 2007 though when i saw how determined he was to help the team win.  it wasn&#8217;t his fault the rest of them tanked.  Also, I heard him speak at the engagement where I took the picture above.  I never heard more of a passionate speaker, someone who truly loves to play, a team guy, and he really liked Terry collins too!</p>
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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can sort of understand the animosity...SORT OF.  I thought Beltran was soft myself but looking back, I realize that he was doing what he needed to best help the team, and if that meant sitting out at 85% so he can perform better like 90% the next day, so be it.  I would just get upset that he wouldn&#039;t go on the DL, which I guess you could say is &quot;selfish&quot; technically, since he wanted to play so badly that a 15-day spell would take too much away :).  I wonder though how much that hurt him in the long run with his bad knees.  I wish I had appreciated him for more of his time, but I appreciated him in the nick of time, just a shame he had to end his time here they were in 2005.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can sort of understand the animosity&#8230;SORT OF.  I thought Beltran was soft myself but looking back, I realize that he was doing what he needed to best help the team, and if that meant sitting out at 85% so he can perform better like 90% the next day, so be it.  I would just get upset that he wouldn&#8217;t go on the DL, which I guess you could say is &#8220;selfish&#8221; technically, since he wanted to play so badly that a 15-day spell would take too much away <img src='http://smhttp.18058.nexcesscdn.net/808D60/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  I wonder though how much that hurt him in the long run with his bad knees.  I wish I had appreciated him for more of his time, but I appreciated him in the nick of time, just a shame he had to end his time here they were in 2005.</p>
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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kelly when Ed snapped that photo, it took ALL of the restraint in the world for me not to blurt it out right then and there...but we waited till we got home to give you the proper &quot;surprise.&quot;  Like I said, I spent the last few weeks wondering if I would ever see Beltran playing live in a Mets uniform, when I&#039;ve seen him probably hundreds of times, but didn&#039;t appreciate it at the moment.  Meanwhile you are a his biggest fan and never got to see him play live.  That&#039;s commitment.  Made me appreciate the memories I did have with him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly when Ed snapped that photo, it took ALL of the restraint in the world for me not to blurt it out right then and there&#8230;but we waited till we got home to give you the proper &#8220;surprise.&#8221;  Like I said, I spent the last few weeks wondering if I would ever see Beltran playing live in a Mets uniform, when I&#8217;ve seen him probably hundreds of times, but didn&#8217;t appreciate it at the moment.  Meanwhile you are a his biggest fan and never got to see him play live.  That&#8217;s commitment.  Made me appreciate the memories I did have with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still get upset that I didn&#039;t make it to the game in Arlington. I am very grateful for the picture, it hangs on my wall of Beltran fame. I really did scream and tear up when you first shared the image with me. 

I am literally still dealing with the loss. I haven&#039;t watched a game since the news of the trade. I will though. And although many have asked and wondered - I AM STILL A METS FAN. But I am also A CARLOS BELTRAN FAN, no matter where he goes.

No I haven&#039;t been honored enough to see him play live, and I may never get to see him play in a Mets uniform but I still hope to see him in person one day. Living in Oklahoma with no major league team its hard to get that chance without spending a ton of money and travel time. 

Thank you for always thinking of me when it comes to Carlos Beltran. Thank you for the pictures, thank you for the sign. I am sorry I didn&#039;t make it to the game. You have no idea how sorry I am. Oh gosh, here come the waterworks again.

Love and hugs Coop! ~ from CB15&#039;s biggest fan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still get upset that I didn&#8217;t make it to the game in Arlington. I am very grateful for the picture, it hangs on my wall of Beltran fame. I really did scream and tear up when you first shared the image with me. </p>
<p>I am literally still dealing with the loss. I haven&#8217;t watched a game since the news of the trade. I will though. And although many have asked and wondered &#8211; I AM STILL A METS FAN. But I am also A CARLOS BELTRAN FAN, no matter where he goes.</p>
<p>No I haven&#8217;t been honored enough to see him play live, and I may never get to see him play in a Mets uniform but I still hope to see him in person one day. Living in Oklahoma with no major league team its hard to get that chance without spending a ton of money and travel time. </p>
<p>Thank you for always thinking of me when it comes to Carlos Beltran. Thank you for the pictures, thank you for the sign. I am sorry I didn&#8217;t make it to the game. You have no idea how sorry I am. Oh gosh, here come the waterworks again.</p>
<p>Love and hugs Coop! ~ from CB15&#8242;s biggest fan</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed you fine article, Coop.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed you fine article, Coop.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering what he has given to the Mets, I find it perplexing on a sports level that fans don&#039;t unanimously like or love Carlos Beltran.  He is a great athlete and a humble team player.  Yet we have a few people who, through their use of abundant conjecture, try to belittle our former treasure.

At some point they will again say foolish things about our best position player ever (and I include Darryl in my assessment).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering what he has given to the Mets, I find it perplexing on a sports level that fans don&#8217;t unanimously like or love Carlos Beltran.  He is a great athlete and a humble team player.  Yet we have a few people who, through their use of abundant conjecture, try to belittle our former treasure.</p>
<p>At some point they will again say foolish things about our best position player ever (and I include Darryl in my assessment).</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great read, Coop. I think most people who had issues with Beltran saw them resolved either with time or when they learned more about why some of the stuff happened. Of course, you will always have the should-stay-silent minority but hey

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/Ogre39666/Random%20Shit/Beltran-HatersGonnaHate.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read, Coop. I think most people who had issues with Beltran saw them resolved either with time or when they learned more about why some of the stuff happened. Of course, you will always have the should-stay-silent minority but hey</p>
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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Hodges - this Beltran move has brought out the rawest of emotions, so no need to apologize, just glad you read my stuff.  Thanks for the compliment :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Hodges &#8211; this Beltran move has brought out the rawest of emotions, so no need to apologize, just glad you read my stuff.  Thanks for the compliment <img src='http://smhttp.18058.nexcesscdn.net/808D60/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hodges14</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hodges14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for running on like that on you Coop, no offense intended. I didnt realize I wrote so much until after I clicked the submit button. Thanks for clarifying. I wasnt looking to lay that all on you, but more to that faction of fans that still hold tight to those false rumors that were spread against Beltran. I do always enjoy your posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for running on like that on you Coop, no offense intended. I didnt realize I wrote so much until after I clicked the submit button. Thanks for clarifying. I wasnt looking to lay that all on you, but more to that faction of fans that still hold tight to those false rumors that were spread against Beltran. I do always enjoy your posts.</p>
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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Hodges, I just want to state up front that my feelings on Beltran at first were mine, and mine alone.  I didn&#039;t have to listen to the media to come up with my own biases, which I admit were wrong.  I wasn&#039;t so much in the &quot;Beltran is soft&quot; population as &quot;Beltran is overpaid and who does he think he is - A-Rod?&quot; kind of crowd.  Another thing that pissed me off then was his propensity to sit on the bench when he wasn&#039;t 100%.  I know better now why he did it but at the time, I admit it irked me because it seemed to hurt the team.  Like I said, in 2006, there was an important Braves series and he sat out a game voluntarily b/c he was at 85%.  I grew up in the &#039;80s where guys like Hernandez or HoJo would play with limbs barely attached to beat the Cards.  As you see though, I came around on Beltran and see the err of my ways.  I know people like Pomes will never see that (lol) but looking back with 20/20 hindsight, I have a greater appreciation for Carlos and he will go down as one of my favorite mets of all time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Hodges, I just want to state up front that my feelings on Beltran at first were mine, and mine alone.  I didn&#8217;t have to listen to the media to come up with my own biases, which I admit were wrong.  I wasn&#8217;t so much in the &#8220;Beltran is soft&#8221; population as &#8220;Beltran is overpaid and who does he think he is &#8211; A-Rod?&#8221; kind of crowd.  Another thing that pissed me off then was his propensity to sit on the bench when he wasn&#8217;t 100%.  I know better now why he did it but at the time, I admit it irked me because it seemed to hurt the team.  Like I said, in 2006, there was an important Braves series and he sat out a game voluntarily b/c he was at 85%.  I grew up in the &#8217;80s where guys like Hernandez or HoJo would play with limbs barely attached to beat the Cards.  As you see though, I came around on Beltran and see the err of my ways.  I know people like Pomes will never see that (lol) but looking back with 20/20 hindsight, I have a greater appreciation for Carlos and he will go down as one of my favorite mets of all time.</p>
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		<title>By: The Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are pics with Ronnie and KB...still working on Gary (may happen soon, lol - he&#039;s aware of the Howie photo and thinks it&#039;s a riot)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are pics with Ronnie and KB&#8230;still working on Gary (may happen soon, lol &#8211; he&#8217;s aware of the Howie photo and thinks it&#8217;s a riot)</p>
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		<title>By: Hodges14</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hodges14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Big Beltran fan and I loved your post except for your beginning where I feel you might of fell under the media trance who first suggested Beltran was soft and selfish and still today many Mets fans under that spell. 

Beltran played in 151 games in 2005, missing only 11 games all year and six of those games missed was because of his near career ending collision with Mike Cameron. 157 games played in 2010 was well above the average for outfielders in the NL. He had 650 plate appearances but was treated as though it was more like 300.

Omar Minaya and everyone else knew there was already a developing issue with arthritis in one of his knees but signed him anyway. Yet the player gets blamed and targeted for simply agreeing to the contract he was offered.

That entire 2005 the hate brigade was formed by the faction who saw Beltran as the centerpiece to what would be known as Los Mets, the media crucified him and more haters jumped on the bandwagon.

Because of that knee and his collision plus the stress of that big contract and playing in New York his first season was less than stellar. He batted .266, one point lower than he did in 2004 his walk year, but got blasted anyway.

Meanwhile Jason Bay enjoys the sympathy and adoration of Mets Nation for two lousy years of production getting paid the same annual salary Beltran got in 2005. Go figure. Bay isn&#039;t the focus of hate-infused talk shows ever day like Beltran was.

Bays concussion was deemed to be more sympathetic than Beltran&#039;s concussion who was back to work in a week.

Beltran had 20 doubles in first half and was on pace for 40 2B and 22 HR at Shea Stadium which was unforgiving to line drive power hitters like Beltran so his homeruns dipped and his doubles spiked. It was hardly a terrible season in that department. After he came back from the collision he only hit 3 homeruns and 7 double the rest of the season. He wasn&#039;t afforded the excuse bay got that he was coming back from a serious head trauma. 

From Mets.com:

Beltran eventually left the field under his own power, but he was escorted. At one point, he was seated on a table in the trainers&#039; room, leaning back against the wall, occasionally shaking his head. Beltran later acknowledged he had little memory of the episode or its immediate aftermath. &quot;After a collision like that,&quot; he said, &quot;I feel lucky.&quot; He later said, &quot;I&#039;m dizzy,&quot; as he walked slowly across the clubhouse. 

Classic symptoms of a concussion is loss of memory, dizziness, loss of balance, but the crack medical team announced Beltran would be back in two days while Cameron was out for the season. When Beltran didn&#039;t come back until six days, he was greeted by boos and more hate in the media for being soft.

Fast forward to 2006. Beltran hits a game winning homerun but refused to go out for a curtain call. Of course he did. He was happy for his teammates, but why should he go out and tip his little cap to a stadium full of undeserving, unsympathetic, ill-informed, unappreciative horde of clods? Beltran was visibly upset and on the verge of tears as Franco pleaded with him to go out and acknowledge the fans. How would you feel in his place when you gave it your all, played hurt, produced at the same level as before he was signed, and then get trashed daily for it and booed? If I were him I( would have walked out of the dugout, spit on the ground and gone back to the bench with my teammates. That&#039;s what the fans of New York deserved that day.

Yesterday I never saw Beltran smile and laugh as much as he did in his press conference. The Giants fans are all thrilled to have him and a city has opened their arms for him. He&#039;s finally somewhere where his talents will be appreciated and they don&#039;t treat their stars like bird droppings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Beltran fan and I loved your post except for your beginning where I feel you might of fell under the media trance who first suggested Beltran was soft and selfish and still today many Mets fans under that spell. </p>
<p>Beltran played in 151 games in 2005, missing only 11 games all year and six of those games missed was because of his near career ending collision with Mike Cameron. 157 games played in 2010 was well above the average for outfielders in the NL. He had 650 plate appearances but was treated as though it was more like 300.</p>
<p>Omar Minaya and everyone else knew there was already a developing issue with arthritis in one of his knees but signed him anyway. Yet the player gets blamed and targeted for simply agreeing to the contract he was offered.</p>
<p>That entire 2005 the hate brigade was formed by the faction who saw Beltran as the centerpiece to what would be known as Los Mets, the media crucified him and more haters jumped on the bandwagon.</p>
<p>Because of that knee and his collision plus the stress of that big contract and playing in New York his first season was less than stellar. He batted .266, one point lower than he did in 2004 his walk year, but got blasted anyway.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Jason Bay enjoys the sympathy and adoration of Mets Nation for two lousy years of production getting paid the same annual salary Beltran got in 2005. Go figure. Bay isn&#8217;t the focus of hate-infused talk shows ever day like Beltran was.</p>
<p>Bays concussion was deemed to be more sympathetic than Beltran&#8217;s concussion who was back to work in a week.</p>
<p>Beltran had 20 doubles in first half and was on pace for 40 2B and 22 HR at Shea Stadium which was unforgiving to line drive power hitters like Beltran so his homeruns dipped and his doubles spiked. It was hardly a terrible season in that department. After he came back from the collision he only hit 3 homeruns and 7 double the rest of the season. He wasn&#8217;t afforded the excuse bay got that he was coming back from a serious head trauma. </p>
<p>From Mets.com:</p>
<p>Beltran eventually left the field under his own power, but he was escorted. At one point, he was seated on a table in the trainers&#8217; room, leaning back against the wall, occasionally shaking his head. Beltran later acknowledged he had little memory of the episode or its immediate aftermath. &#8220;After a collision like that,&#8221; he said, &#8220;I feel lucky.&#8221; He later said, &#8220;I&#8217;m dizzy,&#8221; as he walked slowly across the clubhouse. </p>
<p>Classic symptoms of a concussion is loss of memory, dizziness, loss of balance, but the crack medical team announced Beltran would be back in two days while Cameron was out for the season. When Beltran didn&#8217;t come back until six days, he was greeted by boos and more hate in the media for being soft.</p>
<p>Fast forward to 2006. Beltran hits a game winning homerun but refused to go out for a curtain call. Of course he did. He was happy for his teammates, but why should he go out and tip his little cap to a stadium full of undeserving, unsympathetic, ill-informed, unappreciative horde of clods? Beltran was visibly upset and on the verge of tears as Franco pleaded with him to go out and acknowledge the fans. How would you feel in his place when you gave it your all, played hurt, produced at the same level as before he was signed, and then get trashed daily for it and booed? If I were him I( would have walked out of the dugout, spit on the ground and gone back to the bench with my teammates. That&#8217;s what the fans of New York deserved that day.</p>
<p>Yesterday I never saw Beltran smile and laugh as much as he did in his press conference. The Giants fans are all thrilled to have him and a city has opened their arms for him. He&#8217;s finally somewhere where his talents will be appreciated and they don&#8217;t treat their stars like bird droppings.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[:-) LoL, so I seen the pic of Joey Beartran with Keith Hernandez and i see here he is with Howie Rose. Is there a pic of him with Darling, Cohen or Burkhardt that I may have missed? :-)]]></description>
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