Does slugging% pretend doubles are twice as valuable as singles and home runs are twice as valuable as doubles?

I would really want to know because you said that’s what slugging does in your post, but when I said the same thing, it was wrong.

You asked me, “how is it flawed?” And I answered. “What it really does is it has a double twice as valuable as a single, and a HR twice as valuable as a double.”

Here’s what you said about slugging%:

“SLG% is probably the second most important rate stat available, but I like to think of it as OBP’s understudy. It definitely serves a purpose and is important to production, but without OBP, it doesn’t really have much meaning. That’s because SLG% doesn’t account for the rate of reaching base, or not making outs. It also pretends doubles are twice as valuable as singles and home runs are twice as valuable as doubles. Not true by any means.”

So to sum that up you said, slugging is good, but not without OBP because it doesn’t account for the rate of reaching base AND(this is the important part) it ALSO pretends doubles are twice as valuable as singels, and HR’s are twice as valuable as doubles.

You pointed out the flaw with slugging%, and that’s exactly what I did too. I pointed out a problem with it, and it’s the same EXACT thing YOU said in YOUR post.

But I’m lying? lol.

I’m done with this.

“It also pretends doubles are twice as valuable as singles and home runs are twice as valuable as doubles. Not true by any means”

http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/11/greetings-mmo.html

and here’s what I said:

“What it really does is it has a double twice as valuable as a single, and a HR twice as valuable as a double.”

Sounds like the same thing to me, now doesn’t it?

What it really does is it has a double twice as valuable as a single, and a HR twice as valuable as a double.

Which is all not true.

The only number that would show you that he isn’t doing that good is ISO(His ISO sitll wouldn’t be that bad). ISO is flawed anyway, I don’t like how it’s calcuated…but almost every number out there would show Bay’s been playing really good the last few weeks, and he has.

That’s good – Jason Bay has been playing good baseball.

By the way, a .467 SLG with a .311 BA is just not good for a power hitter. A .156 ISO is where players like John Buck, Michael Young, Jayson Werth, Martin Prado and Danny Valencia hit. That’s the kind of power that satisfies you from Bay? Martin Prado?

Jason Bay for the last 23 games has been playing good baseball.

It just seems like your making excuses for his play the last few weeks.

And yes, his power is a mirage. He has six extra base hits since May 19th. Four of them are home runs. He ran into four pitches. Big deal.

And it’s not the outcome of his plate appearances that are negative, it’s his plate appearances that are negative. I’m not gonna get a little sugar high because a guy who’s been terrible has been less terrible for three weeks.

It seems like your just looking for a way to put him down. His hits are lucky, his HR’s are mirages……The way you have it, EVERY possible outcome of his AB’s is a negative.

There’s actually nothing he could have done the last 23 games to make you think he’s doing good. He gets alot of hits? “oh he’s lucky.” He hits a few HR’s? “oh that’s a mirage.” There’s nothing possible that Bay could do, there’s an excuse for everything he does good.

And to say his power has shown no signs of returning is simply not true. He has hit 4HR’s in 23 games…..not bad, and just so you know, a .467 slugging.

Bay is a streaky hitter, so, without Reyes, Wright (who had been non-existant anyway), and Davis in the lineup, he picked a great time to go on a hot streak…hopefully it continues for a little while longer.