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	<title>Comments on: Justin Turner, One Of the League&#8217;s Best RBI Guys?</title>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/07/justin-turner-is-6th-in-the-league-in-rbi.html#comment-167679</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how telling this stat would be on a TEAM basis!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how telling this stat would be on a TEAM basis!</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/07/justin-turner-is-6th-in-the-league-in-rbi.html#comment-167433</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sorry that should read higher than his BA would allow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry that should read higher than his BA would allow.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/07/justin-turner-is-6th-in-the-league-in-rbi.html#comment-167431</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL I would however let the site owners create the market account so whatever they charged for it would help pay for the server costs here.

They can cut you in! LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL I would however let the site owners create the market account so whatever they charged for it would help pay for the server costs here.</p>
<p>They can cut you in! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes it does show POTENTIAL of a batter to drive in runs provided he gets the opportunities which is really what you want to know when judging RBI potential of a player.
Get more guys on base and he is likely to drive him in.

At some point players with many more opportunities than normal will get hurt merely because of limitations of batting average which Howard might fall under.

If you get up everytime with a runner on it is unreasonable to think a batter&#039;s OBI could go much higher than his BA in that scenario but it does even out the disparity between players opportunities for normal. As with any metric extremes will skew but I don&#039;t think it is enough to say it is not usable. Just like any metric you have to recognize the extremes and compensate accordingly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it does show POTENTIAL of a batter to drive in runs provided he gets the opportunities which is really what you want to know when judging RBI potential of a player.<br />
Get more guys on base and he is likely to drive him in.</p>
<p>At some point players with many more opportunities than normal will get hurt merely because of limitations of batting average which Howard might fall under.</p>
<p>If you get up everytime with a runner on it is unreasonable to think a batter&#8217;s OBI could go much higher than his BA in that scenario but it does even out the disparity between players opportunities for normal. As with any metric extremes will skew but I don&#8217;t think it is enough to say it is not usable. Just like any metric you have to recognize the extremes and compensate accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/07/justin-turner-is-6th-in-the-league-in-rbi.html#comment-167425</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I could have one done in an hour (App) as long as the site has an RSS feed. There is a new site called AppYet that you put in the RSS feed info and it automatically creates an App (Android) that can be put on the Market.

If the mods are interested here is the link.
http://www.appyet.com/

If you want some help feel free to let me know I can create it for you but it really is as simple as filling out a form and getting a download.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could have one done in an hour (App) as long as the site has an RSS feed. There is a new site called AppYet that you put in the RSS feed info and it automatically creates an App (Android) that can be put on the Market.</p>
<p>If the mods are interested here is the link.<br />
<a href="http://www.appyet.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.appyet.com/</a></p>
<p>If you want some help feel free to let me know I can create it for you but it really is as simple as filling out a form and getting a download.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/07/justin-turner-is-6th-in-the-league-in-rbi.html#comment-167424</link>
		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shoot, that&#039;s actually a great idea.  I got dibs on intellectual property! Profits split with the one who actually knows how to write apps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoot, that&#8217;s actually a great idea.  I got dibs on intellectual property! Profits split with the one who actually knows how to write apps.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/07/justin-turner-is-6th-in-the-league-in-rbi.html#comment-167423</link>
		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should write an MMO app.  Get text updates when someone posts a new article or someone comments on your thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should write an MMO app.  Get text updates when someone posts a new article or someone comments on your thread.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/07/justin-turner-is-6th-in-the-league-in-rbi.html#comment-167422</link>
		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right about the bases loaded vs. man-on-first issue. Which is why I find it very good foresight that BP also includes the OBI from each individual base. You&#039;re able to put it all in perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right about the bases loaded vs. man-on-first issue. Which is why I find it very good foresight that BP also includes the OBI from each individual base. You&#8217;re able to put it all in perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s baseball season and have been working a few games as vacation replacement! SO been on the road a lot.
That and I have been busy trying to write an operating system for my phone! LOL

The skewing I spoke about could occur if a player with few opportunities got those few with lets say the bases loaded and failed but succeeded in one or two where there was only one guy on. Reverse it and it skews the opposite way.

It is not a major statistical issue for me though as really the anomolies are more due to the same sampling issues most metrics and stats have. Not anything to do with the metric itself in fact the metric does everything it can to offset that situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s baseball season and have been working a few games as vacation replacement! SO been on the road a lot.<br />
That and I have been busy trying to write an operating system for my phone! LOL</p>
<p>The skewing I spoke about could occur if a player with few opportunities got those few with lets say the bases loaded and failed but succeeded in one or two where there was only one guy on. Reverse it and it skews the opposite way.</p>
<p>It is not a major statistical issue for me though as really the anomolies are more due to the same sampling issues most metrics and stats have. Not anything to do with the metric itself in fact the metric does everything it can to offset that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Metsie. Where have you been?

This metric exists as an answer to the skewed way RBI totals are looked at. The percentages wouldn&#039;t be skewed. Look at Pablo Sandoval. He&#039;s got fewer than half the RBIs Howard does, 46% to be exact. But he&#039;s batted this season with only 42% of the runners on base Howard has. It&#039;s a perfectly valid argument that Pablo Sabdoval is better at driving in runs than Ryan Howard is. Actually, there are thirteen hitters in the league better at driving runners in than Howard, Turner included.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Metsie. Where have you been?</p>
<p>This metric exists as an answer to the skewed way RBI totals are looked at. The percentages wouldn&#8217;t be skewed. Look at Pablo Sandoval. He&#8217;s got fewer than half the RBIs Howard does, 46% to be exact. But he&#8217;s batted this season with only 42% of the runners on base Howard has. It&#8217;s a perfectly valid argument that Pablo Sabdoval is better at driving in runs than Ryan Howard is. Actually, there are thirteen hitters in the league better at driving runners in than Howard, Turner included.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/07/justin-turner-is-6th-in-the-league-in-rbi.html#comment-167406</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great Article AND metric X!

Could even be the CLUTCH metric many of the saber rattlers claim does not exist.
Of course as with any metric it has to be applied correctly. Leadoff Men would likely have lower than usual opportunities and therefore their percentage could easily be skewed lower but as long as you remember that and compare him to other players with similar opportunities it would still be a decent clutch indicator.

As I have said in our past discussions, RBI is a very important number in judging the value of the player in question. And while those numbers are somewhat dependent on players in front of him, this at least takes those opportunities (or lack of) into account and it can be determined if the low RBI is him or those players not getting on in front of him!

It does penalize HR hitters like Howard who seem to have an opportunity to get an RBI in every PA but that can be remedied by a mere glance at the HR totals so it&#039;s not a problem for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article AND metric X!</p>
<p>Could even be the CLUTCH metric many of the saber rattlers claim does not exist.<br />
Of course as with any metric it has to be applied correctly. Leadoff Men would likely have lower than usual opportunities and therefore their percentage could easily be skewed lower but as long as you remember that and compare him to other players with similar opportunities it would still be a decent clutch indicator.</p>
<p>As I have said in our past discussions, RBI is a very important number in judging the value of the player in question. And while those numbers are somewhat dependent on players in front of him, this at least takes those opportunities (or lack of) into account and it can be determined if the low RBI is him or those players not getting on in front of him!</p>
<p>It does penalize HR hitters like Howard who seem to have an opportunity to get an RBI in every PA but that can be remedied by a mere glance at the HR totals so it&#8217;s not a problem for me.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the comment. Turner&#039;s hitting over 100 points higher with men on base than he is with the bases empty this season.  That&#039;s going to be very hard to sustain, but the Mets should take advantage of it sooner rather than later. He should be batting fourth after Beltran is traded (Murphy, Turner, Wright in the middle) until he cools down and regresses to the mean.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the comment. Turner&#8217;s hitting over 100 points higher with men on base than he is with the bases empty this season.  That&#8217;s going to be very hard to sustain, but the Mets should take advantage of it sooner rather than later. He should be batting fourth after Beltran is traded (Murphy, Turner, Wright in the middle) until he cools down and regresses to the mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Backstop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Backstop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post, I enjoy learning new things and this is one stat that does make a lot of sense to me. It&#039;s almost kind of an indicator as to how clutch a player is with men on base? Anyway, that&#039;s what it seems like to me based on your description. It also dispells the notion that you need to have a big homerun bat to be a solid RBI guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, I enjoy learning new things and this is one stat that does make a lot of sense to me. It&#8217;s almost kind of an indicator as to how clutch a player is with men on base? Anyway, that&#8217;s what it seems like to me based on your description. It also dispells the notion that you need to have a big homerun bat to be a solid RBI guy.</p>
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		<title>By: alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so, at the end of all this, what your article is basically saying that he&#039;s a clutch hitter who produces runs despite the fact that he gets less opp to drive them in??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, at the end of all this, what your article is basically saying that he&#8217;s a clutch hitter who produces runs despite the fact that he gets less opp to drive them in??</p>
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