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	<title>Comments on: What About A Jason Bay for Adam Dunn Swap?</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/06/what-about-a-jason-bay-for-adam-dunn-swap.html#comment-159657</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would do the trade. Dunn has had success in the national league and Bay has had success in the american league. You could play Dunn 7 or 8 innings then make a defensive switch with Duda, Pridie or whomever. Look into it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would do the trade. Dunn has had success in the national league and Bay has had success in the american league. You could play Dunn 7 or 8 innings then make a defensive switch with Duda, Pridie or whomever. Look into it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dunn=Dave Kingman 2011]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunn=Dave Kingman 2011</p>
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		<title>By: Greg From Brooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg From Brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d do it in a heartbeat.
Bay is a cool dude...but he sucks as a Met.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d do it in a heartbeat.<br />
Bay is a cool dude&#8230;but he sucks as a Met.</p>
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		<title>By: gary s.</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 04:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not a terrible idea, but i&#039;m kind of hoping Jason K gets abducted by aliens]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a terrible idea, but i&#8217;m kind of hoping Jason K gets abducted by aliens</p>
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		<title>By: jdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 18:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember those.  I agreed with them at the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember those.  I agreed with them at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 17:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m ready for all of your insults, but I believe Bay&quot;

russell, i like you, but i stopped reading after that ... lol..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m ready for all of your insults, but I believe Bay&#8221;</p>
<p>russell, i like you, but i stopped reading after that &#8230; lol..</p>
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		<title>By: t agee</title>
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		<dc:creator>t agee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bay will be platooned (by merit) at that point so he doesn&#039;t attain 500 AB&#039;s.

     Veteran&#039;s also can demand trades, if their traded in the middle of a multi year contract so there&#039;s that and no way Dunn can be put in LF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bay will be platooned (by merit) at that point so he doesn&#8217;t attain 500 AB&#8217;s.</p>
<p>     Veteran&#8217;s also can demand trades, if their traded in the middle of a multi year contract so there&#8217;s that and no way Dunn can be put in LF.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course this trade makes sense for the Mets...however, the White Sox would be idiots if they made this trade.  Adam Dunn may be hitting only .176, but he is a career .248 hitter who in the past 7 seasons has hit 46, 40, 40, 40, 40, 38, and 38 HR&#039;s.  He is a strikeout machine who hits bombs...his power will come around, and he will probably end up batting around .220 this season.  Bay on the other hand, is coming off a terrible season and following it up with a terrible season.  He makes more money than Dunn, and his potential to come out of his 2 season long funk seems less likely than Dunn coming out of his 2 month funk.  By the way, for all of you sabreheards...Bay is batting 36 points higher than Dunn...but his OBP is 6 points lower than Dunn...so at the moment, at least Dunn still frightens pitchers enough to pitch around him...no one is scared of Bay.  Great move for the Mets...terrible move for the White Sox...not going to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course this trade makes sense for the Mets&#8230;however, the White Sox would be idiots if they made this trade.  Adam Dunn may be hitting only .176, but he is a career .248 hitter who in the past 7 seasons has hit 46, 40, 40, 40, 40, 38, and 38 HR&#8217;s.  He is a strikeout machine who hits bombs&#8230;his power will come around, and he will probably end up batting around .220 this season.  Bay on the other hand, is coming off a terrible season and following it up with a terrible season.  He makes more money than Dunn, and his potential to come out of his 2 season long funk seems less likely than Dunn coming out of his 2 month funk.  By the way, for all of you sabreheards&#8230;Bay is batting 36 points higher than Dunn&#8230;but his OBP is 6 points lower than Dunn&#8230;so at the moment, at least Dunn still frightens pitchers enough to pitch around him&#8230;no one is scared of Bay.  Great move for the Mets&#8230;terrible move for the White Sox&#8230;not going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Hodges14</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hodges14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you look around baseball now, you see a lot of grotesquely bad contracts and there are some things that you will find about each one of them.

Firstly, a lot of them belong to the Mets and Cubs.
Secondly, for every bad contract there is another team with an equally bad contract.

So I never want to hear someone say &quot;It is an unmovable contract. He can&#039;t be dealt.&quot;

Nonsense! Anyone can be dealt. You want proof? The Cubs found a taker for Milton Bradley!
What you need to do with your awful contract is find someone else who is as stupid as you and swap out your trash.

And after you trade one awful contract for another, hope for one more thing: That a change of scenery is what they needed.

Obviously anyone signed to a big contract must have a little talent. Yes, even Kei Igawa.
And sometimes they just can&#039;t find their groove in one place but catch fire somewhere else.

Remember how Jose Contreras looked lost and overwhelmed with the Yankees?
The same guy became a front line pitcher for the 2005 World Champion White Sox, throwing a complete game victory to clinch the pennant.

Remember how Jeff Weaver looked as confident as Beaker in The Muppet Show while pitching for the Yankees and Angels? But the same year he was let go by Los Angeles of Anaheim, he became a World Series hero for the Cardinals.

In each of the last three decades there was a player who was considered damaged goods and either cut or put in a salary dump that went on to become a World Series MVP. (Dave Stewart, Scott Brosius and Mike Lowell.)


So make some swaps!

What do you think the Reds were thinking they&#039;d get out of Josh Hamilton after he flamed out of Tampa?
You think the Phillies thought they picked up a player worth $126 million when they gave Jayson Werth a shot after his wrist surgery?

So let&#039;s line up some bad contracts and see what kind of deals we can make.

I&#039;ll try to trade bad contract for bad contract as close to dollar for dollar as I can. (The clubs could work out the cash details.)

And sometimes I am having a team take on more money up front to get out of a bad long term deal.

So let&#039;s make some deals.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/trading-those-untradable-contracts/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you look around baseball now, you see a lot of grotesquely bad contracts and there are some things that you will find about each one of them.</p>
<p>Firstly, a lot of them belong to the Mets and Cubs.<br />
Secondly, for every bad contract there is another team with an equally bad contract.</p>
<p>So I never want to hear someone say &#8220;It is an unmovable contract. He can&#8217;t be dealt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nonsense! Anyone can be dealt. You want proof? The Cubs found a taker for Milton Bradley!<br />
What you need to do with your awful contract is find someone else who is as stupid as you and swap out your trash.</p>
<p>And after you trade one awful contract for another, hope for one more thing: That a change of scenery is what they needed.</p>
<p>Obviously anyone signed to a big contract must have a little talent. Yes, even Kei Igawa.<br />
And sometimes they just can&#8217;t find their groove in one place but catch fire somewhere else.</p>
<p>Remember how Jose Contreras looked lost and overwhelmed with the Yankees?<br />
The same guy became a front line pitcher for the 2005 World Champion White Sox, throwing a complete game victory to clinch the pennant.</p>
<p>Remember how Jeff Weaver looked as confident as Beaker in The Muppet Show while pitching for the Yankees and Angels? But the same year he was let go by Los Angeles of Anaheim, he became a World Series hero for the Cardinals.</p>
<p>In each of the last three decades there was a player who was considered damaged goods and either cut or put in a salary dump that went on to become a World Series MVP. (Dave Stewart, Scott Brosius and Mike Lowell.)</p>
<p>So make some swaps!</p>
<p>What do you think the Reds were thinking they&#8217;d get out of Josh Hamilton after he flamed out of Tampa?<br />
You think the Phillies thought they picked up a player worth $126 million when they gave Jayson Werth a shot after his wrist surgery?</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s line up some bad contracts and see what kind of deals we can make.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to trade bad contract for bad contract as close to dollar for dollar as I can. (The clubs could work out the cash details.)</p>
<p>And sometimes I am having a team take on more money up front to get out of a bad long term deal.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s make some deals.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/trading-those-untradable-contracts/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/trading-those-untradable-contracts/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Russell Zanca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Zanca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m ready for all of your insults, but I believe Bay is going to make himself a worthy Met in all of your eyes before long. He is spooked now, but he is going to turn it around.

Dunn would be an oafish nightmare. The HRs wouldn&#039;t compensate for all of the other ways in which he sucks, including, purportedly, his not very good clubhouse attitude.

Try to be a little more patient w/ Bay despite how idiotic that may sound.

Right now I also agree completely that he sucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m ready for all of your insults, but I believe Bay is going to make himself a worthy Met in all of your eyes before long. He is spooked now, but he is going to turn it around.</p>
<p>Dunn would be an oafish nightmare. The HRs wouldn&#8217;t compensate for all of the other ways in which he sucks, including, purportedly, his not very good clubhouse attitude.</p>
<p>Try to be a little more patient w/ Bay despite how idiotic that may sound.</p>
<p>Right now I also agree completely that he sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Swapping problems is not the answer. All your doing is trading your headache for someone else&#039;s!

No agree to pay half his salary and get some kid for him.
You can at least trade that kid later for something else.

get Dunn and your done just paying another contract you can&#039;t unload!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swapping problems is not the answer. All your doing is trading your headache for someone else&#8217;s!</p>
<p>No agree to pay half his salary and get some kid for him.<br />
You can at least trade that kid later for something else.</p>
<p>get Dunn and your done just paying another contract you can&#8217;t unload!</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bay has the vesting option. 500 PAs is not hard to get for a starting LF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bay has the vesting option. 500 PAs is not hard to get for a starting LF.</p>
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		<title>By: 86mets</title>
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		<dc:creator>86mets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At first blush this seems a bad idea: Dunn has no range in the OF, his BA and OPS are WORSE than Bay&#039;s.  However, consider this: while Ike Davis is out he can play 1B allowing Daniel Murphy to play 3B (okay, not the greatest defensive alignment I admit) with Pridie playing LF.  Also, LH power hitters fare much better in Citi Field than RH power hitters giving some hope that returning to the NL could also help Dunn.  

But then, there is this: Dunn will have 3 years remaining on his contract while Bay only 2.  If Dunn hits .220 with the Mets with 20 HR this rest of the year he will become a worse impediment to team finances in the long run.  Then, there is the Dunn-Riciardi fiasco of a couple years ago.  While Dunn may say he&#039;s moved on, would he approve a trade to a team where this man is employed?  Then again, there was the Carlos Delgado/Tony Bernazard thing that happened just before Delgado signed with the Marlins and he ended up with the Mets and Bernazard the next season.  So it could work.  

In the end, the ? is, is this a gamble worth taking?  Bay could find his power in the friendly confines of Chicago&#039;s small park while Dunn may be more comfortable back in the NL.  At the end of the day it may come down to the age old adage of &quot;what do you have to lose?&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first blush this seems a bad idea: Dunn has no range in the OF, his BA and OPS are WORSE than Bay&#8217;s.  However, consider this: while Ike Davis is out he can play 1B allowing Daniel Murphy to play 3B (okay, not the greatest defensive alignment I admit) with Pridie playing LF.  Also, LH power hitters fare much better in Citi Field than RH power hitters giving some hope that returning to the NL could also help Dunn.  </p>
<p>But then, there is this: Dunn will have 3 years remaining on his contract while Bay only 2.  If Dunn hits .220 with the Mets with 20 HR this rest of the year he will become a worse impediment to team finances in the long run.  Then, there is the Dunn-Riciardi fiasco of a couple years ago.  While Dunn may say he&#8217;s moved on, would he approve a trade to a team where this man is employed?  Then again, there was the Carlos Delgado/Tony Bernazard thing that happened just before Delgado signed with the Marlins and he ended up with the Mets and Bernazard the next season.  So it could work.  </p>
<p>In the end, the ? is, is this a gamble worth taking?  Bay could find his power in the friendly confines of Chicago&#8217;s small park while Dunn may be more comfortable back in the NL.  At the end of the day it may come down to the age old adage of &#8220;what do you have to lose?&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya, Ricciardi made some not so nice comments about Dunn&#039;s commitment and it got weird.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, Ricciardi made some not so nice comments about Dunn&#8217;s commitment and it got weird.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate Adam Dunn, plus didnt him and Ricciardi have it out or something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate Adam Dunn, plus didnt him and Ricciardi have it out or something?</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 16:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much longer, Alan?  Bay&#039;s played 133 games as a Met.  That&#039;s nearly a full season.  He&#039;s hitting 245/.336/.369.  How much longer do we wait before we try something else?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much longer, Alan?  Bay&#8217;s played 133 games as a Met.  That&#8217;s nearly a full season.  He&#8217;s hitting 245/.336/.369.  How much longer do we wait before we try something else?</p>
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		<title>By: alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[garbage for garbage..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>garbage for garbage..</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a bad idea.....Adam Dunn despite tremendous power is not what the Mets need. He is slow and a poor fielder. Jason Bay has always been a run producer but has struggled trying to live up to his contract. He may need to sit for a week but eventually he should come around at the plate. At that point he would be a much better all around player than Dunn could ever be......We are better off being patient a bit longer!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bad idea&#8230;..Adam Dunn despite tremendous power is not what the Mets need. He is slow and a poor fielder. Jason Bay has always been a run producer but has struggled trying to live up to his contract. He may need to sit for a week but eventually he should come around at the plate. At that point he would be a much better all around player than Dunn could ever be&#8230;&#8230;We are better off being patient a bit longer!</p>
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		<title>By: jdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[strike that second &quot;called&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>strike that second &#8220;called&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stink for stink.  But Dunn will walk more and the size of the field means nothing to him.  Takes too many called third strikes, unlike Bay, who swings and misses at too many called third strikes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stink for stink.  But Dunn will walk more and the size of the field means nothing to him.  Takes too many called third strikes, unlike Bay, who swings and misses at too many called third strikes.</p>
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