They are going to rely on those kids to fill in for their rotation discards in the next two or three years.

If we were talking Reyes deal then yes we could get those pitchers AND a top catcher prospect from them but I don’t see them giving away prospects like that for the right to re-sign K-Rod next year.. They will simply wait and buy him if they want him.

Cashmen is on his own walk year. He may lay low and not make any major moves especially since they seem to be winning without a K-Rod in their fold. What they REALLY want is starting pitching…

But the only guy who would get us a prospect is Niese and he in my book is an untouchable for us.

I highly doubt K Rod is pissed off. he knows the contract situation. And MLB really is just a business. Ditto for Beltran.

If sandy sees the team with a viable shot at the playoffs, he is going to go for it IMO. But if they are sitting 10 out of the WC in late july behind 2 teams, then he is going to try and beef up the system by getting rid of guys that aren’t going to be back anyway.

K Rod is a special situation, since they likely can put a better team (as in more wins) on the field by spending his money in other areas, and going with a cheaper closer option.

If you don’t want to go, better get those tickets up on stub hub soon!

And who knows if that is going to happen once Beltran gets sent packing?

Right now Beltran is the main producer aside from Reyes. If we are to lose him it may be moot if we have a closer or not.

Are you telling me that it’s possible to have promising young pitching AND catching prospects all while focusing on winning now and spending money?

Omar you can take your blindfold off now, I’m done

When you in the race to make the playoffs your not going to be overly concerned about 4 years from now you are going to make moves to get it while the getting is good!

Those moves while they may have made the farm a little less potent 3 years later were all meant to get into the playoffs we thought were going to be ours and you can’t say those moves were not needed especially considering how the folded at the end because they didn’t have enough gas!

The job of the GM is in purity to build a winning MLB team. He may use the Minors to do that but if your competing for a playoff you have to make moves and go for it instead of worrying about what you might have 4 years from now when you might not even be here if you do not make a playoff.

Situational awareness trumps Standard Operating procedure.

If we were out of the running in 2006-2008 then the argument of those moves might be valid.
But we WERE in a fight for the playtoffs.
Did Philly shy away from signing Lee despite he probably cost them a pick?

All because they were a competitive team!

No way Boston, Tampa Bay, Cleveland or Texas deals for him. Detroit or the White Sox, LAA are only slight posibilities. Philly’s most likely tapped out payroll wise. Atlanta, SF and Colorado are all set. I can’t see Cinn making a bid for K-Rod. St. Louis? possible I guess and Milwaukee’s all in this year so I wouldn’t totally discount them but they have nothing in the minors to offer.

Basically it would almost have to be a team in the hunt, with an established closer and a big time need. I would certainly talk to everyone but K-Rod is a great fit for the NYY and like I said, can really help them either by agreeing to a 2-3 year deal as a bridge/replacement for Mariano or by returning two #1 draft choices to replenish whatever they have to give up to get him. Either way the NYY get exactly what they need. Question is what are they willing to give us in order to get him. One of Logan, Robertson, Mariano is almost sure to breakdown or wear down before the playoffs and Feliciano and Soriano aren’t coming back effective this year and it was the lack of making the Lee trade last year that cost the NYY at least getting to a World Series if not out right winning it, so will JR Murphy or Gary Sanchez stand in their way this year?

I’m pretty sure that nothing will stand in Cashman’s way this year and that’s a pretty good position for us to be in for a change. Remember it’s always better to trade a guy a year too early than a year too late.

Under his watch we lost too many picks for bad decisions like signing Moises Alou, K-Rod, trading Wagner, etc.

There were too may transactions like that that sucked the lifeblood right out of our farm system.

I include K-Rod because while we needed a closer, if you already had a Putz deal worked out at the time, why throw $36 million with a $17 million option to K-Rod and forfeit a first round pick, when Putz was already an established closer anyway and making $8MM?

Yes, Putz ultimately got hurt, but at the time Omar didn’t know that. He could have simply signed a non Type A free agent reliever if he wanted back up like Trevor, Wood, Uehara, etc. who were all available.

Instead of re-hashing the Billy Wagner fiasco which the Red Sox’ Theo Epstein played perfectly into two high-end prospects, let me just say I hope we don’ do the same mistake again.

The Mets can prevent K-Rod from reaching the 55 game finished plateau, decline the option (buyout was already paid), offer K-Rod arbitration at season’s end, and get two picks or K-Rod back at far less than what he was expected to be paid. What team is going to give us two top prospects for K-Rod?

Keep him and lets add more high upside players to the system. In the meantime we use K-Rod to keep this run at wild card going as long as we can.