Comments on: Should Mets Attempt To Re-Sign Carlos Beltran During Offseason?

By: Derek C.

Derek C. — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:06:58 +0000

I say no unless you could find a way to unload Jason Bay. But we know that is nearly impossible.

By: OrignialMetfan

OrignialMetfan — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:20:13 +0000

People keep claiming that holding onto this guy is a bad thing because you get nothing back of value. My contention is that his value is greater than anything they’ll ever get back for him, plus his absence creates lineup and defensive holes they can’t fix with one player, not effectively in the time in which most who want to trade him think is relevant. If you don’t get either a near-term ML player plus a secondary prospect, you must fill right field or the other OF spots with a proven commodity even if you want to give Buffalo players who are brought up in September a chance to document their worth. We know what Beltran brings. The cost of development and using various players to deliver what he does can’t be measured by his contract cost alone, because the team isn’t looking to value his loss now by compensation that will return immediate results. So, if you lose immediate results, you don’t get future value, you have no chance to resign a certain commodity, you get nothing for this expiring contract.

There ought to be a way to calculate this investment as a commercial property than an old home you are trying to move in a saturated, down market. You don’t trade this guy wihtout getting value back for him, because you will never get back in return what he gives you, period.

By: William H.

William H. — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:27:58 +0000

Bringing back Beltran is a good idea when you consider the altrnatives, He shoulg get no more than 8-9 million annually and no more than 2 years. I hope it happens.

By: Pat

Pat — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:43:00 +0000

Well Jim, keeping in mind that Boras is his agent, if he wants to be a Met he’s going to have to meet them half way and take a pay cut. Maybe 2yrs 20-26mil with an option. But they will probably offer him something like 1yr 5mil plus incentives. I hope the money doesn’t matter to him.

By: Mets Faithful

Mets Faithful — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 03:38:20 +0000

I say yes. Lets not forget that it will not cost the Mets a draft pick to get him so that clause may end up working in their favor.

By: francis

francis — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:53:05 +0000

no way.

By: martin

martin — Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:51:21 +0000

reyes should be the priority, but if beltran can be had, very good.

By: Jim Mancari

Jim Mancari — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:59:37 +0000

But how much would you be willing to give him Pat, knowing that we have to pay Reyes?

By: Pat

Pat — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:48:35 +0000

I would say yes. If they fall out and trade him then get something for him now and sign him in the off season. No one is ready to come up and play RF and we know he can handle NY. Its a win-win.

By: t agee

t agee — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:31:06 +0000

The composition of the OF is a consideration too. I don’t believe that Beltran can be an everyday CFer at Citi so we’d have to have to carry two guys who can. Pagan and Pridie or Nuiwenhauss and Hairston (or someone like him) along with Fern or Duda. I’m sure their are many other configurations possible with off season manuvering but that one would allow for us to have two CFers and Carlos but Pridie could be a minor league career free agent or rule 5 casualty and Niuwenhauss just had surgery and again I just can’t see Carlos being the 2nd string CFer at CitiField. Other parks perhaps with a move to RF at Petco and Citi but not full time here.

I also can’t see Carlos resigning here because of the owners going out of their way to embarrass him, the fans with memories of just one AB, the media, the whole thing and I can’t see him getting less than 2/24.

I could certainly see him winding up across the River though. No compensation due, short fences and competent ownership with a great chance at a ring and plenty of other higher profile professionals in the clubhouse.

Hate to say it but that I could definitely see.

By: any

any — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:06:38 +0000

Ed, looks like great minds think alike, and even post at the same minute!

By: any

any — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:04:39 +0000

Well, a 2 part question really.

part 1 is, do they need a veteran RF on a short term deal, to bridge the gap until (hopefully) a prospect is ready to step in?

that, I think is a definite yes. But, I would not want to go more than 1 year, unless it was a younger guy that would be in his prime.

so part 2 becomes, is Beltran a good fit?

Sure, if he wants to sign for 1 year (or 1 + an option), and he doesn’t get crazy money.

Mostly I think that they need someone established for next year, though it could easily be a platoon type guy, since I don’t expect them to have one of the OF prospects ready to go by opening day.

By: Ed Leyro

Ed Leyro — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:04:12 +0000

The way I think of it is “If not Beltran, then who?” The Mets don’t really have a major league ready outfielder in their minor league system and if they were to trade Beltran in the next few days, the prospects they’d receive might not be ready to play for the Mets on Opening Day 2012. Scott Hairston, Opening Day rightfielder? No, thanks. (But I do like him for the bench.)

If there’s no less expensive, younger option, perhaps the Mets should consider a short, incentive-laden contract for Beltran, at least until Kirk Nieuwenhuis is ready for the majors, which might take longer now that he’s out for the season.

By: Jim Mancari

Jim Mancari — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 21:01:42 +0000

That’s true about the NL. But if an AL club offers himself a chance to play the outfield (especially center) everyday, then those teams would certainly be in the mix.

By: Pete

Pete — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:58:11 +0000

Forget about FMart ever “stepping up”. He’s on the DL for the second time this year. And his production, when he is playing is not very good. Although the chances of resigning Beltran are not very good, it can’t hurt to offer him a two year deal for 8 million a year. Is anyone else going to offer him more? And he absolutely refuses to DH, so he will probably want to stay in the NL.