Comments on: MMO Final 2011 Mets Draft Probables

By: Metsfanatic

Metsfanatic — Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:19:06 +0000

Mets primary need was an imoact bat to replace Beltran / Bay a few years from now. Mets OF prospects are mainly 4th outfielders and or 1B. Nimmo and then picking a lot of solid arms was a great strategy.

By: jessep

jessep — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:45:23 +0000

I bet some people think when they show the Mets draft room they will just show Paul DePodesta in a dark room with a single light bulb over his head, with a bright computer monitor and a laser jet printer in the background.

And then he’ll yell

“I got it!”

By: Will

Will — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:34:41 +0000

How did u miss nimmo..lol no hs baseball…I guess pitching does not win championships…keep bowing to your front office of over priced clueless wilpon hires

By: jessep

jessep — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 00:31:25 +0000

Bud Selig: “Tonight the New York Mets select Bayonne Mets Fan”

No… no they don’t.

I just hope I don’t hear/read people try to pretend like they know anything about this draft tomorrow. It’s such a crapshoot, and it all depends on who is in the minor league development system.

By: happy little metsies

happy little metsies — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:13:16 +0000

How exciting that all the nasty little metsie fans will have a new guy to think is just the next ty cobb pete rose and babe ruth all rolled int oone and then someday sooner rather than later you all will come to hate him and boo him and make him despise the metsie uniform you all so disrespect. pity the poor soul drafted by the metsies.

By: t agee

t agee — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 12:20:28 +0000

BTW Miller is going to be given every chance by the Red Sox to see if he can straighten out his control problems. Miller was promoted too quickly by Detroit. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he gets up here this year or next.

By: t agee

t agee — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 12:08:09 +0000

Thanks Barry. Appreciate it.

By: bk

bk — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 05:38:07 +0000

Just don’t take a pitcher out of Wichita State…Their coach, Gene Stevenson over works them and by the time they turn pro, they’re useless. Mike Palfrey and Darren Dreifort are perfect examples. Name one WSU pitcher that has succeeded as a pro

By: Barry D.

Barry D. — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 21:43:35 +0000

In response to t agee, I definitely thought Harvey was a future big league starter and potential ace, but I actually liked Andrew Miller better and he’s still struggling to make the big leagues. The best hitter on the Tarheels this year was the freshman 3rd baseman, Colin Moran. He’s from Rye, NY, nephew of B.J. Surhoff and a future high draft pick for sure, best hitter for UNC since Dustin Ackley.

By: Squidoo

Squidoo — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 16:53:19 +0000

Forget the outfielders, we have plenty in the system. We need pitching! Bradley and Jungmann are the best ones on this list, but I dont think either of them will fall to the Mets at 13. If one of them do, that’s who the Mets take no questions asked.

By: t agee

t agee — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 16:49:08 +0000

Agree on the pitching ’62. I really wish we had blown the budget in the IFA arena and gotten some great middle infielders and I agree that’s where we should look for them. Catcher has 3 guys worthy of a first round selection and quite a few others farther down. We need to have a solid catching tandem, guys to consider trading coming up here. Catcher in recent years has been Cancel, Casanova, Santos in AAA. Now it’s Ryan, cut by Baltimore and Nickeas cut by Atlanta. AA has Groneur who looks like he’ll age out and an older French Canadian I’ve never heard of. Pena’s not going to make it, Forsythe hasn’t shown anything. The best teams have the same catcher every year. It’s a big part of the pitching staff. Thole at best will be a decent half of a tandem. I really hope we address C in a really significant way both in the draft and the IFA arena.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:51:37 +0000

And the converse could be argued that he already has all the plate discipline and all you need to do is refine his swing to get better hits than he is getting now!

The point being if a guy is already doing something well, it is probably due to good coaching and that says he is more coachable than the guy who has raw talent but has still not refined it with the coaching he has had so far.

If the guy has a high OB then he already has the plate discipline so all you really need to do is try to improve the OBs he is already getting.

Turn some of those walks into hits, Some of those hits into doubles etc…

It is apparent that the higher OB guy already has the ability to handle all the various pitches he will see. It’s all a guess when your talking about college numbers but that doesn’t mean you should ignore the success of one simply because you think he maxed out already. To me all that says is there is less to do with him in the coaching department and you can work on things like situational hitting and his glove.

AT least the high OB guy has shown he is capable of a high mark. The other guy could have the marks he has for a very good reason and that reason might not be able to be coached out of him such as not being able to hit a curveball.

When evaluating College players it is almost more important to look at WHAT gets him out more than what gets him on base.
Is it that he can’t handle a certain pitch? Or is there a problem with his approach at the plate?

A bad approach at the plate can be corrected, Not being able to hit a curveball is usually not!

Bottomline is WHERE is he vulnerable and is it a correctable issue, if not then pass!

By: t agee

t agee — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:31:17 +0000

Metsie what I wrote was OB, not BA. The guy who has a high OB in college and especially HS is already maxing out his production where as the guy who has a low OB and an average BA is getting less production because of his approach. A good approach, eye, pitch recognition, within reason, should be able to be taught in the minors so the guy not exhibiting that quality now and subsequently taken in the 3rd round can be the better Major Leaguer than the Levi Michael type who has already refined this quality and costs you a #1 pick.

Essentially what I’m saying is bet on the ability and refine changeable qualities during the development period rather than drafting for already learned qualities and somewhat lesser ability.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:25:48 +0000

This topic was covered by today’s e-mail Post
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/picks_will_unveil_alderson_philosophy_sTyf5yFtWlWRQHpZTgF3yO
with a couple of different considerations:
Brandon Nimmo, OF East H.S, Cheyenne, Wy LHH (requires slot+(may be interesting if only to guage if Alderson’s slot adherance is being controlled by Wilpons

However, despite our current situation Re. Middle infield types I personally would consider an inventory on hand of
REYES
MURPHY
TURNER
TEJADA
HAVENS
FLORES
to be sufficiently deep as TO PREFER THEY ignore Levi Michael listed both here & by “THE POST” I always thought the secret of winning baseball was “YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MUCH PITCHING!” not “YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY MIDDLE INFIELDERS”

I contend that we’ve enough potential options to not waste a #13 first round pick on yet another despite his being a former Harvey, Tarheel teammate. u want more MI depth? Wait for the subsequent rounds, I’m sure ther’s plentry available, besides I’d much prefer my middle infielders from the Intl marketplace of Latin America.. As a novice @ all this amateuer evaluation stuff, I read ALL these brief descri[ptions & I’d prefer to hear these names as taken by us with either or both of our first round selections;
JED BRADLEY, LHP
MIKE MAHTOOK, RHP
ALEX MEYER, RHP
SONNY GRAY, RHP
anybody see my preferred pattern? For this & any first round selection, pitching is my #1 priority!
Especially considering logistics & geography(Citifield)

By: Metsie

Metsie — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 15:05:47 +0000

Not going to rake you over the coals for this…I understand what point you were making but…

basically what you said was to not go for the guy with the higher BA because he is already maxed out and go for the guy who isn’t doing as well because he has room to grow….

I can’t for a second think you actually believed that!

For my money I would go with Mikie Mahtook, if for no other reason than he has a great name for a Baseball player! lol

By: t agee

t agee — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 13:23:51 +0000

Appreciate your opinion and insight Barry. Did you see Harvey pitch for the Tar Heels? What did you think of him? Anyone on the team that you can see going on the first day in 2012?

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By: Denver Mets Fan

Denver Mets Fan — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 01:28:59 +0000

Why so angry?

By: Donal

Donal — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 00:14:06 +0000

I’d actually rather not get Jungmann. His delivery stresses his shoulder and his changeup doesn’t move.

By: Hitman

Hitman — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:14:20 +0000

It will be a miracle if Jungmann falls in the Mets lap. He was 13-0 with an ERA of 0.95 and opponent batting average of .159 this year. I’ve read from draft projections that the Brewers may nab him, but keep your fingers crossed.