Phillies Are Hot On Carlos Beltran

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• alex68 July 20, 2011 at 10:26 am

  if sandy alderson wants to p**sed off the few followers left he has he would do this trade.. we have seen what the astros and the blue jays got in return for halladay, oswalt and brad lidge.. PURE CRAP!!! so why would mr know it all would be stupid enough to trade them the best CF the mets have had in their history for moe crap from the phillies?? i hope we don’t get that POS brown or anything phillies have to offer
  • jessep July 20, 2011 at 10:37 am

    For starters, Beltran isn’t a CF anymore. So referencing his time at CF is a waste of time.

    Secondly, I dont care where he goes because wherever he goes means that team offered the best possible deal.

    Third, I didn’t know Kyle Drabek was already deemed crap because he’s 23 years old?

    And what makes Dom Brown a “pos”? Having Dom Brown on the Mets would do more for this franchise than 2 months of Carlos Beltran.
    • alex68 July 20, 2011 at 10:44 am

      First of all, i didn’t know you work for scouts america, second of all, what, beltran suddenly forgot how to play CF?? he plays RF on the mets, but on any other team, and i mean, any other team he can play CF, it helps the mets to have a speedy above average guy in pagan who can cover more groung after he does a torero in the OF, last but not least, yeah, because monay saving sandy has given us the idea he’s a great a making trades and getting players back.. did you see his last track record in SAN DIEGO????? i posted it yesterday..
    • Brian July 20, 2011 at 10:49 am

      I’d argue that right now, Beltran is a better center fielder than Angel Pagan, and even Orel Hershiser said Beltran could easily slide back to CF because his ranghe a defense in RF has been that good and among the best in the league. I dont know how true that is but Hershiser is a sharp guy. But just on observation alone, Pagan looks inferior to beltran this season and it’s not even close.
• Brian July 20, 2011 at 10:50 am

  No way do I trade Beltran to the Phillies. Whose to say they wont offer him a 2 year deal and keep him there where he is 90 minutes away from his home? Who is to say this wont comeback and burn us tenfold?
  • any July 20, 2011 at 11:15 am

    he is going to be a FA, so can’t they just offer him the 2 year deal after the season, regardless of what team he gets traded to?
• Satish Ram July 20, 2011 at 11:03 am

  Just saying…

  If we traded him to the Phillies for a respectable prospect and then he resigned with us next year (with arb available), we would end up getting 1-2 more draft picks out of the deal and the Phillies would have been shorted a prospect.

  That being said, I’ll stop dreaming now.
  • alex68 July 20, 2011 at 11:16 am

    satish,
    lol, that was a good joke.. with tTHAT being said, let me remind everyone that mr money saving sandy WILL NOT ADD any more payroll to the mets, he’ll lowball reyes, reyes will walk, his legion of saberfollowers would understand, then he’ll get us jj hardy, and futility will be at its fullest!!
    • any July 20, 2011 at 11:24 am

      what, did Sandy come over to your house and kick your dog or something?

      and do you honestly think they will spend absolutely none of the payroll money coming off the books? Just for the guys I can think of off the top of my head (including Reyes, don’t forget he already makes 11 mill, so his new deal would only add the difference above that), there is at least 65 million of expiring contracts dropping off after this year (included K Rods 17.5mill, or 60ish based on his 2011 salary).

      the committed payroll is probably down to 80mill or so for 2012. Quite possibly less. So I would be shocked if Sandy simply let Reyes go, and filled out the roster with rookies and cheap retreads.
      • alex68 July 20, 2011 at 11:27 am

        any,

        keep drinking the saberkool aid this man is offering. he’s here to save money, he will do that.. or should i say, ALREADY started doing that.. again, he will not add payroll, plus, reyes said it himself, before i signed i wanna also see what are the mets plans for the future, i wanna win.. sandy’s plan is save money first, win comes second.
        • Kay July 20, 2011 at 7:18 pm

          Stop drinking the hateraid and making up things to spew your irrational hate.
    • Donal July 20, 2011 at 12:07 pm

      This JJ Hardy?

      http://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/os_extend_jj_hardy_for_three_years/5606242
• Russell Zanca July 20, 2011 at 11:17 am

  Hell No!!
  • alex68 July 20, 2011 at 11:19 am

    LMAO!!!! russeeeellllll!!!!!
• any July 20, 2011 at 11:18 am

  The big wild card (elephant in the room) is often overlooked. Boras.

  Fine and dandy for the Mets to work out any deal, but if there isn’t something in it for Boras (err, carlos), who’s to say he approves it?

  hopefully the idea of this list is to get pre-approval that he will accept a trade to certain teams, no strings attached.

  At this point, as long as the team is a viable PS contender, hard to see why he wouldn’t OK any deal, without asking for compensation.

  actually, not much he could ask for. no options to guarantee or stuff like that. And it certainly does not seem like he is going to make signing a new deal a condition to do it!
• Original Met Fan July 20, 2011 at 11:32 am

  Only in the 2000′s did baseball fans ven considered trading a star in the division. Rewriting all the rules and traditions of baseball is the latest fad. Such a terrible idea.
  • any July 20, 2011 at 11:49 am

    a pure rental like this is a different story. If anything, it makes your competition worse in the future and you better (if th eprospect back is really good of course).

    In the old days you did not have FA and arbitration compensation either.

    hell, if they are trading the guy, you want the Mets to take back a lesser return just to not help the phils or braves for this year only?
  • Donal July 20, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    You think Babe Ruth was born a Yankee?

    Or Dykstra was born a Phillie?

    Or that the Mets drafted Carter and Hernandez?
• Tomterif July 20, 2011 at 12:02 pm

  Without reading the other comments, my feeling is that if the Mets believe Beltran would re-sign with the Phillies I wouldn’t do it. But if he is just a rental for them, I don’t have a problem with it.
• jdon July 20, 2011 at 12:36 pm

  Beltran can sign with whoever he wants to after this year. All I care about is improving my team.
• Matt July 20, 2011 at 12:56 pm

  Getting the best return for Beltran or whomever the Mets are going to trade should be the only concern. Beltran has been a great Met, minus a few injuries, he deserves to play for a winner and that, obviously, is not happening in Queens. Hate to see the Phillies succeed, but, to be quite honest, if the Mets aren’t going to contend, than I don’t care about which other teams are…I’m just concerned with improving the Mets future. However, considering that this is the 3rd article written on this site already today about a possible destination for Beltran, than I’m not really going to be too interested in the rumors until something happens. Personally, I would like to see him traded to the Pirates because they have the best prospects to give back in return…include one of their pitching prospects and Starling Marte and you have a great return for Beltran.
• Dan July 20, 2011 at 2:32 pm

  I know Alderson has to get the best player in return for Beltran but I’m against sending him to Philly to help them. Ship him to the American league or at least another NL team.
• sarge July 20, 2011 at 3:39 pm

  Wow, what a bad spot for Mets.

  I would hate for him to go to Phillies of all teams because of the rivalry between teams and the fact that we might not win does not take away from fact we will be playing 2 or 3 series against Phillies in Sept and I would love for Mets to knock off Phils and make it harder for them down the stretch and harder on their staff going into playoffs.

  Yanks, as much as I detest them would be ok and Red Sox good so that they can complete the beat down of Yanks who don’t have any pitching, hey maybe they take Pelfrey from us?

  What a choice for SA?
• Josh July 20, 2011 at 4:09 pm

  I’m fine with him going to the Phillies. With their big contracts for Halladay, Lee, Utley and Howard, its unlikely that the Phils resign him. Beltran isn’t the same guy we signed years ago, but I don’t see him taking a “small contract” next year. I don’t think its a move that would bite us in the future, though possibly, its a move that might bite the Phils (if the prospect turns out to be good), and I’m all for anything that the Phils end up regretting.
• Pete July 20, 2011 at 4:34 pm

  It is so dumb. All these blogs arguing about whether Beltran should be traded, or whether he should be traded to the Phillies, or not. The facts are the facts and this is what we know so far: Sandy IS actively “shopping” Tran, Sandy Has submitted a list with Philly on it, so obviously he doesn’t agree with you all that say “you can’t trade him in the division”. You can piss and moan all you want but SA is going to do what SA wants. Not what you all think he should. So to make a major stink about how smart you are, because you know exactly what SA should be doing with Beltran, and the rest of us are a bunch of idiots, is really quite pointless. It has very little to do with talking baseball on any meaningful level, and is more like fantasy land.
  We know Beltran is going, that much is pretty clear. We know he has been given a list of teams that the Mets are discussing a trade with. We know the Mets are willing to eat some salary. But for blogger x to try and tell me that prospect Y is a “pos”, like he knows something about baseball and the rest of us should bow down, kiss his ring, and hang on his every word, I don’t think that guy knows squat. He don’t know Gary Brown, from Domonic Brown, or Emil Brown, for that matter. I for one, am tired of his insulting hogwash, his one-sided analysis, his bigoted opinions, and his stupid statements and idiotic demeanor. I think you all know which “person” I refer to.
• jdon July 20, 2011 at 5:54 pm

  It is one thing to play manager, and GM, I think that is what blogs are basically about. You can even play fan if you want, although I think that waving pom poms on a blog winds up being a case of telling other people what a true fan is or what a bad fan they are. It is kind of like telling people in everyday life how they should think or how they should live. Criticism, and saying you don’t like someone is also a legitimate way to express yourself. Everyone does it. To bash someone relentlessly, though, is pathetic and ridiculous. These people, even the Omars, do not get to this level without displaying some smarts. Does anyone on this blog actually believe they could do a better job than the people in place? Is it possible to dislike EVERYTHING someone does as a GM? This is not just analysis, there are other issues at work here, and I coud care less what they are. I just don;t read them after a while. I personally do not read all the posts here. Sometimes I make comments that are redundant because I have not read every answer before I post. I would recommend that if people are incensed at a blogger that they ignore that blogger. These sites are supposed to provide information and enjoyment. Let the players give us aggravation. Don’t feel that you have to respond to every comment, particularly if you see no value in it.
  • anthony July 20, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Phillies don’t deserve Beltran, he is to good to wear a Philliy uniform.
    If anything they are the chokers, and i am glad they made Hammels black and blue.
    Mr. Beltran is a role model any one can look up too, if anything Carlos please veto trade to Philliy.
    • DannyBoy81 July 20, 2011 at 11:46 pm

      I guess Beltran failing to take the bat off his shoulders in a Game 7, bases loaded situation doesn’t constitute choking?
      • anthony July 21, 2011 at 4:08 am

        You think you can do any thing better.
        Beltran been our ALL STAR player wearing blue and white and always will be.
        We don’t need Philly players.
      • NYMetsfan July 21, 2011 at 7:28 am

        Anyone with an ounce of baseball smarts would say no. Those riding the bandwagon that talk about one about bat for a players entire career would.

        No Beltran in 06, no playoffs.
• Des July 20, 2011 at 7:26 pm

  Let’s flesh out a deal with the Phillies. Domonic Brown and Chase Utley for Carlos Beltran and Ruben Tejada. Looks good to me. Anybody have a problem with it?
• Lori July 22, 2011 at 7:57 pm

  I do not think the Mets should try to do a deal with either the Phillies or the Yankees. Sh&t just seems to always backfire on the Mets. I would rather send him to the Boston Red Sox so they can beat the Yankees and we also would not be helping the Phillies ~ If the Phills went on to win the World Series they would have even MORE money to spend on talent in the future and the Mets would never stand a shot at winning with that team in our division!