20
2011
Stop The Insanity! Domonic Brown For Beltran Is Pure Fantasy!
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Once upon a time, in a land where Oreo Cookies grow on trees, and it always rained Skittles upon the land, the Mets acquired uber-prospect Domonic Brown from the Phillies from whence the Hershey River flowed. In return for their wonderful haul, the Mets happily exchanged their 34-year old right fielder with two bad knees, who adoring fans lovingly referred to as Tron.
Mets general manager, Sandy Alderson, was so overjoyed at completing such a fantastical deal for one of the top four prospects in the entire country, that he couldn’t contain his exuberance. He immediately thanked his good friends from the City of Brotherly Love and after they hugged and shook hands on the deal, the two GMs danced and frolicked together. Then hand in hand, they went down to the village square where they delighted in a delicious lunch of fine English tea and homemade raspberry crumpets with gooseberry jam.
It’s hard to believe that some Mets fans are actually buying into that hogwash…
I thought we were supposed to be the smartest baseball fans in the game? Did some of us loose a few screws in the last 24 hours?
Who in their right mind would actually believe that the Philadelphia Phillies would give up their number one prospect and 4th best prospect in baseball, Domonic Brown, in exchange for a two month rental with bad knees? Have you literally gone insane?
I’ve heard of speculation and hypothetical trades before, but this is worse than anything I have ever heard from the wacky callers on WFAN.
Why in the world would Philadelphia even consider such a preposterous idea???
Especially when they know that that they wont get ANY compensation draft picks after the season when Beltran becomes a free agent!
Now come on people, let’s get real here…
The fact that so many Met fans jumped all over this simply because Jon Heyman wondered if Sandy Alderson would bring up Domonic Brown’s name, is very laughable to me. But it wouldn’t be the first time a sports journalist would send Mets fans into a frenzy.
Just because the Mets might be dumb enough to trade Beltran to a division rival, don’t assume the Phillies are just as dumb or actually dumber to give the Mets a young, core/franchise-type player for the next decade in return! Just get that notion out of your heads.
And by the way, the Mets are in no position to make demands. All they want is something… anything… for Beltran.
Oh, and I’m not buying the reports that the Wilpons are going to eat all 100% of the remaining salary on Beltran’s contract to get a better return. No way, no how, that happens. Give me a quote from Fred.
One thing is true and it has been even before the season started…
Beltran will get traded, and you can take that to the bank.
But if you think you’re getting any player featured among Baseball America Top 5 Prospects or Top 50 Prospects, I got a bridge to sell you in Citi Field.
About the Author: Joe DeCaro
I'm a lifelong Mets fan who loves writing and talking about the Amazins' 24/7. From the Miracle in 1969 to the magic of 1986, and even the near misses in '73 and '00, I've experienced it all - the highs and the lows. I started Mets Merized Online in 2005 to feed my addiction. Follow me on Twitter @metsmerized.
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If you sell me the Shea Bridge I will put a toll on it to pay the cost of resigning Reyes. Once that debt is paid I promise to remove the toll, scout’s honor.
Unlike the Garden State Parkway which said they would remove the toll once the construction fees were paid off.
Hi Mr. North Jersey –
Frankly I can’t remember one bridge here in the Northeast where tolls were removed – is there a law? or just greedy DOTs.?
Because some people need to get a life. Why else would anyone sit around speculating and, worse yet, writing about ridiculous trades. what will be, will be and all this nonsense about where Carlos is going is upsetting a lot of fans who care about the “two month rental with bad kness”.
You hit the nail on the head. Until he is actually traded, there is very little point in speculating for whom. I’m sure nobody has guessed right yet, so let’s just wait a few days, see where he goes, and who they get in return, and then we can argue about it, and analyze the crap out of every last detail. Meantime, is there a baseball game tonite?
It’s the internet. that’s what people do there.
Actually the game is today and we’re losing. Has everyone forgotten 2007 and 2008 when the Mets had as big a lead as Atlanta does now, and blew it with a great team.
I say keep Beltran un less we get blown away (Brown).
Yes and while we’re at it we should trade Chris Capuano to the Nats for Steve Strasburg, and Izzy to the Braves for Tommy Hanson.
The couple of weeks leading up to the trading deadline have always been rumor after rumor after speculation after ‘insider’ information after…..well, you get the point.
With the advent of advance technology it’s even more crazier. Each reporting on this are just trying to get something out there different from what their counterparts are reporting. If Pujols made an off handed comment about liking the beach, next thing you know we would be reading about how his preference would be to sign in the off season with a coastal team.
I get a kick out of reading all these rumors but come on, you’ve got to take many with a grain of salt.
This!
Alderson is out of his mind and the 20 year hiatus from being a gm has left his brain barren if he thinks he can get Brown for Beltran. Maybe he’ll get a cheese steak from Pat’s Steaks.
How do you know what Sandy thinks?
Alex told him.
Agreed Joe D., and another similarly insane rumor is that Atlanta would surrender Mike Minor for Beltran. I believe that rumor may have come from Peter Gammons, but I’m not 100% on that. Of course that makes slightly more sense than them giving us Teheran, but Minor is a legit top of the rotation type in his own right so I don’t see them giving him up for a 2 month rental. Especially when that rental won’t bring them back draft picks next June.
I also heartily agree that the Phillies would have to be absolutely desperate to deal Brown for Beltran when they have the best record in MLB. The only way I see them getting that desperate is if Howard or Utley suffer a season ending injury and the Braves catch them in the next 10 days, then, maybe they get desperate. Obviously “Silly Season” has begun in MLB! LOL
Again, to steal a page from Tagee, that is why it is good to have a deep farm.
If you have “top of the rotation” prospects to spare, and you are short a big bat, then hell yeah you can overpay when you see a WS shot staring you in the facee.
ANd winning the WS is the goal, not being annointed as having the top farm system!
And Philly? I live in the Philly market, and trust me, the fans (and the FO) don’t trust they have enough offense to go all the way (just like last year).
Maybe I’m wrong, and if I am I’d gladly take Dominic Brown for Beltran. Citi Field is a terrible hitters park overall, but LH hitters seem to do OK there (Ike Davis & Carlos Beltran have done just fine there) so Brown would give the Mets another LH power hitter, with some speed.
Just looking at this objectively I’d say giving up Brown for 2 months of Beltran doesn’t make much sense long term since you can’t get any picks in next years draft to compensate. However, a team like the Phillies can’t really afford to look down the road when they’re trying to win the WS NOW. Also, losing a title with Brown in RF as opposed to Beltran will lead to a lot of finger pointing from the press and public and I’m sure calls for Amaro to be fired! (LOL) So, looking at it from the other side of the proverbial “tracks” I could understand why a team like the Phillies might cave in and give up a player like Brown. The trick for the Mets is to get enough interest generated to drive the price up that far, something that shouldn’t be hard to do at all.
Brown may or may not be possible.
But, someone asked for the reason he would be discussed.
the reason is, the Phils are old, and want to capitalize on this years rotation while it holds together. And they are short on offense, which is what kept them from the WS last year.
And Beltran is far and away the best bat readily available, and could easily be a difference maker for a few teams.
Looking at him as the difference between a quick playoff exit and another WS title is the reason a team will give up something that to most people seems like “too much”.
If Brown gets shut down in the playoffs and the offense can’t score enough to get to the series, there will be a whole lot of finger pointing going on.
I look at it this way. If you are sitting next to a water fountain, and I offer you a 1/2 gallon jug of water for $20, you think I’m nuts. But if you are dying of thirst, it is a bargain.
That, and if your system has 1 Matt Harvey, you aren’t trading him. But if you have 10 of them, then go ahead and trade one to fill a bigger need, since you got plenty of spares!
What about Mayberry? I would take him!
it isnt dumb at all to trade beltran to a division rival, its the opposite.
the mets are not making the playoffs. and beltran will be a free agent so the division rival only loses him anyways. its a long term negative to get beltran, a short term positive, but the mets dont care abot that because they are out of the hunt in the short term.
please try to think before speaking.
I agree that the Mets are clearly not going to get Brown for Beltran.
But I disagree that the Mets are willing to take “something . . . anything” for Beltran. I don’t think it’s worth trading Beltran for “organizational depth” minor leaguers who have little chance of contributing to the big-league team at any point. Alderson is right to think that he can get 1-2 real prospects for Beltran, even if he can’t get a “top prospect” on the order of Domonic Brown.
The Mets are not so desperate financially that they are willing to let Beltran go just for salary relief. And frankly, whether he is just a “rental player” or not (don’t forget, *somebody* will sign him for 2012, and why not the team that acquires himn?), there clearly are teams that would love to have him for the stretch run plus the postseason. There’s a market for him, just not a top-prospect market.
correct, the mets are not going to take “somethng…anything”, thats just more poor analysis from joe. the mets have lots of teams wanting beltran, and are in position to get a decent return.
Unless Omar Minaya or Steve Phillips is running the Phillies, they are not trading their best prospect for a 2 month rental no matter what. We are talking about the class of the NL East niot the sludge which is what we currently are. The Nationals and marlins have more hope and promise than we do, especially after Alderson is done selling off every comodoity we have. 1977 here we come.
Joe, great piece. I was laughing out loud at your fantasy opening. I agree that the Mets’ getting a prospect like Brown is a big stretch but thank goodness TRON has played well enough for us to get ANYTHING back. Frankly, I hope they target a live young arm because Pelfrey’s days are numbered and they could trade Cappy before the deadline, too. They can always sign a bat (hopefully one that isn’t a dud like Jason Bay) in free agency when the budget rebounds, but you have to stockpile young, affordable arms whenever you can. Had the Yankees been doing that the last couple of years, they wouldn’t be fantasizing about winning another title.
Have the Mets EVER traded FOR a top prospect like that? Not that I know of. They sure have given away many. In a real world — where the Mets lead the league in bad moves — we’ll end up with a double A pitcher who throws 88 mph and a scrub backup outfielder. History will repeat itself. Again.
Cone for Jeff Kent and Ryan Thompson
You mean the Jeff Kent who’s going nto the Hall of Fame?
not because he was a met.. and i don’t think he should go to the HOF..
I don’t know if Kent is a HOF’er, its not a no brainer but being the all-time leader in HR at his position is a pretty nice thing to put on a resume. That along with an MVP, 4 Silver Slugger Awards… I mean Ryne Sandberg’s entry into the HOF leaves me thinking Kent has to be in
Piazza is going in because he hit the most home runs of any catcher.
sandberg was MVP, basically carry an entire franchise under his shoulder, as of kent ecame really good after having bonds and bagwell between his ears.. please don’t compare the 2.. kent was a good player, sandberg was THE MAN in a city, kent was a good complementary player for teams who were carry by other stars, sandberg was the star, also, imo kent became really good after going to the west coast, were steroids were like drinking soda.. makes you wonder.. 5 time all star, 1 MVP
Sandberf HOF!!
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If you think D. Brown is a fantasy wait until you hear the one about Josh Reddick! The balance of power in the NL East may hinge on where Beltran goes — if you ask me Alderson’s strategy is pure genius in trying to entice the Phillies and Braves into a bidding war … anything can happen in a world where the worst possible thing that could happen to the Phillies or Braves is watching Carlos go to the other team. Now they’re talking Mike Minor and … even (LOL!) Julio Teheran, which I have to say I think is actually crazier than D. Brown. The thing about Brown is that for all his hype he really hasn’t shown he can stick in the majors yet. He hasn’t hit much and the phans in Philly actually got on him a couple of weeks ago for not running hard. Charlie even had to have a talk with him (!!) Now what I’ve read about Brown is that he’s not that sort of kid at all — he’s known as having a great head on his shoulders and being a really hard worker (he admitted to “spacing out” on the play in question), even so I don’t think D. Brown is a fantasy — not when you are looking at acquiring the best doubles machine in the league right now outside of Adrian.
Well, if this PHL speculation IS “WHOLE CLOTH” none of their other touted talents are very exciting. Among them;
JAMES COSART RH-SP,ADV-A
JESSE BIDDLE LH-SP, REG-A
BRODY COLVIN RH-SP,ADV-A
TREVOR MAY RH-SP,ADV-A
Two names from BOSOX org that intrigue me are RYAN LAVARNAWAY,C, AAA and MICHAEL BOWDEN, CL,AAA
I’d love to get another opinion from one of u MiLB ‘experts’
I would presume Philadelphia’s top 3 prospects are BROWN,BASTARDO & MAYBERRY and after they have created pkgs of prospects to net both Lee & Halladay over the recent years while getting a pkg back from Seattle for Lee last yr, their cupboard is somewhat lean without those 3 stalwarts of which I’d think Alderson is in a position to proffer an” at least 1 of them” take it or leave it with enough cash to contain them under the Luxury line. Since, Alderson is under nowhere as much pressure to deal as they are with ATL breathing down their necks.
I personally believe there’s likely a ton of pressure on Amarro to recoup a more significant amouunt of thae nosebleed level payroll he convinced ownership to outlay through extended postseason attendance booty.
Getting the Wilpons to pony up is not as farfetched as JoeD assumes, inasnuch, as I’m confident Alderson negotiated a lot of freedom before finally accepting their job offer. There’s still a considerable amount of proposed investment $$$ unaccounted for from Einhorn or whomever. One thing, I’m certain Fred would avoid at all cost would be an unhappy Alderson returning to Selig’s office with tales of Wilpon deceit.