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2011
Why Nimmo And Not A Pitcher?
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The New York Mets need pitching, pitching and more pitching.
That’s why it’s quite strange that the team selected high school outfielder Brandon Nimmo with the No. 13 overall pick in this year’s MLB Draft.
I can echo Robert Knapel’s sentiments on the subject that this pick is odd.
First off, Nimmo, who is the highest drafted player ever from Wyoming, never even played high school baseball since the state does not have a high school baseball league. This isn’t too alarming, however, since the talent obviously must be there if the Mets took this much of a risk.
The interesting thing however is that the Mets went with a high schooler rather than a college player. Based on Moneyball, the Sandy Alderson and Paul DePodesta seemed to lean toward college players, thinking that they had more experience.
Of course, we won’t know anything about this pick until Nimmo puts on a uniform and plays. Therefore, I’m as excited as ever the Nimmo will turn into one of his idols—Ken Griffey, Jr. or Torii Hunter.
However, Georgia Tech lefty Jed Bradley was on the board at No. 13. Bradley has electric stuff and could have been on the fast track through the Mets minor league system. With Matt Harvey pitching well and Jenrry Mejia expected to eventually contribute at the big leagues, the Mets could have the makings of a solid 1-5 staff.
Unlike the NBA and NFL Drafts where some teams select players based on need, MLB teams usually take the best available player, since that player will have to be seasoned in the minors anyway. That’s why I won’t knock the Mets too much on this selection.
Nimmo is a good line drive hitter who can spray the ball in the gaps and might even develop some power. These skills can translate well to Citi Field.
Lots of luck to Nimmo as he embarks on hopefully a productive professional baseball career.
Note: The Milwaukee Brewers selected Texas righty Taylor Jungmann with the No. 12 pick—the pick right before the Mets. The Mets might have taken him if he was available.
About the Author: Jim Mancari
Jim Mancari hails from Massapequa, N.Y. He recently earned a Master's degree in Journalism at Hofstra University. He is a devout Mets fan and takes pride in his team, despite their lack of success over the last few years. Like all Mets fans, Jim has plenty of hope. He also writes as the sports reporter for the Brooklyn Tablet newspaper and the senior editor of metroBASEBALL Magazine. Click my name to view my personal website.
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I thought the Mets would take Guereri (can’t spell his name right LOL). He was the best available player on the board according to the MLB Network.
As you said Jim, MLB teams take guys who the best available on the board, and for the Mets to pick a guy like Nimmo who never played HS ball, is kindof a head scratcher.
THIS IS ALL MEANINGLESS UNLESS THE AUGUST ANSEWER TO THE INEVITABLE HEADLINE, WHERE’S NIMMO?
IS BROOKLYN!
UNTIL WEDETERMINE WHO SIGNS & WHO DOESN’T THIS DRAFT IS UNVALUAABLE.
He’d more likely go to Kingsport than Brooklyn
It is a very interesting pick. This is considered one of the deepest drafts in the past 5 to 10 years. It is especially deep in pitching, perhaps that is why they took a position player they liked?
Because in drafts you don’t take what you need; you take the player with the most upside.
Usually, these players take 3-4 years to reach the majors; we might not need pitching then
Very true. In 3-4 years, maybe the Mets will need an outfielder (God I hope so especially if Jason Bay is still around).
Why not draft a pitcher? Because people always say, “there is no such thing as a pitching prospect.” Assuming that’s true, then you go with position players.
Also this kid already has an Knee issues…
http://www.lonestarball.com/2011/6/3/2204916/2011-mlb-draft-prospects-preview-brandon-nimmo
That’s it!!! He was born to be a Met!!!
Nimmo will be less expensive and easier to sign. Awful. Welcome to your Kansas City Mets.
That’s 100% backwards and untrue. High school kids with full scholaships to college are harder and more expensive to sign. You have to buy out their commitment.
that, and the Royals are considered to have the best, totally loaded, farm system at the moment.
Thing is, Kansas City isn’t afraid to take someone who will be tough to sign. Use Luke Hochever and Bubba Starling as examples. Both have Boras as an agent. They just don’t have the dough to resign them. I would go more toward the Milwaukee Mets, or even the Seattle Mets. Or Oakland Raiders… Mets
I question whether Sandy Alderson really had as much say in this pick as we are led to believe. Its a typical Mets draftpick. I think a Wilpon was behind this 100%. Wilpon or Al Davis.
Afterall, Nimmo, as I read, didn’t gain popularity until people noticed he was SIMILAR to Bubba Starling. But that he’s less polished.
It was the opposite of the typical Mets pick. A high school kid with tremendous upside but will need a few years of polishing. And also has a full ride to one of the best baseball schools in the country.
The typical Mets pick is a college guy who will sign cheap because he wasn’t that highly touted and has nowhere to go after. Someone who will be ready to play on the big club faster, but is really just a role player.
hahahahahahahahaha…… look at this waylittle metsies…..you’ll get an extra pick next year for not signing this kid. Yeah, the new era of small money ball in the biggest stage in the word…new york city….. the joke’s on you little metsies. but now of course you deserve it.
Sounds like a Yankee troll!!! Well you would know about not signing a first round pick. The Skanks couldn’t sign their 1st rounder a little while back and he turned out to be none other than Gerrit Cole (in case you’re not aware the 1st overall pick in this years draft). They also gave up their first rounder this year for the incredible Mr. Soriano and were also nice enough to give us a sandwich pick for the incomprable Mr. Feliciano. So yeah the Skanks are really a model frnchise when it comes to scouting and the draft!!!
The YankMees saving grace is the lack of a International Draft. If that ever happens, the Skanks are S-C-R-E-W-E-D
Don’t forget they drafted Bauer who also bolted for college.
DePo/Alderson FAIL!
Know it alls behind a keyboard FAIL
I wanted Jed Bradley.
I don’t get this pick at all. We play in a ball park that is great for pitchers.
I’m hoping that Nimmo turns into one of those high average line drive hitters, in which case, the end result wouldn’t be too bad (and I do wish Nimmo the best) but…
I think this was a bad pick. Drafts are crapshoots, indeed. We could’ve taken a pitcher and he could have been a bust.
Nimmo was ranked 37 out of 200 in BA’s list, expected to go #33 to Texas, and has a 6’2 185 frame. I’m not excited.
Omar Minaya must be laughing his balls off. DepodesTOOL has a history of selecting GARBAGE! This kid played NO High School ball because his team didn’t have a baseball team. He played against the American Legion team in Wyoming. A redneck from the mountains of Wyoming is going to make it big in the Big Apple? On top of that, the gimp has knee issues already. In the most pitching rich draft in a LONG time, this Ivy League RET@ARD drafts this POS…SMH.
The Mets are a HEXED organization. There’s just NO other explanation for this type of out and out STUPIDITY….In my 25 years following baseball, I’ve NEVER heard of a teenager drafted in the 1st rd whose High School didn’t have a team! Unfukinbelievable..you can’t make it up!!!
Maybe we can bring Omar back if we beg and plead.
Then he can waste more money on has beens, and never was and double their contracts while he’s at it.
Where is Alou when we need, Franco, Tatis, Castillo?
i hated omar, but you probably one of those who got suckered in the “alderson is a genious, and we have a all star front office”
what has alderson done for you to think he’s the right man for the job? talk savvy to the media? gimme a break!!
His first act was to hire Ricciardi and DePodesta for more money than he pays the players. Poor Alderson, he couldn’t handle the job himself and had to hire his boys as helpers.
entire mets front office is worth more that the garbage he brought in last year, ohh and in case you’re wondering, he signed dickey to 8 million and hasn’t exactly panned out has it? so, he hasn’t spent wisely either
Stop, I’m begging, you are just making a fool of yourself.
Name me one GM that EVERY single move as worked out perfectly, go ahead I’m waiting. To kill the front office before they’ve had the job for 6 months just shows another idiot is born.
Just because I’m willing to give the guy a year or two to clean up the mess left behind does not mean I crown him a genius.
Give me a break and grow up.
Maybe not drafted but extremely few of the international amateurs signed at 16 from Panama, Colombia, Venezuela and the DR played high school ball and players from those countries can be found at the top of the leader boards in every category.
He’s not the guy I would have selected but he was highly regarded by scouts across the country, received a scholorship to an SEC school and was no moneyball type choice.
Strictly a scouting projection and an overslot selection.
Back in 2005 we took Pelfrey, a safe well developed college pitcher, at #9 of the first round and passed up much better HS talent that was drafted behind him like Andrew McCutchen, Colby Rasmus, Jay Bruce and perhaps Cameron Maybin.
I liked Bradley at #13 but I wish to hell we had taken McCutchen instead of Pelfrey.
The draft is a real crapshoot. Wish we had more picks and could take even more chances and I really hope the budget is huge for the international signing period coming up in July.
Just a couple of inaccuracies that need to be cleared up. I think Andy Van Slyke was a 1st round pick of the St. Louis Cardinals. The interesting thing about the Van Slyke pick was that he did not play baseball is senior year because of a broken wrist. Frankly if this kid can play centerfold like Van Slyke I’m happy.
The kids swing looks very compact and together, no loosey-goosey stuff you normally see with young left handed power hitters. Looks to be more of a line drive/gap doubles machine. No Carlos Beltran to be sure but definitely more power production than Lee Mazzilli.
Was Mazzilli a 1st round pick? Hmm…. I think so…?
Anyway, supposedly he has plus to plus+ speed whatever that means. Faster than average but no Lance Johnson. haha. who the F! Knows how this will turn out its all a crab shoot anyway. I did read the the kid had a torn acl last year and then tendonitis in the knee this spring.
So to recap. we got ourselves an inexperienced but talented 6’2 185lb outfielder who projects to be no Carlos Beltran but better than Herm Wilingham. Oh, and the kid has told all major leagues team prior to the draft that he will not sign for less than 3 million dollars. Shhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiite.. if only I got the bat off my shoulder in little league.
But if you were to draft an outforider for CitiField this kid would be it. Lots and lots of gap power with very good speed. Strong arm along with plus speed to go get balls in the gap.
Shrugs. just trying to look at the bright side. Hopefully in 3-4 years we will see….
ss Reyes
2b Tedja
3b Wright
1b Davis
LF Bay
CF Nimmo
Rf Duda
C Thole
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Actually, Fmart will be in left Nimmo in center and we will resign Beltran and together they will form the All Arthritic knee outfield. Bay will be somewhere in Canada of retiring early due to his complete loss of power.
Mostly Bay retires out of embarrassment.
Hhaa. at least your playing along. But as long as we’re dreaming…. we do need a solid closer for our two 20 game winners Niese and Pelfrey.
I hear Jessie Orosco has been working out lol
Niese and Gee… get it right. LOL Pelfrey will never amount to anything. Take fellow WSU alum Darrin Dreifort for example. Gene Stevenson (WSU’s coach) overuses his pitchers and runs them into the ground. Name one pitcher from Wichita State that amounted to anything as a pro.
I just do not understand this pick what so ever. Not when a college pitcher with good stuff was available. This kid will probably not even sign! He has a bad leg, and very little experience. All the makings of a bust!
Mark, your not Ivy League educated like some people. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Your grasping at straws trying to understand, it’s beyond the comprehension of us “normal people.”
You would be correct but, I’ve dated enough Ivy League women to know, vy Leaguers make mistakes too. lol
Maybe, just maybe, it has something to do with the fact that they are IN the business, while you are just behind a keyboard pretending to be a Monday Morning GM?
Just a guess………
Nimmo sent a letter out to teams this past week saying it was going to take at least 3 mill to sign him. So the Mets certainly didn’t go cheap with this pick.
And everyone above is correct. You don’t draft based on need in MLB. Almost all kids College or HS take a few years in the minors. You take best available. A good pick for us considering that with Minaya we often went with lesser talent but less risk. Minaya wanted guys he thought he could fast track to the majors, which is the wrong way to draft.
Just look at the selection of Mike Pelfrey ahead of HS hitters Andrew McCutchen and Jay Bruce.
Especially in the first few rounds. You take players with the highest upside. Yes there may have been college arms available but if they only project as # 3 starters down the road, it’s not worth it. Certainly not in the first few rounds.
A potential impact bat is much more valuable than a mid rotation starter. I heard one scout describe him as a “left handed Hunter Pence”.
Hey, I was available in the 1st Round. My phone didn’t ring, isn’t “..my potential impact worth more than a mid rotation starter..”
And everyone above is correct. You don’t draft based on need in MLB. Almost all kids College or HS take a few years in the minors. You take best available.
So why did we take the 36th ranked prospect instead of the 13th best available player?
because the 36th rank supposedly has the highest ceiling.
I disagree with the pick, but I see the reasoning.
Ceiling? How is that defined and quantified? And just how is this guy’s ceiling higher than any of the others?
Quantified? Don’t think it is. Unless you want to say what stats you think he is capable of.
Ceiling is defined as the highest point a player can go. The absolute best he can do. Nimmo is predicted to have the 3rd highest ceiling in the draft this year.
He’s predicted to have a higher ceiling than others based on several factors, mainly what skills and attributes he’s demonstrated. Nimmo is scouted to have extraordinary presence in the strike zone and a very good swing that produces lots of line drives. He also has ++ speed and a good arm. I don’t know how well he plays center filed, but he has the physical attributes.
The knee thing is certainly a concern, but he had it 2 years ago and he’s been playing really well in bitter cold weather since then. Baseball and football. It seems to be OK.
The reality is, the Mets and most teams won’t have a real idea of what they got for another 3 years. This isn’t the NBA or NFL. These kids aren’t (or shouldn’t be) expected to be on the big club right away.
Is this a safe pick? Hell no. And thank goodness. We’ve had plenty of those.
Nimmo and Fulmer may be complete busts. That’s the risk you run. But what if they produce at even half their expectations for the Mets? That’s an everyday CF and #2 or 3 starter. That’s the ceiling for some of the guys picked last night. If they hit 75% of their of their ceilings, then we’ve got perennial All Star candidates.
I don’t agree with the picks, but I like the reasoning behind them.
Fortuna audaces iuvat
Well said Donal. I feel the same way, not really in favor of the pick but defintely in favor of the thought process behind the pick.
I’m tired of all these mediocre lower ceiling “safe” choices we always pick. They bust at the same rate as the HS player and give you half of what the HS player does when they don’t.
Aaron Heilman was the “safe” choice at #18 of the first round. Wright the riskier choice at #38 of that same first round. Pelfrey the “safer” choice over HS position players like McCutchen, Rasmus, Bruce.
The players who have played the best in the Majors that we have signed or drafted were all HS or 16-17 year old amateurs. Wright, Reyes, Alfonzo, Kazmir, Pagan, Niese. Only Davis came from college.
I’d rather take a chance on a riskier selection with a greater upside than settle for another Heilman or Pelfrey and many of those types bust too or haven’t you noticed?
Mets Drafted a RHP High School Kid who has committed to college already. Michael Fuller, throws over 90 and supposedly has a nasty curveball and a decent change up. He ranked 27 in Base America’s top 100 high school players.
So our later pick actually ranked higher than our first pick?
Actually they had Nimmo ranked 7th amongst his high school peers.
I wouldn’t worry too much about the rankings. Not when the difference is 10-20 picks. Generally speaking, as long as the kid is ranked in the top 100, then he’s got major league talent. The question then is development, makeup, health ect…..
And BA, the best in the biz at covering amateurs, likes the pick a lot. I’ll post what they said in a minute.
And if it’s any consolation, the Rays were supposedly in love with NImmo. And theyv’e been the best in baseball at drafting the past 5 years.
If Michael Fuller opts to play college ball we lose our rights to him???
How does that work?
The college commitment is meaningless. Almost all HS kids have some college commitment going into the draft. What usually is done is the kid and his family say, “we want x amount of dollars or he’s going to college.”
Teams usually have a good idea before hand what the kid wants dollar wise and they draft accordingly. Meaning they think they have a good chance to sign him.
And yes, if he goes to college then we lose his rights. But as previously stated, Teams do their homework on kids, and generally have a good idea what it will take to sign him.
In the later rounds you’ll see kids opt for college because the $$$ don’t match up. But I would not worry at all about the Mets ability to sign these 2 picks.
makes sense what Gregg says
From ESPN
“Nimmo is a high-upside play here and a refreshing pick for the Mets. He’s a good athlete and could hit for plus power down the road, but his left-handed bat profiles to play in a corner outfield spot, where his arm fits, too. Nimmo brings a good work ethic to the table and he squares up fastballs regularly. His lack of competition — his high school does not have a team — made it difficult for him to get seen by scouts, but he’s found a way to get noticed, including an impressive display on the showcase circuit last summer.”
From BA
“Simply getting drafted out of Wyoming is an accomplishment in itself—the state does not have high school baseball and has produced just two draft picks the past decade. Nimmo should become the state’s highest pick ever. With a lean, 6-foot-3 frame with projection remaining, he’s a good athlete and one of the best sprinters in the state. He tore his right ACL playing football during his junior year in 2009 and spent most of last summer playing with a brace on his knee. He’s an above-average runner when he’s healthy, which helps him on the basepaths and in center field, and there’s more to his game than just speed. Nimmo has a pretty, efficient lefthanded swing. He’s short to the ball and has outstanding barrel awareness, consistently squaring balls up and shooting line drives to all fields. He has a good eye at the plate and should be an above-average hitter. As he gets stronger, he could add loft to his swing to turn doubles into home runs. Nimmo worked out for teams in Arizona this spring and had some tendinitis in his knee. His American Legion team started playing in mid-April and their schedule goes right up to the signing deadline, and he has an Arkansas commitment to fall back on. The team that drafts him will likely follow him throughout the summer and make a call at the deadline.”
Why Nimmo And Not A Pitcher?”
because the mets front office is full of idiots… btw, nimmo has knee issues already.. good luck
We drafted a OF’er with a torn ACL. ROFLMAO.
lol, only the mets eh? this front office “genious” are way in over their head, but the reason is mets fans fell in love with this “all star” crew w/o having done a single thing for this franchise…
Seriously, anybody who decides the value of the 2011 MLB Draft after last night, or tonight etc is just looking for a reason to either falsely praise or falsely complain.
There is no Strasburg, David Price, or Bryce Harper in this draft. It’s not like there is a superstar can’t miss guy. These are amateur players who will need at least 3 years to develop into anything worth discussing for the most part.
So just sit back, relax. Read reports about the type of player they are now, and about the type of player the Mets hope the kid(s) will become and judge them after the development has begun.
ok jesseP, we’ll see i guess in 3 years.. remmeber, 3 years ago you also said david wright was clutch and i proved you wrong, just as with perez, castillo and pelfrey.. but i won’t take credit for that, just saying i’ve been right, and you’ve been wrong.. as always
alex: You proved me wrong? David Wright isn’t clutch but he isn’t as “unclutch” as you make him out to be. You have to first define what clutch is. If a game ends 1-0 and Wright hits a solo HR in the 2nd inning, is that a clutch at bat? It won the game… so why doesn’t it count?
I don’t need to get into this with you. Who are some clutch hitters on the Reds? The Cubs? The Nats?
You don’t know for certain because you don’t watch their games. Clutch is in the eye of the fan, not in actual performance. It’s what you deem important, not what a player or team does. That’s why I don’t buy into it.
And again, discussing the ammy draft like you have any clue is a joke. And I don’t mean you as in only you. I mean when you get down to it, the baseball draft is the biggest gamble of any draft in sports. And to try and discuss it and have a “strong” opinion one way or the other is ridiculous to me.
ok jesse P, is obvious you STILL don’t watch the games if you still think david wright doesn’t get tight in pressure situations…
and you were defending perez and castillo, so yes, i proved you wrong!!!!
and about the draft, you know as much as i do, so there’s no point on discussing this with you, you have your opinion n i have mine, or what? just beacuse you call mike francesa and got on the air is supposed to make you feel smarter than me?
what are you talking about? I’m smarter than you because you think the Mariners would trade King Felix for David Wright and Cory Vaughn.
Not because I called Francesa to get clarification on his Reyes story a few weeks ago?
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when did i say that???? i said a package that includes david wright, pelfrey, AND prospects… is an idea, a fantasy you know..
unlike you who defended oliver perez with teeth and claws and applaud omar for his signing because perez had “upside”.. please..
Yeah it’s a fantasy of some GM not named Sandy I suppose…
Wright is tradeable granted….
But thats because he is no where near the player you describe him to be!
are you jesseP???
Nope!
Don’t fib alex. You know you said Wright and Vaughn for King felix.
And guess what… Wright, Pelfrey and whatever prospect you got for King Felix STILL is a dumb idea. It makes 0 sense, yet you harp on it and think it makes you look smart.
Tell me why Seattle makes that deal. How do they sell to their fan base the fact they got a worse starting pitcher who is older and due for a contract sooner, and a 28 yr old 3B who has been in sharp decline and is due for a contract sooner than Felix?
Felix is young, he’s signed to a contract and he’s their franchise right now. They aren’t giving him away for a starter with no mental control and a 3B who is clearly not the player he was 4 years ago.
Nimmo the next Strawberry!!!
I see a lot of people saying you don’t draft for need but the more correct statement is you don’t draft for IMMEDIATE need.
You do however take your current signed contracts into consideration to figure out what you might need in 4 or 5 years to replace because someone’s contract will be running out.
And no matter what you think about DePo or the Idea of drafting for need, you almost have to say this pick WAS based in immediate need.
The most disappointing and soon to need replacing positions all lay in the OF!
Bay is not living up to his contract,
Beltran is about to go.
Pagan is still trying to convince everyone that last year was a trend not a fluke. Hairston and Harris and been non entities to winning and Harris has even been the gremlin in the works that cost us one or two with his glove.
Duda has already failed once this season when he got his shot, Evans is getting his right now.
F-Mart is trying to prove he can stay healthy long enough to make it a month on the ML roster and when he has he hasn’t perfromed.
So if you ask me (and I have no opinion on if it is a good pick or not) we drafted TOTALLY based on immediate need.
Which tends to say to me they probably didn’t really think this through as thoroughly as they probably should have and time will tell if they did!
I will say this though…For those of you who were pissed at Omar for rushing prospects get ready for it in Spades!
If we are going to draft for immediate need we are probably going to promote based on immediate need as well.
We will see what happens and how it turns out.
Oh someone else here said that none of the pitchers were like Straussboug and I agree. None are projected as Cy Young, and sometimes when the draft is rich in one position it makes a lot of sense to go after the other position players.
If everyone else is focused on the pitching then a pretty good positional player is probably getting overlooked. You can get a much better EVERYDAY player than normal because everyone is focused on that 1 win every 5!
So in this case going against the grain isn’t such a lark as it might sound.
I just hope whoever they pick turns out to be good cause if not then we are probably going to be worse off in 4 years than we are now!
They had 10 different scouts watch him play.
And if this was a choice based on need, why was it a kid at least 3 years away?
I didn’t say it was a good choice to fill that need, but if you look at what we need what did they take with their first two picks?
OF and Pitching…Stuff we need right now!
So no matter what you think they intend to do with him or how long they plan of taking to develop him the bottomline is they picked a guy who will fill a need we have right now!
Risky because in the meantime you are going to have to find someone to fill the spot until he is ready which means by the time he is ready there might not be a place to play him!
Since the need exists now it will probably exist next season as well. And who is to say they won’t jump him up from AA or skip AA ball entirely to get that extra year to go away and bring him up sooner?
Then people will say what have you got to lose?
But the fact remains they took a player that plays a position we need right now!
Time will tell if he fills it or not. But their priority seems to be in the only two positions we need. It makes some sense when you look at our infield.
Wright Reyes Davis and some combo of Murphy and Turner at 2B!
At least the first three are probably going to be here by the time this pick is ready. Will Bay beltran and Pagan?
So yes this pick and the following pick were all based on IMMEDIATE NEED! Despite the fact that no one actually expects them to fill it anytime soon!
“OF and Pitching…Stuff we need right now!”
You always need pitching. Always. Even the Phillies want to strengthen their pitching. That doesn’t mean any kid selected this week is going to the big club anytime soon.
And we don’t need a CF next season. We have some guys who can at least hold the fort for a few seasons.
I doubt we’ll see these guys in Buffalo the day after they sign (if they sign)
You can keep trying to change the subject to WHEN they will contribute.
But the point remains they didn’t take a SS they didn’t take a 1B they didn’t take a 3B they took an OF and a Pitcher which we need RIGHT NOW!
SO even by the wildest stretch of any imagination and subterfuge you can try to get away from the fact…
The FACT is they took an OF which we need two of at least and a pitcher which is the only other weak spot on this team!
No, I’m not changing the subject. You’re trying to say that we need them right now as if we couldn’t possibly be thinking of the future.
Nimmo had the second highest upside of any player on the board. The other was Bell, who sent the letter about him going to Texas, so there was no point in drafting him.
You assume just because Jason Bay is playing horribly and Beltran will most likely be traded that Nimmo is being set up to play with the big club tomorrow. There is nothing to lead you to that conclusion. We’ve got 2 guys that can play the outfield in Buffalo and a few more at other places on the farm. All of them are ahead of Nimmo.
The fact is, this was a move to get more top notch talent in the farm, not to plug a hole on the big club.
ok in 4 years they will contribute right?
Well if we need that position now and find it in the next 4 years will that player contribute?
NO!
You can try and claim they didn’t pick based on immediate needs but the picks they took are all in positions of immediate need.
And that is usually a mistake because by the time they develop you have usually filled that need by then!
I know you have a vested interest in making this draft to be good but you don’t know it is and neither do I…
But to try and say these guys were not picked based on need is just semantical bull because they all play the positions we need right now!
They didn’t even look for a SS and 1B until the later rounds Why?
Because we still have guys to fill those spot in spades right now!
The fact of WHEN they come up doesn’t matter, the fact of WHERE they will play when they do is!
And they will all play positions we need right now!
“ok in 4 years they will contribute right?”
Hopefully, yes
“Well if we need that position now and find it in the next 4 years will that player contribute?
NO!”
Perhaps. Its a good thing to be over stocked at a position. If Nimmo shows himself to be a quality CF, then we can promote him and trade whoever we have there or trade Nimmo himself.
And thats assuming they can sign Nimmo.
“You can try and claim they didn’t pick based on immediate needs but the picks they took are all in positions of immediate need.”
Not at all. Everyone drafts pitching because you will always need pitching.
And there 4 guys who can currently play CF, 3 on the big club and 1 in Buffalo
“They didn’t even look for a SS and 1B until the later rounds Why?
Because we still have guys to fill those spot in spades right now!”
Or because there were no really attractive 1Bs and next year is supposed to have some really good SS prospects?
“The fact of WHEN they come up doesn’t matter, the fact of WHERE they will play when they do is!”
Actually, they both are pretty important.
“And they will all play positions we need right now!”
So everyone who drafted a pitcher high yesterday is going to promote him right away?
2011 Instructional, 2012 Appalachain, 2013 Savannah, 2014 Fl St., 2015 Eastern, 2016 International if things go the way we hope (or the way those without an agenda against the Mets hope)
The whole key is to get a whole bunch of talented kids from every source especially the IFA market, develop them with patience and purpose and let them sort themselves out.
Some will be stars, some will be average starter, some will be bench players, some will get traded and some will washout.
The more high ceiling talent you have the more chance of having eight top shelf talented regulars taking the field all at the same time every day.
You have to give credit to the scout for fining Nimmo.
s/b Finding Nimmo