A Win – Win Trade For The Brewers and The Wilpons

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• alex68 July 13, 2011 at 7:18 am

  shocked? other than the fact that this front office is telling the fan base “the season is over” i am sure we’re not shocked at all. for those who got it wrong this front office gave up cash and krod to the brewers for .. wait for it… a player (usually a SCRUB) to be named later. first they pick nimmo, now they get rid of one of the best closers in the game for nothing, and what exactly does this move do other than save cash to the broke ass owners?? keep believing the front office of losers will put up a competitive team on the field in the next few years, next up is beltran…
  good luck with the clean cut, nice kid from good family parnell closing games as a major leaguer.. this is embarrassing and as a fan i am disgusted at this organization and most of all the front office for showing ineptitude in less than a year.
  • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 7:29 am

    by the way joe D, i hope adam rubin was kidding when he said that miguel batista will be the closer!!!
  • NYMetsfan July 13, 2011 at 7:47 am

    You are one of the biggest Reyes advocates, can you stop for ONE second and realize this may help in resigning him?

    17.5 for a closer is STUPID money spent, while other shout moneyball, this is a waste of money that could be spent better elsewhere.
    • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 8:18 am

      again, if the owner have to do a fire sale to sign 1 player, (mind you as great as he is he CAN’T carry the mets by himself) then sell the team, since is clearly they won’t sell, don’t try to sell us the fans crap about future when all you getting from an all star closer is crap and on top of that pay the other team to take him.. embarrassing situation if you are a mets fan
      • NYMetsfan July 13, 2011 at 12:02 pm

        More embarrassing is that you can’t see beyond the tip of your nose.
• Annie Savoy July 13, 2011 at 8:00 am

  I would have gotten rid of him somehow right after he caused all that trouble after he caused by fighting with his “father in law” in plain view of the women and children in their family room.

  Money isn’t the only criteria to be used in dealing with athletes/players.

  I don’t hear anyone complain about Wally Backman either when he has several outstanding issues with domestic violence still on the police blotter in Arizona.

  Sometimes I wonder who is making these choices.

  Right now, better late than never, Sandy has dumped a big problem.
  • Des July 13, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Annie, I’ve admired your stance on family values for a long time. But I think the potential of K-Rod’s vesting option trumped concerns over his former behavior. Also, many scouts notice the diminished value of K-Rod on the field with his now-hittable fast ball.
  • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Sandy has dumped a big problem” making the mets irrelevant for the season.. how quickly ppl forget if we would’ve had a closer in 2008 we would’ve been in the playoffs and who knows if champions.. ppl forget how many games we blew due to NOT having a bullpen. yet this year, the bullpen was steady and consistant, but sandy wasn’t brought here for that, he came in to give up on 2011 and clear as much salary as he can bu dumping salary, what, the mets in contention, i don’t care fans, i’m moneyballing you guys to death.. mark it, miguel batista will be here soon to close games for us.
    • Donal July 13, 2011 at 9:33 am

      Did you forget we had multiple closers in 1986?

      The Mets burned out in 2008 because only 2 guys in the line up were hitting the last 2 months of the season and bullpen only had Wagner, 2 LOOGYs and a bunch of nobodies, and then Wagner got hurt.

      I’d rather 4 or 5 guys I can put in when I need them than 1 guy that only pitches when the game is all but decided.
      • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 9:55 am

        donalickety, are you serious?? we had one of the best rotations in history, also we didn’t have a straight up closer because we didn’t really need a closer!!!!
        gooden had 12 CG
        ojeda 7 CG
        sid Fernandez 2 CG
        Darling had 4 CG
        Aguliera had 2 CG and 22 saves
        also, a combined 7 shutous and if you didn’t notice the 5th best defensive team in baseball that year..
        • Donal July 13, 2011 at 2:36 pm

          So, a closer isn’t a necessity.

          Thanks for proving my point.
      • NYMetsfan July 13, 2011 at 12:03 pm

        He also forgot that Davey J was using sabremetrics in 86……….
• Des July 13, 2011 at 8:12 am

  This deal reminds us that the business side of baseball almost always drives the game of baseball played between the lines. Back in 1958, Dodgers owner Walter O’Malley left Brooklyn for the West Coast, even though the Dodgers were a profitable franchise at Ebbets Field.

  As we know, O’Malley moved the Dodgers to Los Angeles and coordinated the move of the New York Giants to San Francisco.

  So there is really not a big surprise to the Mets deal. Terry Collins agrees: “Part of my job is to make sure they maintain focus. If someone is moved from this club who is a high-profile guy, my job is to make sure they understand that there’s a business side of this game that you’ve got to be able to play through.”
• mci July 13, 2011 at 8:14 am

  Cannot wait for thekool aide club like donutz to rave about the players to be named later, well before they are named!
  • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 8:18 am

    i can name the players, chriscrap and Mccrapperrr
  • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 8:21 am

    ppl defend this front office and all they’ve done so far is, surround reyes and co with crap on the field, then unfortunately the mets started playing better, then now they’re force to “sell” because they wanna save as much money as possible to “sign” reyes??? then what? who will be the closer? who will be the ace if santana doesn’t come back as santana?? face it mets fans, the team and collins might’ve not gave up on the season, but the front office of “sabermetrics” did.. miguel batista the new closer.. watch
    • srt July 13, 2011 at 8:25 am

      It isn’t about the PTBNL and it is about the money.
      And the money situation wasn’t caused by Sandy or Collins. Sandy’s just left picking up the pieces of the situation that the Wilpons and Omar put this franchise in.

      I’m not sure why some of you cannot see this.
      • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 8:27 am

        Sandy’s just left picking up the pieces of the situation that the Wilpons and Omar put this franchise in.”

        it seems you’re drinking the kool aid, do you realize that omar’s players are the one carrying this team?? sandy hasn’t done squat, ohh, and in case you didn’t notice, the WILPONS are still here!!!!!!!!
        • srt July 13, 2011 at 8:37 am

          I’ve been reading here a while this year but hardly ever commenting b/c it seems pointless.

          Everyone has their opinion and no one is changing anyone else’s minds.

          Sandy hasn’t done squat? He just traded KRod and got rid of that 17.5 MIL Omar negotiated. Score one for Sandy.

          The Wilpons are still here…thanks – I didn’t realize that.
          • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 8:40 am

            score one for sandy?? for giving up on the season?? because he will be trading more players, trust me.. in 3 years after cleaning “salary” and surround reyes with crap like hu and eamus, he will bolt and say, “i’m too old for this s***!!”
            • srt July 13, 2011 at 9:22 am

              Hey alex, with your powers of seeing into the future, can I get tonight’s winning lottery numbers?
              • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 9:28 am

                3 7 14 28 36 22
            • Derek C. July 13, 2011 at 3:36 pm

              Good one Alex. I am dying with laughter because I do not think you are that far off at all on your prediction.
• srt July 13, 2011 at 8:23 am

  Not shocked and anyone that is either doesn’t understand the position the Mets are in or refused to see the forest for the trees.

  Surprised? Nope. Well maybe just a little it was this early. I would have put this trade at about 10 days down the road. But that’s quibbling.

  Had nothing personal against KRod like others seem to do but he had to go for the single reason of that vesting option Omar negotiated with him when he came here. Given the money situation and the possibility of being able to resign Reyes, this was the single most intelligent move you could make to move towards that goal.

  Being realistic, KRod – even though still an effective closer – puts too many on base before he shuts the door. For every guy he puts on, that is that many more pitches he throws through the course of a year. His FB velocity wasn’t likely ever to return to previous form. Always better to trade a player one year too early rather than one year too late.
• will July 13, 2011 at 8:24 am

  here we go!! last place until the Wilpons sell. Next move is Cashman calling Sandy, I will give you the cleats Jeter used to hit 3000 with for Beltran, Sandy’s reply, we will send him right over….lol if you cannot afford your franchise sell it…..
  • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 8:27 am

    if you cannot afford your franchise sell it…..”

    Alex68 approves this msg!!
• MetFan Lou July 13, 2011 at 9:15 am

  Yeah but this deal could be nixed if his probation officer won’t let him move out of state. But seriouslt folks being 10.5 games out and one game over 500 we had no hope of getting close to a wild card and with the Braves and Phiilies so far ahead of us it makes no difference if he is a Met or not. What happens next is Beltran traded and the focus goes to Reyes now. Keep your eyes on the star-Reyes Reyes Reyes!
  • kevin July 13, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Yeah but this deal could be nixed if his probation officer won’t let him move out of state.

    Your comment was good for a chuckle
• Squidoo July 13, 2011 at 10:21 am

  Man I love this site, I really do and have been coming here for years, but theres like 3-4 commenters that really make it a drag and I dont understand how all you writers here put up with them. It’s not that they have differeing opinions, but they either insult you when you disagree, or start acting like a bunch of five year olds. These 3-4 people keep you from being the best Mets site for original content and debate.
  • alex68 July 13, 2011 at 10:38 am

    you’re absolutely right…
    • MetFan Lou July 13, 2011 at 11:33 am

      I couldn’t agree with you more. Now that I have some extra time I only wish this site would allow me to post a few pictures too (you know what I mean).
      Love the postings,
      Yours truly and a kid from Brooklyn
      Anthony (The Package) Weiner
    • NYMetsfan July 13, 2011 at 12:05 pm

      You are one of the people Squiddo is talking about.
      • MetFan Lou July 13, 2011 at 12:56 pm

        yeah i’ll wear this as a badge of honor. long live the 1st amendment (that’s in the Constitution by the way).
        • Donal July 13, 2011 at 2:37 pm

          do you know what it actually says?
          • MetFan Lou July 13, 2011 at 7:14 pm

            As a matter of fact I do> “Congress shall make no law ……….
            abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press …….” What scares me about some of the posters is that they would actually think some posters (like yours truly) could be charged with a “hate speech” crime. Kinda scary ain’t it. Reminds me of the times AAron Heilmann pitched for us.
            • Donal July 13, 2011 at 7:52 pm

              You do understand who Congress is right?

              And that just because you are allowed to say what you want doesn’t mean that someone has to provide you with a soapbox to do it with? That what we are using right now is actually someone’s private property?