Comments on: Detroit Rock City: Mets Pummel Tigers 16-9

By: NYMetsfan

NYMetsfan — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:54:30 +0000

Yeah Wright and Maine belong in the same sentence………….

Did you like Davey Johnson as a manager when he was here in the 80′s?

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 03:12:10 +0000

I’m not talking about “rate stats” and “counting stats” i don’t even know what the hell you mean.

I’m talking about baseball and what it takes to win games. After the runs are driven and the 3rd out is made, i don’t care who is left on base. That has nothing to do with anything.

By: t agee

t agee — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:54:11 +0000

By that rationale the guy who never has any unsold newspapers at the end of the day is doing the best job despite the fact that he might very easily have sold two dozen more, if he had them.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:47:37 +0000

um…there’s a lot more to the story than that pal

By: Trufan

Trufan — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:07:42 +0000

Tell that to the Mets and Red Sox, which lead MLB in LOB/game. Yet those two teams are the 4th and 2nd highest scoring offenses in their respective leagues.

By: Trufan

Trufan — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:05:19 +0000

That argument doesn’t even make sense. You can’t add a rate stat to a counting stat.

By: Met Maniac

Met Maniac — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:45:16 +0000

More LOB is a good thing? More LOB indicates a propensity of failing to execute offensively with runners on base. If you think more LOB indicates success, you’re way off base my friend.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:36:29 +0000

Wrong,

It doesn’t matter how many runners remain on base when the last out is made. All they do is just add to the OBP and LOB total, nothing else.

What’s important is that they get driven in.

By: Trufan

Trufan — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:20:28 +0000

More LOB is a good thing, it means that you are getting more opportunities to drive them in. Furthermore, there is very little correlation between runs scored and number of runners LOB, with whatever little correlation being positive, meaning more LOB= more runs scored.

http://www.retrosheet.org/Research/BinghamB/Whats%20so%20bad.pdf

By: alex68

alex68 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:05:52 +0000

from you mouth to god’s ears rzanca, but.. i remember.. is pelfrey

By: rzanca

rzanca — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:02:39 +0000

Keep your skepticism, Alex. I think Pelf will pitch a gem today!

By: alex68

alex68 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:08:57 +0000

i want to point out certain things, i don’t want to be a downer, i am very excited for this team, but i am very skeptical about today’s game, not because is verlander, but because is pelfrey pitching for us, knowing he’ll go against verlander prob has him thinking since last week about this game, worst, we’re doing good and he’d be pressure to cont the winning streak to 5, the more pressure it is, the quicker he folds, just like a few caracters we’ve had over the years, some met players just can’t handle the pressure or big stage, guys like pelfrey, maine, wright are the perfect examples.
head cases, i hope for a win, but if we lose i saw it coming 5 days ago,
also, in my entire life i have never seen a time that can just hit you to death like this team, they know they won’t hit hr’s so they outhit you, not a great recipe but is working, hudgens has made guys like murphy & co look like all star hitting wise, making the whole lineup take a better approach, line drives and not trying to hit hr, making their swing shorter, that equals getting pitchers to adjust their game plan because they won’t strike out many batters as the whole lineup (other than bay) is contact driven..
saber sandy must be mad as hell, watching the team play great must be drive him nuts, as i am sure he was expecting to do a san diego/oakland type of sell out, but now he must earn his money and help this team at the deadline the way minaya never did. life is good as a mets fans (unless you hate reyes as someone i know in this site does)

By: alex68

alex68 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:54:30 +0000

LEt’s go mets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 06:25:55 +0000

They’re also 3rd in team batting AVG at .261 and 2nd in league in team LOB at 588. So that’s 588 runners left on base so a lot of that OBP is just staying on base not scoring too.

A lot of that though is timely hitting driving in big runs because converting those baserunner into RBI’s is still the meal ticket my friend. RBIs. And Mets are getting a LOT of timely CLUTCH hitting.

Hitting is still the most important thing but it’s also good that we have a new batting coach because a lot of us were saying here last year that we did not like Hojo’s approach as a lot of the players took on his style of hitting and that’s not good. So that’s nothing clever or sabermetric about that. We just needed a better hitting coach and he’s able to get his ideas across.

Oh, and you guys need to get off Francoeur and Barajas backs already. Frenchy is not having a bad year so far and you don’t know how he would have responded with this hitting coach. And Barajas too and don’t forget while Barajas was here last year he helped until he stopped hitting, maybe his approach would be different here too although NOBODY can complain about Paulino’s hitting. But Barajas is still the better receiver. Oh and forget Cora because EVERYBODY knew Cora can’t hit anyway so his OBP doesn’t matter because he can’t hit

By: Trufan

Trufan — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:29:45 +0000

The Mets:
lead the NL in walks
is 2nd in the NL in OBP
has hit the 3rd fewest HR in the NL
has scored the 3rd most runs in the NL

it helps that there are no OBP black holes on this team like Francoeur, Cora, Barajas, etc.

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:55:50 +0000

Hearing about Harris’s wife going into labor too early. 5 months into pregnancy. My prayers that all goes well for them and the baby.

Meanwhile I am reading Thole’s wife is expecting soon like possibly this weekend. If so looks like Paulino may see a lot of catching this weekend. Hopefully that ball off his knee in the 9th doesnt become a concern.

By: rzanca

rzanca — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:38:10 +0000

Yes, the BP sucked, but don’t forget how well Tigers hit.
Parnell looked good. Since he consistently throws around
100 mph, isn’t it time we ready this kid to be the closer?

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:21:40 +0000

All I can say is it’s nice to be on the winning side of these ugly pitching performances for a change.

16-9? I mean what is that a Football score?

A win is a win though and don’t look now but the Mets are now 2 games above .500

2morrow for the sweep before heading back home for the Yankees.

By: Midwestern Met

Midwestern Met — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:18:26 +0000

Take that, American League! Chicks dig the longball, but the win column digs the double.

http://tiny.cc/rcxqq