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2011
Rule 5 Reflection: Pedro Beato
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This off-season there was a lot of excitement around the Rule 5 selections of both Brad Emaus and Pedro Beato.
The excitement on my end came because many written opinions out there seemed to think Emaus was ready to compete for the starting job at 2B. Seeing as the Mets didn’t have a sure thing, what’s not to like about that?
With regards to Pedro Beato, I think we all fell in love with him early on because we saw that he had big league stuff.
Yet, many of the critics of Alderson like to point to the Rule 5 failure of Brad Emaus as though a Rule 5 draft pick is a certainty.
Several years ago when I worked in Minor League Baseball, I was invited to a Minor League affiliate dinner for the Tampa Bay Rays. This was the Winter of 2007, and the Rays were coming off a 66 win season but poised to make a legitimate run at the big bad AL East.
So there I sat, enjoying the open bar after a brief discussion with Joe Maddon at one of the Gaylord Opryland Resort ballrooms in Nashville, who is one of the nicest baseball guys you’ll ever meet.
I got to talking with Mitch Lukevics,Tampa Bay’s Director of Minor League Operations. He is a very strong speaker, and when you look over his resume you know why. From 1989 to 1995, Lukevics was the Director of Minor League Operations for the New York Yankees.
The same Yankees that developed Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Bernie Williams. When you look at Lukevics record with the Yankees and now the Rays, isn’t it clear that the Mets need a Minor League Director like him?
Anyway, I have always been fascinated by the Rule 5 draft and so when I got to ask him a question, I asked him his view of the draft. I can’t quote him because this was several years ago, before I ever wrote a blog. I can tell you that he expressed to me the Rule 5 draft being a gamble, but when it works and you find a big leaguer you’re not only lucky, but you’re good.
I decided to take a look at the Mets Rule 5 Draft history since Frank Cashen took over. It’s not pretty. So when critics of Alderson like getting on him about Brad Emaus, they also tend to ignore Pedro Beato. Since the winter of 1980 (the same time the Wilpon’s bought into the franchise), the Mets have had 7 General Managers.
During that time frame, did you know that the Mets didn’t make a Rule 5 selection until 1989 when they drafted Brent Knackert from the White Sox? Here’s a brief look at the Mets Rule 5 selections since 1980.
Brent Knackert from the Chicago White Sox in 1989.
Doug Simons from the Minnesota Twins in 1990.
Mike Draper from the New York Yankees in 1992.
Charlie Greene from the San Diego Padres in 1993.
Kelly Stinnett from the Cleveland Indians in 1993.
Kevin Lomon from the Atlanta Braves in 1994.
Jim Mann from the Toronto Blue Jays in 1999.
Julio Santana from the San Francisco Giants in 2000.
Frank Brooks from the Pittsburgh Pirates in 2003.
Steven Register from the Colorado Rockies in 2007.
Rocky Cherry from the Baltimore Orioles in 2008.
Darren O’Day from the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim in 2008.
Carlos Monasterios from the Philadelphia Phillies in 2009.
Pedro Beato from the Baltimore Orioles in 2010.
Brad Emaus from the Toronto Blue Jays in 2010.
That is 15 players drafted in the Rule 5 by the Mets since 1980.
Doug Simons appeared in 42 Games for the Mets in 1991, posting a 2-3 record with a 5.19 ERA. He was traded in a minor league swap the following April.
Mike Draper appeared in 29 games in 1993, posting a 1-1 record with a 4.25 ERA. He was released in September of that year.
Charlie Greene had 1 plate appearance for the Mets in 1993.
Kelly Stinnett is a name most fans probably recognize. He was a Met in 1994 and 1995, played in a total of 124 games before he was traded in 1996 for Cory Lidle. Lidle would later be drafted by Arizona in the expansion draft.
Kevin Lomon appeared in 6 games going 0-1 with a 6.75 ERA before the Mets packed his bags for him and sent him back to Atlanta.
Jim Mann appeared in 2 games with a 10.13 ERA before the Mets sent him back to Toronto with an apology note.
Darren O’Day could have been a great Rule 5 pickup, had the Mets not had a lack of pitching depth. O’Day was the odd man out after just 4 games. He would be selected off waivers by Texas, and in 2009 he would appear in 64 Games 2-1 with a 1.94 ERA and in 2010 he appeared in 72 games going 6-2 with a 2.03 ERA. Oops.
Those 7 players plus Beato and Emaus are the only ones to ever appear in a game for the Mets after being taken in the Rule 5 draft. Sure, Brad Emaus may have been a failed attempt, but in terms of Mets history, he falls right into place with everybody else.
As for Pedro Beato, he has appeared in 33 Games, posting a 3.29 ERA and I know many of us expect him to be a fixture within this Mets bullpen for years to come. If Beato appears in just 10 more games, he will have pitched in more games than any Mets Rule 5 selection since Frank Cashen was running things in Flushing.
Alderson and his staff pride themselves on being able to find talent when nobody is looking.
Sure, from this point on every Rule 5 pick they make could be a bust, who knows? However, in just his 1st off-season as Mets General Manager, he proved to all of us that he has the ability to make the Mets a better team by using every method possible.
About the Author: Michael J. Branda
My time with MMO began in July of 2009 when I wrote a Fan Post defending Omar Minaya (before it was cool to do that.) I grew up a Mets fan with the mid 1980's teams. My favorite Met of all-time is (and was) Wally Backman. When it comes to sabermetrics versus old school thinking, I like to think I meet in the middle. I believe thinking of new ways to get answers is helpful, especially when the same way has not produced results. However, I think over-thinking certain situations can get you into trouble. I'm excited for the new regime, because I believe they have pieces in place to focus on several aspects of the Mets organization. I've waited this long for a World Series, waiting a few more years for another chance isn't going to kill me.
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This off-season there was a lot of excitement around the Rule 5 selections of both Brad Emaus and Pedro Beato”
Who was excited other than you and the saber band??
Alderson and his staff pride themselves on being able to find talent when nobody is looking”
lmao, ARE YOU SERIOUS!!?? like who?? blake dewitt???
by the way, i like beato a lot, but it seems he ran out of gas, and guess what, the mets are stuck with him regardless, otherwise they’ll lose him.. another great move by the almighty one, money saving Sandy
So Beato has allowed 2 hits in July, and he’s running out of gas?
well, he didn’t pitch for about 2 weeks, then walked 3 guys in his first game back. So he much be shot.
1.43 whip.. since you scream and yell about krod and how he wasnt good.. ERA on krod is better than beato, and by the way, beato has blown 3 saves.. and i like beato, just saying..
Actually he hasn’t been too bad in save situations. 1 walk, 3 hits. However those 3 hits were a double, triple and HR. Not what you want in the 9th.
It is important to remember though that we got Beato for 50K. We didn’t give up a first round draft choice to get him. He hasn’t tied up 7% of the payroll, he’s tied up about .025% of it which means he actually will help us afford a real difference maker next year or the year after since I’m sure everyone understands we can’t pay 20 M per year to 18 different players right?
K-Rod in a lot more innings had the same WHIP and has been about 85% in closing situations throughout his time with us and Beato has his future in front of him.
Not saying that Beato is ever going to have the career K-Rod has but that for us going forward he makes a lot more sense in the long run.
Alex how come you end every reply that you like Beato? Don’t I like Reyes but you always say I don’t? Funny how that works huh
Lets get a few things straight
A) Beato’s WHIP for the 2011 season is 1.05
B) KRod’s 3.16 ERA with the Mets earned him $11.5mil, Beato’s 3.29 ERA earns him $400,000. Which is a better deal?
I never said Beato is a better pitcher than KRod. I said KRod is getting paid like the best closer in baseball and there are probably 13-15 I could find that are better and all making less money.
find me the better 13 closer than krod right now??!!??? and don’t goive me this year type of crap, when you of all ppl like consistency.. so gimme 13 closers better than krod RIRGHT NOW!!???????
Beato is a 3.32 ERA, 3 blown saves and 43 runners allowed in 41 innings.. including 15 walks and 28 hit allowed.. and no he is not as good as krod, he’s young and maybe he does have a chance, but you’re the first one screaming about not drinking the kool aid or getting sucked into this mets, yet you post an article about a player that your boy money saving sandy got, how convinient!!!
come on jesseP, gimme 13 closers better than krod, longevity, saves, all of that included.. 13.. get me 13 closers please, i am and will be waiting!!!
Alex do you want 13 closers in 2011 better than KRod or do you want 13 closers better than KRod since 2006? See, the problem is… you’re assuming that what KRod has done in the past matters at all. In 2011, I want Kimbrel closing a game instead of KRod. I don’t care what KRod used to be able to do, I care what he is doing.
alex: “find me the better 13 closer than krod right now??!!??? and don’t goive me this year type of crap, when you of all ppl like consistency.. so gimme 13 closers better than krod RIRGHT NOW!!???????”
Right now:
Kimbrel, Wilson, Hanrahan, Bell, Street, Storen, Mariano, Perez, Putz, Walden, Feliz, Farnsworth have all pitched better than KRod on a nightly basis. That’s 12, you could probably throw in Nunez as well. 13.
Being a closer isn’t about getting 3 outs. It’s about not putting the game in jeopardy and then getting 3 outs. He is effective yes, but with the game on the line I don’t want a closer that thinks its cute to put the tying run on base all of the time. And he CERTAINLY isn’t worth 11 or 17.5 million dollars
lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you know what, i will let everyone else laugh at you, i am done for the day!!
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Alex a quick check shows that K-Rod is 61st in ERA of ALL Major League relievers in 2011.
61st!
Paid #2!
Behind a guy who’s career success rate is about 95%!
While his is 85%!
61st out of 140!
K-Rod is right now in the 40th percentile of major league relief pitchers in all roles.
From closers to set up, to crossovers, ROOGY’s, LOOGY’s, long men, spot starters, mop up men and any other predetermined role out there.
The non SABR numbers spell it out.
61st!
so agee, wright’s BA this year is ranked 45th of possible 64 3rd baseman this year, all MMO drools about this choker, now, my question to you is, is david allen wright the 45th best 3rd baseman in the game???
Drafting the highest potential talent every June, Signing two top IFA prospects and 20 or so middle to low end guys, Rule 5, non tenders, plan B FA, selected career minor league free agents to build up depth at an area of need, some trades for other teams minor leaguers. These are all way to build a well conceived team with both top talent and depth in case of injury. Then, and only then, it may make sense to sign a front line ace starting pitcher (or even two) or make a Johan Santana type trade.
Don’t remind me of what could have been with Darren O Day x_x
man, that was the ultimate Omar mis-management of the roster move. Losing a guy that was showing stuff, just to call up a stiff for 1 start (who after that was put on waivers). So basically, lose 2 guys for 1 spot start.
Right. And for a team that every year has so many “holes to fill.”
Inexcusable.
Darren O’Day….ugh. Talk about dropping the ball. To think he was replaced by that scrub Nelon Figueroa, who was then sent down not long after.
Nelson*, but then again, it doesn’t matter what his name is.
jesseP hates the mets and certain player in particular, saying storen in better than krod or putz just proved my point.. you know, you are the biggest front runner i have ever seen, is amazing how joe d allows you to write articles here, you probably will say that izzy who became the mets closer for 1 week is also better than krod.. jesus, you are amazing bro.. while ppl who know baseball and actually love the mets are getting banned, YOU are allowed to post crap and room free in this blog, you obviously hate some mets players and like the ones monay saving sandy got, just for the sake of being different, your arrogance only takes you to certain places bro, stop lying to us and tell us you’re a mets fan when is obvious you are not, kimbrel is a rookie and is having a good season, guess what, soria did the same for the royals.. and where is he on your list, you’re nothing but a hideout braves fan, you drool about their players and org as if they’re the cancer curators or something, how about your mets players for a chnge huh?? you’re telling ppl that hanrahan is better than krod ?? based on what!!!?? YOU SHOULD GET BANNED for being a front runner who disguise yourself as a mets fan..
People get banned for breaking the rules, like calling people names that have different opinions. Having lucid arguments, even if they don’t agree with you is not a reason to get banned.
You wrote “you obviously hate some mets players” So it’s ok for you to spew hatred of the players on your list, yet you say this about jessep. Hmmmmmm
By the way, since KROD and his BAD contract was unloaded the Mets have not needed a closer…..
3 games lost and 1 won.. also, i spew exactly what? the truth??!!?? he should be banned here more than anyone else, he offends ppl and belittle them, calls ppl stupid and uneducated.. yet he doesn’t get banned, but send email of complain..t..s for other to get banned..
Sit down before you fall down please
i forgot.. i don’t want you wrtiting an email to get me banned like you did with me last time and bayonne..
I didn’t get you banned and I certainly didn’t get Bayonne banned.
Enough is enough. Rather than worry about the people you offend as the cause for your suspension, perhaps looking at your own actions would give you a better answer as to why you were not allowed here for an entire year?
wow there’s a lot in there alex
“jesseP hates the mets and certain player in particular, saying storen in better than krod or putz just proved my point”
Storen: 48.1 IP, 34H, 12BB, 38K, 5-2, 25 SV, 3 HLD, 3 BLSV, 0.95 WHIP, 2.42 ERA
KRod: 44.2 IP, 45H, 17BB, 49K, 3-2, 23 SV, 1 HLD, 3 BLSV, 1.39 WHIP, 3.02 ERA
Explain to me which aspect of their 2011 campaigns you feel prove I am wrong when saying Storen is a better closer than KRod?
My statement about Putz is defending by my previous statement where I said I don’t want closers putting baserunners on. KRod has allowed 62 runners in 44 innings of work. That is *TERRIBLE*. Putz has put on 35 baserunners in 34 innings. Putz is making $4m to KRod’s $11mil. I’ll take Putz’s 4mil performance over KRod’s 11 mil.
“is amazing how joe d allows you to write articles here” — I get a lot of comments on my blogs, thank you by the way
“you’re nothing but a hideout braves fan, you drool about their players and org as if they’re the cancer curators or something” Why because their organization continues to develop young talented players? Because I acknowledge talent and am not a homer?
“how about your mets players for a chnge huh??” — Kind of funny that you’re accusing me of not praising Mets players… on a blog that was written about giving praise to a Mets player.
“you’re telling ppl that hanrahan is better than krod ?? based on what!!!??”
Based on this?
KRod: 44.2 IP, 45H, 17BB, 49K, 3-2, 23 SV, 1 HLD, 3 BLSV, 1.39 WHIP, 3.02 ERA
Hanrahan: 42.2 IP, 30H, 8 BB, 38K, 0-1, 27 SV, 0 HLD, 1 BLSV, 0.89 WHIP, 1.27 ERA
when storen, hanrahan or anyone saves like he has, then pls come talk to me.. even on a shitty mets, and in NY where there’s pressure ALL THE TIME, if don’t believe me go and ask wagner, he saved 83 games in basically 2 seasons. also, this guy never, NEVER made up a wagner excuse as to not pitching when is not a save situation or not, you give him the ball and he pitches..
I can see Beato being a part of team, starter or BP, for a few years cause he has the arm to make it and I believe with regular work and maturity he will develop into maybe the best Rule 5 pick for Mets.