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2011
Enough Is Enough, Time To Can The Jose Reyes Trade Talk
An article by Former Writers
With yesterday’s two-hit performance by the soon-to-be 3-time All-Star shortstop Jose Reyes, there seems to be nothing this guy cannot do. He’s raised his league leading average to .351 in a tough 5-2 Mets loss to the Detroit Tigers prior to the start of the Subway Series.
More importantly, the 28-year-old now has 15 triples and is on pace for 30, which would set a franchise record. Adding two more steals to his season total tonight, Reyes has now swiped 29. Considering all these factors Reyes is seemingly an immovable piece of the Mets puzzle.
According to several reports from ESPN, there have been no teams that have called the Mets about the availability of Reyes. In fact, the dynamic leadoff man has played so well that some think he’s priced himself out of the Mets’ range.
The way I see it, there’s very little chance Reyes will leave the Mets. Considering the Mets are 5-1 on their current road trip, and have pushed to two games over .500 they now sit just five games back of the Atlanta Braves in the wild card race. At this point, Reyes is the centerpiece of a Mets team that has caught fire. Apparently the same sources from ESPN point out that Jose’s play may be pricing him out of a potential future with the Amazin’s.
It seems lately, whether it’s Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran, or Francisco Rodriguez, as fast as the trade rumors start for these three cornerstones is as fast they fade away. When all is said and done, we might just have to wait for the July 31st trade deadline to see how things truly pan out. This year’s trade deadline could very well determine the fate of the Mets franchise the next five to ten years.
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And Beltran and Rodriguez are not likely to be part of the mets franchise for the next 5 years. KRod’s fastball is disappearing and Beltran’s future is behind him. The only issue is Reyes. And they will not pay 20+ million for him. It is as simple as that.
Reyes is going to get between 15-20 million per season he’s worth it lets face it. How can you replace the most dynamic player in the game and the best player on the Mets? You can’t Reyes is by far the MVP in the NL this year, without Reyes the Mets are an easy 10 to 15 games under .500. He’s been the most valuable player to his team simple as that.
I think we are missing the boat in this discussion…
The question should not be looked at for the amount.
The Question is Simple: “Can you improve the position Reyes plays in any way shape and form?”
Answer: NO! he is the best SS in Baseball! regardless of if you think he is the best player in baseball, the cheapest buy or most expensive player in baseball history the fact still remains, You can not get a better SS anywhere on this planet right now?
How much or little he costs (or “his worth”) will be based on how many teams CAN improve their SS position by going and getting Reyes.
Which happens to be ALL of them!
So be prepared to pay and pay it! Because any other move is a bad one for us! You will have LOST talent and no amount of money on the planet is going to get it back for you unless you pay Reyes’ rate! Cause he is the only one who can do what he is doing at the SS position.
Save money on things we don’t need instead!
Let’s not forget either the Mets have roughly $60 million coming off the books. They’re pretty much set at every position, the only places I can see this team going out and spending in the off-season would be to improve the bench, the bullpen, and possibly a number 5 starter. Other than that the Mets are pretty much set everywhere else. Oh and maybe a corner outfielder but who knows.
The money will be there for Reyes if the Mets want to resign him.
And Metsie that’s what I said there is no way the Mets can improve or replace what Reyes brings to the Mets and the way he plays.
There is simply no other player that will give the New York Mets a better chance to win than Jose Reyes at shortstop.
If they lose K-Rod, they’ll play wiothout a true closer for 4-5 years. If they lose Carlos Beltran, they won’t ever see another player that good for 7-10 years. If they lose Jose Reyes, they’ll wait 10-15 years or longer until they produce another shortstop like this. But get used to it. These are the Monaeyball Mets which means money for the owners pockets and a crap product that will never win a world series on the field.
Sorry Stache but your wrong…the cutting of Salary is not going to put money into the owners pockets merely not take anymore out!
They will cut salary to a break even point (about 100 Mil) which is why Beltran and K-Rod will go.
And thats because attendance is not high enough to pay the bills.
That is OUR fault not the fault of ownership!
And saying that we will be without a closer for 4 or 5 years is rediculous.
K-Rod isn’t the only closer on the planet. And Beato is being groomed to be the closer of the future once he gets the experience he needs.
Hi Metsie, I agree with you. Do you think it was wise to build a park with almost 15,000 fewer seats in a New York market? The Mets emailed me after last night’s game asking me to spread the word that they are selling standing room only tickets for $45 today at Jackie Robinson Rotunda. I know they havenet sold out many games since 2009. But they were packing them in from 2005 to 2008 even with the collapses.
Hey Joe, I look at it like this…
If they were selling out Citi and still had financial problems then yes you could say building a stadium with fewer seats was a problem.
But they aren’t even selling out the fewer seats!
When they sold out Shea in that stretch it was because they were in contention from 2005-2008. The collapses came at the end of the year when the earlier Attendance already had paid the bills.
People are hinging on every word spoken now but they quickly forget what was said in 2005 when Omar took over.
Wilpon said at the time we went buying Beltran and Pedro that they were hoping to boost attendance by getting those guys and competing more despite the fact the attendance really wasn’t paying for it at the time.
He admitted that in order for the team to turn a profit they would have to make the playoffs where that EXTRA money would be made on Tickets and all the things tat generate funds during an attended game. Without a playoff they would at best break even.
In 2009 and 2010 the Salary did not go down but Attendance did. Which is why they are now losing money because they can’t get people to go to the games.
All this financial issues are so easily pointed at madoff, But we all know now they MADE A PROFIT from Madoff. Madoff can have no affect on financials until such time as the judge rules they have to give money back.
It’s a nice excuse for the fans but the fans have to start realizing the financial situation has less to do with money mismanagment and everything to do with us Boycotting and refusing to go to games regularly.
And a 5-13 start to the season just exacerbated that situation.
I have said this since the ASB last year…
If we want them to keep the players we like and spend money on being competitive then we fans have to stand to our post and go to games to help pay for it.
madoff and fewer seats in a stadium might make things more difficult to manage for them but those are not the causes of the financial woes.
We have met the financial enemy and it is US!
The Moneyball Mets who have spent $140 million on players this year. Yeah… that’s what the book Moneyball was all about right?
If the Mets spend $100m on their team next year and commit to remaining $100m-$120m, why is that so bad? It’s about who you have, not how much you pay them
Well Jessup that is “yeoman Pirate” thinking if you ask me….
Why do Salaries go higher?
Because players in 2010 are better than players in 2006?
100-120 Mil does not get you enough performance to compete.
Not when your main division rival is spending 172 Mil.
Who are the best teams in Baseball?
Phillies 172M
Yankees 201M
Boston 161M
Sure you vcan go on a hot streak with a lower salary and keep in the race. But if you want to win the race you have to be willing to spend on the players who will create more hot streaks when some other player stops carrying them through another.
It’s easy to say you can compete with a 100Mil salary and maybe you can, the Giants seems to if you don’t look at what thier rivals spend to compete.
Giants 118M
Ariz 53M
Colorado 87M
Dodgers 103M (and soon to be falling)
San Diego 45M
Now thats not trying to say that spending money is the key to success. But you have to do it if you want to play for the division if your division is spending money to win.
To say you can compete with a 100Mil salary in the NL East is a fools thinking!
You can’t sign enough talent to keep those winning streaks going or to get the guys need to have a winning streak in the first place!
100M salary to day is basically Middle Quality Roster. It’s that money you spend above 100M that makes you a playoff team.
Bottomline it’s not about HOW MUCH you spend but how you spend what you do.
Our current 140M expenditure is not getting bang for the buck because we are on the end of those big buy contracts, which if attendance was what it should be would have been replaced by other signings that would have kept us competitive.
But in 2009 and 2010 we didn’t bother to show up thanks to early injuries. And whatever money we might have spent to keep us competitive was not there!
Salaries go up EVERY year but the play you get for that money does not increase with it.
So the assertion that we can win with a 100M payroll might work in the cheap NL West and Central but it sure won’t work playing against the Phillies!
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