Point I was making is the whole purpose of looking at stats is to see what a gy is capable of not how long he was capable of it.

If you know what the guy is capable of doing then it’s just a matter of keeping him doing it!

Until the guy actually fails you have to believe in the numbers that are there because like it or not, believe it or not he HAS done it!
Sampling is only good for evening out trends and fluctuations, But if you can do something you should be able to repeat it. Sampling answer if he did, doing it proved he can!

In August you could see this as an infield…

Davis at 1st, Turner at 2nd, Tejada at SS, Murphy at 3rd.

(Swap Turner and Murphy’s positions if you want!)

We would probably win as many games as we do now Only Davis would be the only real HR hitter so we play more little ball.

Who knows if those guys will ever be superstars in this league, the bottom line is if they can beat the Phillies without Wright and Reyes and Davis on the DL they can beat them when Reyes and Wright get traded and Davis is back.

Not what I would like to see but considering how well Turner and the rest have played it sure would make a ton of sense to Sandy to go with them and solve all the payroll issues in one Trading deadline!

And if they manage to keep us in contention while Wright and Davis get healthy who knows they may be sent off for pitching instead.

Point I was getting to above is be thankful and happy they are doing well. No matter how long it may last at least they have opened some eyes to what they are capable of and therefroe valuable in a trade or in allowing another player to be traded to make us better!

How gratifying it is as a Met fan to see some young players come up to Majors, play, produce and help team to succeed since the last time before Ike was Jose and David.

It gives me as a loyal fan optimism for the rest of this season and hope for the future.

No one knows what will happen, injuries, cold streaks but these two guys have shown us that they belong and I hope that SA and Mets do not trade them away cause Gee especially can be a consistent innings eating, keep your team in the game with a low WHIP.

Turner could be our 2b or platoon with Murph or be 2b and Murph can be our super sub after Ike and David return.

Great post and too bad you have trolls that can’t let Met fans have a glimmer of hope for this season and next.

It’s not Robinson Cano but it’s not Cora, Catalonotto, Castillo or Hessman either.

Live with it. Put the money into the RIGHT guy when he comes around.

Darwin Barney 193 at bats.
Justin Turner 92 at bats.

Turner isn’t even a qualified hitter yet based on at bats/plate appearances

Turner is the kind of guy who might be a late bloomer or he might just be a guy who can play good MLB while he’s in his prime. There are a lot of guys like Turner that don’t clog up your roster, cost you millions and fail to live up to the expectations when they are near the end of their career. The trick is to forecast ahead of time by having a couple of in house Justin Turners when your current 2B man is about to become a free agent. A Justin Turner at 26 with 5 full minor league seasons CAN sometimes step up even for just a year or two and provide a lot more than someone nearing the end of their career. It’s a much better move than signing the wrong guy and having to live with him for 3 or 4 years.

Gee can flat out pitch through a Major League lineup. His change can get crushed but he sets it up so well. He’s not going to be an ace but he can be a really important part of the rotation. I liked this kid the first inning I saw him pitch. I think this was Omar’s best pick by far. 21st round 4th or 5th starter that can keep you in the game, every game. That is damn good.

Mostly these guys are 25 and 26. Not 20. That makes a huge difference. So does having a few of these types around. Much better than having a 20 year old come up here and not be ready or a multi millionaire play like **** and you have to then live with it and hope you can get something out of him.

Good job in getting both of these guys by Omar. Hope we get a few more to fill in around here and there.

In the case of percentages BA OBP and SLG doesn’t care how many samples!
If you are saying the numbers can’t be trusted with low samples then how can you trust all the other numbers as well?

Who can say a kid with 500 PA who hit .300 will ever do it again?

You say 100-200 PA or Qualified, is that really enough? 500 isn’t even enough, Try it on Pagan and see if last year alone is enough to prove he is that guy who put up those numbers for REAL!

Point is his NUMBERS are good. You choose not to believe them until a certain amount of time has past.

But you forget the WHOLE reason for looking at the stats…
CAN HE DO A GOOD JOB?
If the number say he DID a good job then he is a GOOD player regardless of the PA involved. HE IS CAPABLE of being that good! How long (Samples) he does it is irrelevant provided he CAN do it!

And if he can then it’s just a matter of doing what he is capable of in every game!
The numbers say he is capable, the numbers say he is capable of being an MLB player!

How long he does it is the job of the manager and coaches to keep him doing what he is capable of and to try and get even more by perfecting what he is capable of doing!

So this sample thing is just an excuse to not count something good as being MET Good in order to press the notion that this team is deadder than the pirates and needs to be flushed!

Which is why you are trolling on a Mets site.

“But when the ridiculous title of this post came across my reader,”

And you found it because…

“I had to see what nonsense it was referring to and couldn’t believe it was about a scrub who is now with their third organization, and a non-prospect pitcher with below average stuff.”

And until 6 months ago, you knuckle draggers were sucking off Jayson Werth.

Look, we get it. Philllies fans hate their lives. It’s understandable. Most of you wake up in Philadelphia. The rest wake up in Southern New Jersey and you hope to someday upgrade to Philly. That would make anyone angry enough to puke on a child.

Good for your team and their success the last few years. Congrats on winning the same number of World Series as the Mets. Granted, your team has been around since the Civil War, but they still got 2. I’m sure that makes up for being the losingest franchise in sports history.

And if blindly lashing out at a smarter fanbase makes you feel manly and forget about the agonizing depression that is your life, welcome to the boards. I expect to see many more enlightened comments from you.

Silly me alex.

Turner has 92 at bats, a full 100 behind Darwin Barney whom I suggest should be the NL ROY right now. That’s a long way to go before you can compare apples to apples.

You’re on to something with Gee because there are not many NL Pitcher ROY candidates. So he’d at least be in the tops there… Brandon Beachy is probably the only other pitcher candidate in my book right now.

I want to see more before I annoint anybody. Turner is going to slow down, you know he will. The key with him is where he lands when he slows down…

But still, I’ll wait and see how it goes before I get excited about the future here

for once, SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!