Mets Place Reyes On DL, Could Miss Three Weeks

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• jessep July 7, 2011 at 2:06 pm

  I’m sure somehow this will be seen as Alderson’s fault right?

  All of those people who tried telling me Reyes’ leg problems were behind him… now what?

  2003 Sprained ankle, 2004 Strained Hamstring, 2004 Back problem, 2009 calf injury, then a rehab injury which lead to a tear, torn right hamstring, hyperactive thyroid, and now this.

  Now this.

  Look, I love watching him and in a perfect world the Mets would have won a World Series by now and extending him would have been a no brainer. But the facts are the facts. The writing is on the wall.

  A player at age 28 does not suddenly get healthier, specifically when they use their legs as their primary tool. You can show me maybe 2 players: Joe Morgan and Paul Molitor who were high triples, and high SB guys who had great success later in their career.

  I can show you Jimmy Rollins, Juan Samuel, Garry Templeton, Carl Crawford, Tim Raines.

  There’s nothing wrong with Reyes being like a Tim Raines in the later years. Nothing. But is it going to help the Mets win in the future or just make half of an angry fan base feel like they won something?

  Offer him a contract that is reasonable, when he turns it down and signs a ridiculous contract with somebody like Seattle… say best of luck, let him take out a newspaper ad “thanking” us, and let Alderson get his 2 picks and move on.

  Enjoy 2011 for what it is, and hope Reyes gives the Mets 1 final thrill in September.
  • alex68 July 7, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    lol, you know you are a work of art, you praise tulowitzki and claim he’s the hottest sh** since humans invented fire, see no problem with rockies shelling out 6 years 120 million starting 2015 to a guy who’s injury prone as hell, yet, you are over here bashing reyes for being injury on 2009 and being mishandle last year with his thyroid issues, then manuel having him bat right with an oblique injury, and this year while actually HUSTLING to first to get a hit.
    if he signs with someone else is a ridiculously contract, wish him good luck and now comparing him to tim raines??? wow… just wow man, i am surprised you are even in this blog, you LOVE everything and everyone else except the mets.. well, maybe david wright, but other than that everything the mets as a team do or an individual does you hate, yet some else does it and you PRAISE them and give them all credit due
    • Ian July 7, 2011 at 3:03 pm

      He’s in no way basing Reyes. He is just pointing out the fact that speedster do not age well and especially ones with previous leg injuries.

      But I on the other had agree with you. You just might want to clean up the language and don’t be so confrontational.
    • jessep July 7, 2011 at 3:01 pm

      I’m not a Rockies fan nor did I ever say his 10 year $157m contract was a good idea for the future of the organization. (10 years not 6 as you wrongly described)

      I’ve said that Tulo is a bigger star in the sport than Jose Reyes nationally. Reyes is a regional star who has never really performed on a big stage recently.

      And can you please explain your “wish him good luck and now comparing him to tim raines??? wow… just wow man, i am surprised you are even in this blog”

      Are you trying to say that comparing him to Tim Raines is an insult?
      • XtreemIcon July 7, 2011 at 3:05 pm

        Tim Raines is the greatest living ballplayer. There that is. I will accept Yogi Berra, but will disagree.
        • jessep July 7, 2011 at 3:07 pm

          sssh I wanna know how or why comparing Reyes past the age of 28 to Raines is a bad thing
        • jessep July 7, 2011 at 3:09 pm

          btw I don’t think I agree with that statement. But comparing Reyes to him is no insult.
          • XtreemIcon July 7, 2011 at 3:11 pm

            It’s up for debate, certainly. But I think Raines is often overlooked because he had his best seasons in Montreal and didn’t have the longevity (not that anyone did) of Rickey, to whom he is most often compared.
            • jessep July 7, 2011 at 3:18 pm

              Willie Mays is still alive ain’t he?
              • XtreemIcon July 7, 2011 at 3:23 pm

                Shame on me.
                • jessep July 7, 2011 at 3:25 pm

                  haha that’s awesome
                  • XtreemIcon July 7, 2011 at 3:28 pm

                    I don’t know how I forgot about him.
  • Sloatsburg Mets Fan July 7, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    “A player at age 28 does not suddenly get healthier, specifically when they use their legs as their primary tool. You can show me maybe 2 players: Joe Morgan and Paul Molitor who were high triples, and high SB guys who had great success later in their career.

    I can show you Jimmy Rollins, Juan Samuel, Garry Templeton, Carl Crawford, Tim Raines.”

    Ever hear of Tris Speaker, Rogers Hornsby, or Eddie Collins? No? How about Honus Wagner or Ty Cobb?

    All have over 100 career triples and 100 sb’s all played over 2200 games. All are in the Hall. All except for Hornsby had more than 400 sb’s.

    If you’re looking for more current, how about Willie Wilson, Lou Brock, Willie Mays, Vada Pinson, George Brett, Robin Yount, Brett Butler, Steve Finley just to name a few. There are many many more.
    • jessep July 7, 2011 at 3:24 pm

      Sloatsburg:

      Come on! Tell me, PLEASE tell me you understand that my list is based on players in a more realistic time period than Tris Speaker when comparing to Jose Reyes. Tell me you don’t HONESTLY think Speaker, Hornsby, Collins, Wagner or Cobb are fair comparisons to Reyes. Even Mays and Brock are stretches.

      You don’t compare a player in 2011 to a player who’s prime years were in the 1960′s when you’re trying to predict their future. It’s unrealistic.

      George Brett never stole more than 25 bases in a season.
      Robin Yount never did either

      Brett Butler is fine, if you want to argue Reyes’ value is as a singles hitter as he gets older, great. But I think the players I named were much more generous to Reyes
      • Sloatsburg Mets Fan July 8, 2011 at 7:01 am

        I ABSOLUTELY understand it! Not sure you did or are you conveniently changing your parameters? That is why I included some more current players to do what you said can’t be done. Of the second list I gave only 2 had their “prime” in the 1960′s Vada Pinson an outstanding player and Willie Mays is an all-time legendary player so I thought he merited inclusion.

        Funny how you decided to ignore Willie Wilson and Steve Finely but I suppose that is a necessity if your’re trying to skew the numbers to get them to prove your pointless point.

        How about Willie McGee, Andre Dawson, and Tony Gwynn?
  • jessep July 7, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    You can add Kenny Lofton to my list also
• sarge July 7, 2011 at 4:12 pm

  Tulo is in the limelight cause of Rockies amazing dash to wild card a few years back and his HR prowess at Coors but he has been hurt quite a few times also, not hammy but injuries nonetheless so what makes him any different from what Jose has gone through.

  Jose is not just a regional star cause when he came up and had those great early years and made all stars teams despite being a “regional” star so I disagree.

  Tulo, media darling, has been built up by media plus he is well spoken and talks to media always but Jose is not an “out there” type person but he will talk when requested, he lets his play define who he is.

  I am hurt about this, more so than David and Ike’s injuries but I am so tired of the “I told you so’s” out there who never cared for Jose’s being who he is and just waited for the first injury to justify their not wanting him here regardless of the price, just saying.

  Not having him during the Philly series will be big cause he loves to hit their but kudos to Terry and SA AND Jose for not messing around like last time in LA when he got hurt.

  This team of “Buffalo Players” has scratched and clawed so it is up to them and Pelf, Niese, Gee, R.A. and Capuano to try and stay away from big innings to give team a chance to win.
  I hope that Capuano is not pitching in Philly cause he is around the plate a lot and he gives up lots of fly balls and HR.
• jdon July 7, 2011 at 4:44 pm

  The point is: he is hurt again. And who knows if he is back in 3 weeks. He has not been a great healer. What people say about him is true. Yes he runs fast (right now), yes he has a great arm. Yes he hits a lot of triples (when he plays). No he is not worth a 7 year deal.
  • Nester July 7, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    I give Reyes 4 years, $80 million with a team option for one year, $20 million. Take it or leave it.
• sarge July 7, 2011 at 4:59 pm

  I wouldn’t give him a 7 yr deal either but to try and compare him to Tulo, different player, without looking at how much he has been hurt, different ones but still not available for Rockies.
  I don’t get the facination with team giving out these 7 year deals when just looking at it right now you are not going to get your money’s worth.
  Look at Werth, he was a good hitter at CBP and in that lineup but we now see in a different park and lineup he is not the same.

  Jose is who Jose is and he still has plenty of year left to contribute his style of baseball whether it is here or elsewhere but sometimes, not talking about Werth type deals, you have to give a year here and there at end when you don’t expect the same play cause of age but it is still part of game and no one will ever see a deal done, stats, moneyball, saber ball, what ever that will give player exactly what he deserves to the year, just isn’t happening today.
• Original Met Fan July 7, 2011 at 8:36 pm

  This is terrible news to say the least and I hope Jose gets himself well and back as soon as possible.