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	<title>Comments on: 2011 Draft Update: Mets Top Pick Brandon Nimmo Wants $2.5 Million</title>
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		<title>By: t agee</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/06/2011-draft-update-mets-top-pick-brandon-nimmo-wants-2-5-million.html#comment-161920</link>
		<dc:creator>t agee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Mets FINALLY went high ceiling high school players with their two top picks.  These guys (and other top high school selections) are not usually available to teams picking in the bottom half of the first round when they become eligable to be drafted again in three years.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s so vital for teams with weak farm systems to take some chances on projectability and signability because those guys simply won&#039;t be available if they turn out to be what teams drafting them believe they will.

     Look at it this way.  If a high school player is good enough to be considered to be drafted in the first round he must posses quite a bit of talent and Nimmo was on the wish list of several teams with well earned reputations for draft success including Boston and Tampa.

     If 20% of the high school players who go early (or those that go later but still get first and 2nd round money) get siphoned off before their real draft class in three years, then that draft class is 20% weaker (and from a pure talent standpoint 50% weaker) and you&#039;ve already got your guy and if you were right about him he&#039;s eating up A+ ball right now for you.

     Lots of times we have actually selected college Sr&#039;s who have absolutely no leverage what so ever.  They either turned down overslot money in high school or more likely weren&#039;t even drafted.  As college jr.&#039;s they weren&#039;t taken high enough or enduced to give up their Sr year with even a little bit extra so by the time we&#039;ve drafted them their age class has had the cream skimmed from the top 4 years earlier and the bulk of the talent taken the year before.  That doesn&#039;t mean a college Sr cannot make it.  Injury or a bad season in his Jr year could cause him to go back for his Sr season but usually it&#039;s due to lessor talent and lower cost.

     Den Deker is a good looking prospect who we drafted as a college Sr but he is the exception to the rule.

     Take a look at any list you want to.  The best Mets of all time, best current Mets, best current anyother team, the best players of all time, the best current players, All Star teams, MVP&#039;s, Cy Youngs ect and you&#039;ll find 3 out of 4 of them signed at 16-18 years old.  Thank God we are hopefully committed to this philosophy because there is a good reason our farm system is universaly ranked in the lowest third of MLB and that is because of a sever shortage of talent.  The type of talent that was skimmed off the top three years before we got a chance to select it.

     The high school player also provides a bit of a cushion if he does lose a year or two to injury in the minors unlike say Reece Havens.

     The bottom line is high school players talented enough to be offered first or 2nd round money regardless of where they happen to get picked are overall going to out produce the college player both in terms of career and in terms of peak year production.  Whether the one&#039;s we selected at #13 and #44 are two of them no one can say but considering how many thought to be safe, medium floor, medium ceiling college players have busted on us it&#039;s a very refreshing change that I hope continues.

     Of course if you don&#039;t sign them it&#039;s all for naught.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mets FINALLY went high ceiling high school players with their two top picks.  These guys (and other top high school selections) are not usually available to teams picking in the bottom half of the first round when they become eligable to be drafted again in three years.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so vital for teams with weak farm systems to take some chances on projectability and signability because those guys simply won&#8217;t be available if they turn out to be what teams drafting them believe they will.</p>
<p>     Look at it this way.  If a high school player is good enough to be considered to be drafted in the first round he must posses quite a bit of talent and Nimmo was on the wish list of several teams with well earned reputations for draft success including Boston and Tampa.</p>
<p>     If 20% of the high school players who go early (or those that go later but still get first and 2nd round money) get siphoned off before their real draft class in three years, then that draft class is 20% weaker (and from a pure talent standpoint 50% weaker) and you&#8217;ve already got your guy and if you were right about him he&#8217;s eating up A+ ball right now for you.</p>
<p>     Lots of times we have actually selected college Sr&#8217;s who have absolutely no leverage what so ever.  They either turned down overslot money in high school or more likely weren&#8217;t even drafted.  As college jr.&#8217;s they weren&#8217;t taken high enough or enduced to give up their Sr year with even a little bit extra so by the time we&#8217;ve drafted them their age class has had the cream skimmed from the top 4 years earlier and the bulk of the talent taken the year before.  That doesn&#8217;t mean a college Sr cannot make it.  Injury or a bad season in his Jr year could cause him to go back for his Sr season but usually it&#8217;s due to lessor talent and lower cost.</p>
<p>     Den Deker is a good looking prospect who we drafted as a college Sr but he is the exception to the rule.</p>
<p>     Take a look at any list you want to.  The best Mets of all time, best current Mets, best current anyother team, the best players of all time, the best current players, All Star teams, MVP&#8217;s, Cy Youngs ect and you&#8217;ll find 3 out of 4 of them signed at 16-18 years old.  Thank God we are hopefully committed to this philosophy because there is a good reason our farm system is universaly ranked in the lowest third of MLB and that is because of a sever shortage of talent.  The type of talent that was skimmed off the top three years before we got a chance to select it.</p>
<p>     The high school player also provides a bit of a cushion if he does lose a year or two to injury in the minors unlike say Reece Havens.</p>
<p>     The bottom line is high school players talented enough to be offered first or 2nd round money regardless of where they happen to get picked are overall going to out produce the college player both in terms of career and in terms of peak year production.  Whether the one&#8217;s we selected at #13 and #44 are two of them no one can say but considering how many thought to be safe, medium floor, medium ceiling college players have busted on us it&#8217;s a very refreshing change that I hope continues.</p>
<p>     Of course if you don&#8217;t sign them it&#8217;s all for naught.</p>
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		<title>By: any</title>
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		<dc:creator>any</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this actually points out a benefit to trading a guy you aren&#039;t looking to re-sign, vs. taking the picks.  In a trade, another team already absorbed the signing bonuses.  So in theory, you can take the money saved there and splurge in the IFA market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this actually points out a benefit to trading a guy you aren&#8217;t looking to re-sign, vs. taking the picks.  In a trade, another team already absorbed the signing bonuses.  So in theory, you can take the money saved there and splurge in the IFA market.</p>
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		<title>By: sarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My thinking too 86, if you knew what he wanted and you got some of your other picks for less then use the savings on Nimmo cause this FO has to start setting a new direction in the drafting and signing dept.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thinking too 86, if you knew what he wanted and you got some of your other picks for less then use the savings on Nimmo cause this FO has to start setting a new direction in the drafting and signing dept.</p>
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		<title>By: 86mets</title>
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		<dc:creator>86mets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They took Nimmo knowing full well what his demands are, meaning they have every intention of getting him signed.  Even though they would get the #14 pick in 2012 should they not sign Nimmo, they are not about to let that happen.  That would be a fiasco of epic proportions for a new Front Office out to rebuild the image of the franchise.  So, if it takes $2.5 million to sign him, they&#039;ll give him that.  The fact that they got their 2nd Round pick to sign for less than slot just means a little bit more $$$ they can give Nimmo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They took Nimmo knowing full well what his demands are, meaning they have every intention of getting him signed.  Even though they would get the #14 pick in 2012 should they not sign Nimmo, they are not about to let that happen.  That would be a fiasco of epic proportions for a new Front Office out to rebuild the image of the franchise.  So, if it takes $2.5 million to sign him, they&#8217;ll give him that.  The fact that they got their 2nd Round pick to sign for less than slot just means a little bit more $$$ they can give Nimmo.</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of the reason Nimmo was ranked as a late first rounder is because it was rumored he wanted in the neighborhood of $3million and had the option of taking a full ride to Arkansas. His signability was in question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the reason Nimmo was ranked as a late first rounder is because it was rumored he wanted in the neighborhood of $3million and had the option of taking a full ride to Arkansas. His signability was in question.</p>
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		<title>By: any</title>
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		<dc:creator>any</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[he got drafted as #12 (or whatever it was), so that is the slot that is relevant.  

and he can ask for whatever he feels makes it worth his while to pass on a college scholorship.  

if you want to reach and get someone you can lowball, it needs to be a college senior that has no other real options.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he got drafted as #12 (or whatever it was), so that is the slot that is relevant.  </p>
<p>and he can ask for whatever he feels makes it worth his while to pass on a college scholorship.  </p>
<p>if you want to reach and get someone you can lowball, it needs to be a college senior that has no other real options.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He came out and emailed teams that he wanted 2.5 to 3 mill before the draft. This is not news to the Mets. They knew he&#039;d cost this much. They will pay the kid. 

He gets off asking for 2.5 mill because he knows he can get it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He came out and emailed teams that he wanted 2.5 to 3 mill before the draft. This is not news to the Mets. They knew he&#8217;d cost this much. They will pay the kid. </p>
<p>He gets off asking for 2.5 mill because he knows he can get it.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So basically besides what we were told, the Mets have not gone over slot on anyone? When that reached down so low to grab Nimmo did they do so thinking that they could sign him for lower because he was considered a second rounder like Mazzoni? Because if Mazzoni&#039;s slot guideline was around $525K that&#039;s what Nimmo would have been looking at too if he wasn&#039;t picked so high by the Mets. So where does he get off asking for $2.5M?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically besides what we were told, the Mets have not gone over slot on anyone? When that reached down so low to grab Nimmo did they do so thinking that they could sign him for lower because he was considered a second rounder like Mazzoni? Because if Mazzoni&#8217;s slot guideline was around $525K that&#8217;s what Nimmo would have been looking at too if he wasn&#8217;t picked so high by the Mets. So where does he get off asking for $2.5M?</p>
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