Beltran On Joining Red Sox, “It’s A No-Brainer”

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• METS62FAN July 9, 2011 at 9:18 am

  While SF may have avarice in their heart glancing towards Carlos; it’s unlikely their financial contrictions would allow them to indulge Bochy’s desires re. Carlos.

  I see him reprising his role as as Cammy’s position replacement in Boston attempting to releagate those damed YANKEES to the W/C entry position in postseason. That RH swing of his will topple the MONSTER. as his LH swing familiarizes fans with Johnny Pesky’s namesake pole
• MetsJets69 July 9, 2011 at 10:34 am

  Buster Olney said the Mets would only get ONE B-/C+ prospect for Beltran and ONLY if they ate $7 million of the $10 million left on the contract.

  We should just keep him. A playoff run is worth more than a C prospect.
  • Brian July 9, 2011 at 10:42 am

    A “B” or “C” prospect is worth a lot more than you think. Jon Niese and Bobby Parnell were C prospects. Trading Beltran is by no means giving up, it’s increasing the odds for more productive winning seasons in the future.
    • Chakrabs July 10, 2011 at 11:15 am

      I will point out that those kinds of success stories are few and far between. You’d still be giving up a top player + cash for essentially peanuts.
• Chakrabs July 10, 2011 at 10:49 am

  Recently, Buster Olney mentioned on Twitter that last year, the most money any team took on via trade was $5 mil. Beltran will be due $9 mil in the second half. Olney went on to posit that EVEN IF the Mets coughed up $5-7 mil, the best they could hope for would be a B-/C+ prospect. To me, thats incredibly lopsided in favor of the acquiring team. The Mets would be losing Beltran’s performance AND shelling out a ton of cash for essentially nothing. Whereas the acquiring team would be acquiring a top-20 player (by WAR) for a piddling prospect and have to pay only $2 million bucks.

  I’d keep Beltran if thats the best we’re going to get.
  • kevin July 10, 2011 at 11:06 am

    I’m not a big fan of WAR but I do agree Beltran is definitely a top 20 player based on a few other metrics, and he may even be the best player available at the trade deadline because Reyes is definitely not on the block. I agree with the crux of your argument and would add that trading him and paying another team for the priveledge of adding Beltran to their post season would be very hard to take for Mets fans.
• Will July 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm

  I say trade him. Once a team in the same division found out they are going after him his value goes up…

  Getting Wheeler from the Giants would be a success, but I would be happy getting a catcher from the Yankees. i don’t if they win…it all about doing what best for this teams future.
• Metsie July 10, 2011 at 2:19 pm

  If you say your trading Beltran to dump salary then what really is the point if your going to pay most of it anyway?

  He’s due 9 Mil in the 2nd half and we have to pay 7 of it?

  Thats fine but it had better be for a much better prospect than a B- or C+!

  If not then all your really doing is saving 2 Mil and giving up on a potentiall promising season!

  What is the point then?

  We can’t offer Arbitration but that doesn’t mean Carlos won’t get labeled Typa A or B and net a compensatory pick.
  • METS62FAN July 11, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Metsie, if you’ve been paying attention, $2M is not pocket lint @ these times hell, it’s motre than Young & Capouano were signed for Metsie, I suggest u start thinking like it’s your spending, not some imaginary billionaire, who never,ever existed.
    • Metsie July 11, 2011 at 10:15 am

      I am thinking that way 62 YOU however seem to forget that if Beltran gets traded to just save 2 Mil the only ones who will be at the stadium from then on are crickets!

      And when your spending 140 Mil and about to lose 70 Mil on the year? 2 Mil is pocket lint!
• jdon July 10, 2011 at 2:28 pm

  Right. You only pay if you are getting something GOOD. Anyway, why is anyone believing Buster Olney, all of a sudden. He is always wrong. That is why he is on ESPN.
• METS62FAN July 11, 2011 at 10:31 am

  Metsie, can’t find your hypberbolic crickettts comment; however, In his best Season Beltran was never considered “THE DRAWING CARD”; I certainly believe Reyes, Wright & Davis will all return before Beltran receives his traveling itinerary.

  Somehow, I find it easy to conceive that this team can with those 3 producing, survive without Beltran. Realisticly in popularity Carlos unfortunately resides at the bottom of a list that considers the drawing powers of
  PIAZZA
  RETYES
  WRIGHT
  DAVIS
  SANTANA
  PEDRO
  of ALL the successful players we’ve developed or imported, Carlos’ popularity resides somewhere on this list between Pedro & Cammy. I forsee polite applause at his return as a visiting player
  obviously there’s still room for his name after Pedro’s. unless his pockets are stuffed with cricketts, they are of no consequence much the same as C arlos’ ultimate departure.
  • Metsie July 11, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    None of them are a real draw. No one started going to games until they were playing competitive baseball and that will end if we trade Beltran this year because he is the only big bat we have right now.

    Maybe Wright and Davis pick up the slack if they get back but with all the time they missed you can not expect either of them to come back and start running with the bat and RBIs.

    As of late this team believes it can win any game and then fights to try to do just that. Trading Beltran for nothing will IMO suck the life right out of them.
• Metstheory22 July 13, 2011 at 9:37 am

  Would rather see him go to Giants or Red Sox than Yanks. Why help them win a series?
  • METS62FAN July 13, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Theory, actually, it should be more about the best return to our Mets, to my way of thinking; if Alderson was smart, he’d let it leak he was about to talk to Boston; then see who calls with what to offer. Time to learn a lesson in tactics from Boras, u always get more out od any deal that u have both BOS & NYY interested in Screw them both, 2011 will soon be finished & forgotten. As long as we don’t lose ground, I couldn’t possibly care any less what happens in the AL East.

    for a chance @ either of the NYY’s two AA SP studs; they could sweep their way into the WS.
• scottydoesn'tknow July 13, 2011 at 12:12 pm

  In my opinion, unless we are getting some decent prospects back from trading Beltran, it probably isn’t worth it. A salary dump would only be for this season, and I find it hard to believe that there is a team out there willing to eat the $9 mil or so he is owed.

  The Mets might be better off instead holding onto Carlos for the remainder of the season, AND possibly see if he wants to re-sign a 1-3 year deal (Without a no-trade clause, and without the No-Arbitration Clause).

  Beltran is making a resurgence and I still feel he can be a trememdous right fielder for the Mets for the next 2-3 years. Obviously not at the top dollar he is currently making, but if he was willing to take a decent pay cut to stay with the Mets and play right field; I would make that deal.

  Before anyone jumps down my throat, obviously the Mets would have to lock up Reyes first, and Beltran would have to take a significant pay cut and certainly no more than 2-3 years on a contract without restrictions.

  Just a thought, I still feel he is a great hitter and fielder, and he has recently matured into a mentoring role as well which could be a big help in developing F-Mart, Duda, and others
  • METS62FAN July 13, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Obviously one of the many tings Scotty really doesn’t know is Boras represents Beltran & his relationship with thje NYM over Beltran has been far from amicable. Scotty, when was the last time a Boras’ client agreed to a hometown discount? Stay away from the hallucinagins Bayonne has dibs.
  • jessep July 13, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    scotty: I think its a nice thought to think he’d resign here but you’re talking about a guy who had to have super secret surgery because he didn’t trust the team. This is also the same guy rep’d by Scott Boras.

    He’s a lameduck player, Buster Olney is saying 6 or 7 teams are interested. That helps the Mets drive the price up. Will they get rich off him? No. But getting something of value for him is better than watching him walk out the door for nothing. I actually like Beltran, I think he was treated so unfairly by a lot of fans because expectations were huge due to playoff success.

    He’s done with us, so we need to be done with him and get something for him