But yes over the last two decades? Yes Why? BECAUSE THEY DRAFTED THIER CORE 10 YEARS AGO! After SUCKING for a decade while we were the #2 team in the division and winning at a .517 clip during that time!

We were never as dominant as the Braves and Phillies have been. Are you really being serious?

Atlanta went to the post season twice as often in fifteen years as we have in fifty! Philly’s gone four straight years. We’ve never gone more than twice in a row.

Not even close to the same thing.

MOST rookies don’t win that award. How many rookies start in any given year in the MLB? What percentage actually get that award? How many times in that season does the singular ROY win those?

Your all about how bad Omar is…Well who brought him here?
Who brought you Gee, Davis, Turner, Pagan (Who you gloat over like a son of yours) Niese, Dickey, and was even on the team 2nd in command that brought you Jose reyes and David Wright?

Note all the additions Sandy made this season…Whats his track record on finding talent so far?

What you fail to take into consideration is that for the last 10 years we have been a team looking to win the division.

Not like the Phillies in the 90′s who lost so much between the time of 1984-2002 (.469 Win Pct with one WS win in there) that they got to pick before us in most every draft. since 1984 and Unlike the Braves who from the time between 1984-1990 (when they became dominant) had a win pct of .415 and also got to pick before us in most every draft.

Our Win Pct over the last 15 years is by contrast .511! Win Pct .517 since 84. We are now in year three of our decade of decline…MAYBE!

You give the Braves and Phillies credit for a decade of dominance but you fail to take into account the decade of DISASTER they were to help them GET the players needed for a decade of dominance.

We however have not had a near 10 year cycle of under .500 Win Pct
Which is why those guys get to pick all the players before we can get them and look SMART to you! And now they are dominating while we start our suck cycle and get the picks!

The 86 season was preceeded by a 7 year stretch of .403 Win Pct in case you were wondering ! Wonder if that had anything to do with guys like Gooden and Strawberry?

The Yanks?
Hmmm they became what they are in 1995 with the addition of their CORE…
Well between the years of 1989 – 1993 the yankees had a .464 Win Pct. Hmm I wonder when and where they picked to get Jeter in 1992 (.469 Win Pct by the Yanks that year!)

You don’t seem to get it that to do what you propose to do is all about sucking for the best part of a decade so you get the chance to pick the CREAM OF THE CROP, where YOUR INTELLIGENCE is the ONLY limiting factor in picking a good player because there are not 15-20 teams picking before you and stealing the guy you KNOW is good!

You fail to see the cycles of how those guys GOT as good as they are and why they could draft while we had to buy because we were in a fight that wouldn’t wait 3 or 4 years for those picks to make a difference.

You continue to want to add TWO the wasted 1st rounder count of Omar because you THINK Wagner was a sure thing Type A which was 50/50 at the time because he was hurt and there were health questions. You do that because you KNOW the Phillies and Yankees have done the same exact thing AS MANY times.

Well there are the Win Pcts you need to maintain for at least half a decade to do what you want this team to do. Omar as bad as you would like to make him out is the guy responsible in part or in whole EVERY PLAYER performing well on this team!

Pagan, Davis, Niese, Gee, Harvey, Nieuwenhuis, and Havens
Considering where we picked each year we are lucky to have even ONE of those guys around!

SO I don’t see why you continue to blame Omar for the problem when the problem is that Omar didn’t LOSE ENOUGH GAMES to be able to snatch all the guys you would have liked him to have drafted and given him credit for because WE WERE PLAYING FOR A PLAYOFF! As DOMINANT and you believe the Braves were and Phillies are now…You forget who the team was who was always their greatest threat each year!

And thats been the NY METS!
We were playing well and like it or not when you win you don’t get a chance to pick all those guys you wanted them to get because someone else was picking them before us!

Again, Welcome!

61 opportunities pass to get one over a ten year period between 14/15 other clubs and the first one we get isn’t even by a guy we drafted or signed as an international amateur.

Who’s in charge of all this scouting anyway…….

Holt was quoted as saying his legs “gave out” in the 5th inning of a perfect game so conditioning could be a big reason for his struggles. I agree that most of it seems mental so they could try sending him to a sports psychologist like they did with Nick Evans last year, but that quote from Holt is worthy of keeping an eye on.

There was some hope for Kai Grouneur (out of Germany) in AA right now but it looks like he’ll never hit enough and he’s getting on in years. Fransisco Pena (Tony Pena’s son) can’t even get playing time from his father in the DWL, is once again not hitting at all and was apparently signed primarally because his uncle (Ramon Pena) was the scout wanted him to get a nice bonus.

Through our history we have had some good catchers that came from other teams (Grote, Stearns, Trevino, Piazza) but have done a very poor job of drafting, signing and developing our own.

Duffy Dyer was probably the best one we have developed and Thole reminds me quite a bit of him.

Thole could improve his game quite a bit and become an average catcher because he is just 24 but he was never properly developed in the minors. He even spent two of his seasons down there learning 1B. Now tell me how did Josh’s bat ever project to play 1B up here? It didn’t. They just needed a 1B so they stuck him there because he wasn’t considered to be that much of a prospect. Then he started to show something and they tried him back at catcher but obviously got fast tracked up here long before he was ready because we had no one else.

Same old story.

Draft the lessor talented players, fast track anyone who shows anything and add them to a cast of expensive, under achieving veterans riding out their last contract.

We’ll start to see on Monday night if any money is finally going to be put into the future by what types of picks we make. The next checkpoint will be on July 2nd with the IFA signing period where you can sign as many players as you want (possibly for the last time with the CBA expiring in Oct.)

There is no draft, no slot guidelines, absolutely nothing to prevent a team from signing guys like Miguel Cabrerra, Pedro Martinez, Vladimir Guerrero, Jose Reyes, Rafeal Furcal, Jair Jurjens, Martin Prado, Ubaldo Jimenez, Miguel Tejada, ECT.

You are limited only in your scouts ability, judgement, connections cash and your own committment to winning.

The Wilpon’s committment to the international amateur has been something much less than even luke warm despite two of the best players we have ever produced came from here. (Reyes and Alfonzp)

We’ll see what happens on July 2nd.

It sucks that there really isn’t any future replacements. Francisco Pena is still there, but he seems like a long shot and Albert Cordero was the only other catcher with real major league potential. Kai Gronauer has a chance to make it as a backup because of his defensive skills, but he probably will never come close to hitting enough for a starting position.

The lack of depth in the system is a big reason the Mets should take a long look at Blake Swihart and Austin Hedges in the draft if the fall down to pick No. 44 or even the to the 2nd round.

Satin tends to get overlooked because of his age (26), but he was drafted as a college senior so it is not entirely his fault and his has hit at every level he has been at. He needs to be challenged at Triple-A and with Luis Hernandez and Chin-lung Hu “blocking” him I don’t see what’s holding the Mets back from promotion him.

Guess why he never heard of it? No Met had ever won a rookie of the month before. That’s a little hard to believe. Reyes never got one I guess because he came up in June and Dontrelle Willis (1) and Miguel Cabrerra (2) had great rookie years then Reyes got hurt.

Wright never got one in 2004 because he came up in June and Jason Bay won 3 times. Well at least we have Bay back now.

Astounding though. 62 times the award has been given out and 62 times no Met rookie has won it until now.

Great job though giving away our top draft picks every year and avoiding the best players when we do keep them in order to put the savings into guys like Bay, Perez, Wagner, Alou, Schowenweiss………

“Duda, conversely, has not had any problems driving in runs. His best night of the week came on Wednesday when he went 3-for-3 with two home runs, four RBI and three runs scored. Duda has been killing the ball since his return from the disabled list, hitting .428 (12-for-28) with five home runs, nine RBI, a .525 OBP and 1.492 OPS. He has homered eight times in 111 at-bats for the Bisons this season. He is hitting .304 with runners in scoring position.”

Did you get a load of that OPS? 1.492. I’ve never heard of such a thing! I like that he hits with runners in scoring position, and I like that despite the prodigious homerun hitting, he also draws his walks. With the total power outage the Mets are going through, don’t you think we could use a big Dude in the line-up?