Look up Davey Johnson’s managerial stats, they are extremely impressive. 14 years, 1 or 2nd 12 of those years. He’s pretty much won everywhere he’s been.

Terry Collins has done a fine job this year, but I still wish we would’ve at least talked to Davey when we were looking at managers…

Why would he show up to the 25th anniversary when he didn’t even bother to show up to celebrate the 20th anniversary? Doesn’t the Wilpons hate Davey? Maybe that’s why he was never considered.

Good luck to Davey…just not against us.

He actually didn’t leave because they wouldn’t pick up his option. He left because they wouldn’t even TALK to him about it. There’s a difference. One is respectful, the other is not.

Are you telling me that if you went to work every day and knew there may be changes in the company soon and your employer REFUSED to talk to you about whether you’ll have a job that you’d stay?

Riggelman was a filler Manager, somebody who isn’t flashy and can fill a uniform for the team while they wait for their big splash with Stras/Harper etc. They clearly had no intention of bringing him back in 2012.

Extreme? Outlandish? Why don’t you go look those words up and get back to me?

“So now firing a bad underperforming manager in midseason is the same as a manager just up and leaving in the middle of a contract and leaving his players hanging?”

No, I’m asking if it’s different. any actually gave a reasonable reply.

“The employer always has the right to fire a terrible manager. And a manger has the right to quit. But in Riggleman’s case he left because he wanted the team to pick up his option. IT’S AN OPTION! HE SIGNED THE DEAL THAT WAY!”

So, the employer can break the deal when it turns unfavorable to them, but the employee can’t?

“IF HE WANTED A GUARANTEED 2-YEAR DEAL THAN HE SHOULDN’T HAVE SAID YES TO THIS DEAL!”

He was trying to get a better deal and was completely stone walled by his bosses. Not denied, they even refused to see him.

you seem to have a complacent with what’s given to you and say thank you, you gotta be good at what you do, have leverage and be a shark about certain things.. i am glad he quit..

The employer always has the right to fire a terrible manager. And a manger has the right to quit. But in Riggleman’s case he left because he wanted the team to pick up his option. IT’S AN OPTION! HE SIGNED THE DEAL THAT WAY!

IF HE WANTED A GUARANTEED 2-YEAR DEAL THAN HE SHOULDN’T HAVE SAID YES TO THIS DEAL!

every team is probably going to win a certain # of games and lose a certain # each year, whether the best manager ever or some random guy plucked out of the stands manages those games. It is what the manager does in the rest of the games that decides if he is good or bad, and that has to be a subjective evaluation for team management (GM, etc).

But, the floor number is going to be higher for some teams, so winning 80 with the Pirates is more impressive than winning 90 with the Phils.

Joe Torre was considered “clueless Joe” until he was blessed with managing one of the greatest dynasties in all of baseball history.

Riggleman is a good team away from becoming “that guy”. What was stupid of him was that it could have been these Nationals but he bailed because of his option

The team has the option to pick it up or not. I don’t know if the option was for more than 2012 or not but assuming it was just a 1 year option what if they did pick up his option for 2012? Next year he would be right back managing but this time with no option beyond 2012. What was he going to do next year? Quit cause he now wanted a extension before the end of the season?

I just think there has to be more we don’t know cause to quit midseason like he did on the basis he did just doesnt seem like the professional way to go about it.

I would think he would just finish his season he agreed to already contractually and move on at the end. Heck he was half way through already.

He has the potential to become a great manager and this Nats club could have been his shining moment. But he came off a bit paranoid in my opinion.