Comments on: The David Wright Trade Watch Should Be On

By: tommy d

tommy d — Thu, 12 May 2011 16:29:55 +0000

From a loyal met fan and college baseball player i will tell you what the mets need to do. TRADE WRIGHT, he can be replaced REYES CANNOT BE REPLACED! I swear to god if they trade reyes i will stop watching baseball. all wright does is go on mind boggling slumps which can be predicted, never get a big hit in the clutch, strikeout like its the thing to do, and makes up for it when nobodys on base or in a situation in the game that doesnt really matter. Reyes is a one of a kind all around player that can hit a single and turn it into a double or triple most of the time by his stealing ability. A leadoff hitter is the most important order and hes a great one when healthy. Also a grest fielder with unlimited range and a cannon.mets need to build around reyes and davis,trade wright and bay for young solid pitching.

By: Da Hamma

Da Hamma — Thu, 12 May 2011 00:39:53 +0000

David Wright & Jason Bay are flops in the middle of this Mets lineup! Anyone who thinks that Bernie Made-Off with the Wilpon’s money need to check the books & realize that the wrong guy is locked up! Bay & Wright are lifers too & should be in the next cell over from Bernie! The money that they’re stealing from the Mets should be more closely investigated. They’ve done it right under every Mets fan’s nose without a gun, a mask, or a scheme!!! Nightly 0 for 4′s & horrifying numbers with RISP along with K’s that we haven’t seen since the days of Dave Kingman & Rob Deer! (At least those guys could hit the ball outta the park without excuses) The Mets need to get rid of both Wright & Bay, get some good young pitching in return and sign Reyes, Then build the team around Ike Davis & Reyes along with those pitchers. They’ll get some financial relief with Beltran, Bay, Wright, & K Rod coming off the books so there can’t be any excuses about signing quality free agents.

By: Tomterrific

Tomterrific — Tue, 10 May 2011 17:25:37 +0000

Guys I can’t tell you how much fun it has been to read such intelligent debate from my original post. So many great points on both sides. Some observations on various points made above: First, you cannot be a three hole hitter when you k as much as David does now. But what is the chicken and the egg? Did he become a high strikeout guy when he felt he needed to be the big power guy which was exascerbated by playing in a big park? David has basically become Gary Carter with more ks and a higher average. Since Jason bay has basically become Ray Knight the heart of the order should be Davis, Beltran, David and Bay. Second, you cannot win in baseball without pitching, pitching, pitching. While it always scares me to trade a very good everyday player for a pitcher, I don’t think Beltran will bring back enough so we’ve got to consider rebuilding the system by dealing David. Third, I would bet money on alderson bringing in the fences next year. If that’s in the cards, do we keep David and see what happens? I still think Collins would sit him down and tell him to stop thinking of homerins and drive the outside pitch to right like he did in the good old days.
Keep up the good chat guys (and ladies).

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 10 May 2011 17:02:15 +0000

Yeah How much is he contributing over there these days?

Funny they asked Sabathia to be in the Pepsi commercial, I didn’t see Jeter there!

By: Donal

Donal — Tue, 10 May 2011 16:34:00 +0000

“If you can name the “FACE of the franchise” the you reslly don’t have a franchise!”

Derek Jeter called. He’d like to disagree.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 10 May 2011 16:33:25 +0000

Russel I was quoting the guy who quoted you so my response was in the context of what THEY said not in response to your use of the quote….

I agree if David had performed to his average (which he hasn’t early and hasn’t early since he started playing in Citi) we would have won more games.

But his AVERAGE are those 25 dingers and 100 RBIs.

And as long as he gets it once the season is done it is dufficult to blame him for anything but inconsistency. What your not getting now you get in spades at some other point in the season. The solution is to get someone who does that when David isn’t so when David is Off someone else gets those runs in.

Thats basically all I was saying in regards to what he does. There will be good david and Bad David and provided together they give you David Wright it shouldn’t really matter what months you got it in…You GOT IT eventually!

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 10 May 2011 16:27:34 +0000

Bottomline Coop is it is a team sport and the individual success is always based on the success around you that creates the condition needed for individual achivevment!

By: jdon

jdon — Tue, 10 May 2011 16:24:12 +0000

When the mets contended in 2006 they had two players in the lineup who were beter than Wright was offensively. There is no need to trade Wright per se. I am not against it. But it is not a strategicnecessity. The error in their ways is in expecting Wright to be a centerpiece, when he is supporting cast. Very good supporting cast, mind you, but only that. He will get paid like a superstar (and Reyes too if they resign him)and render them unable to get anyone else. If the mets think they will get to the promised land with Reyes and Wright as their featured players, they will need a starting rotation like the Phils and a closer like Mariano to do it.

By: The Coop

The Coop — Tue, 10 May 2011 16:13:22 +0000

The Face of the Franchise observation is actually a very astute one — one I hadn’t thought of yet myself. Wow! I was in one of the team stores at the game over the weekend and the amount of marketing put towards David Wright is obscene. His likeness is everywhere. If he goes, the Mets will basically have to redesign their stadium!

By: Russell Zanca

Russell Zanca — Tue, 10 May 2011 16:02:18 +0000

Since you quoted me, I’ll respond: I don’t expect him to carry the team, just to be one of the team’s finest players. If he were a .300 hitter right now, I’m fairly certain we would have won at least three-four more games than we have. In other words, we’d be somewhat competitive in our division. Unless guys like Murphy and Bay start hitting also, we will keep dropping. Unfortunately, Wright’s sucked when we needed him, and that’s why he’s hitting about .240 as we head into the season’s second fifth.

You’re right, by mid-September, he’s likely to have at least 25 dingers and close to 100 RBIs, and the Mets will be somewhere like 22-25 games behind the Phils or Braves

By: The Coop

The Coop — Tue, 10 May 2011 15:51:36 +0000

I gotcha Metsie. It’s all good.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 10 May 2011 15:50:25 +0000

I will say this on a side note…

If you can name the “FACE of the franchise” the you reslly don’t have a franchise! Just a bunch of guys who aren’t getting the job done and one guy you THINK can all by himself!

I bet if we asked who was the face of the franchise back in 86 we would have a roster full of FACES! LOL

The field is nothing more than feeding the PSYCHOSIS that David Wright should hit more HRs and if we moved in the fences he actually WOULD except for the fact he doesn’t hit them away when the fences are more normal either!

David is trying to make up for fences that are not really a problem to any HR hitter!

Ike seems to have no issues and the MoZone happens to be the part people blame the most for david’s problem!

Ike hits opposite field HRs too to the DEEPEST parts of the field even!
It’s in David’s HEAD! If we repainted the dimensions and told David we moved in the fences but didn’t, he would be hitting them out to EVERY part of the field because when he gets all of the bat on the ball he has power enough to clear the fence.

All he has to do is swing level, Concentrate on good contact and his natural ability, strength and good contact will send many apples a flashing and we won’t be worried about David Wright anymore!

By: metsaddict77

metsaddict77 — Tue, 10 May 2011 15:44:31 +0000

@metsie, kieth hit for average didn’t strike out 170 times a year.kieth was a good line drive hitter who didn’t try to lift every pitch he swung at.wright is not a number three type hitter anymore.i’m not saying he is supposed to be a power hitterm,ur putting words in my mouth.citi is not condusive to wrights style of play.” he hits plenty in citi” yeah right, that’s why since citi was biult david had his two worst seasons.since citi was biult david has changed his whole approach at the plate.he went from being a great 3rd hitter to a strike out prone wanna be power hitter(which he is not).i liked him when he was a young player he had a better idea and approach then.he has regressed as a player.you gonna try to tell me he is a better player now.

By: Met Maniac

Met Maniac — Tue, 10 May 2011 15:41:31 +0000

I’m really lovin this post, it was even worth a second read, very nice job and very well said. I don’t know where all the David Wright fan club is but it’s great to see that most on this thread agree. Lets get MAX VALUE for Wright now! He is a solid player who is far too overrated by too many Mets fans. I never saw a three hitter who just tenses up like he does when he’s in a big spot. Keith Hernandez has him pegged and he should know. Trade him, and until that happens bat him fifth!

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 10 May 2011 15:40:38 +0000

Well Coop he is the #3 Hitter type was what I was trying to get accross (and not anywhere as good as Hernandez when actually compared)

But he is swinging like a clean up hitter which would be fine if he actually was the only cleanup hitter we had but he is not!

He is a powr hitting not a HR hitting type batter!
As Clint was fond of saying…

“A Man has got to KNOW his LIMITATIONS”

If he stayed within himself and hit for average not distance he would be getting the distance because he would hit more of the ball, Uppercut less, Lay off the outside pitch or try and take it the other way, and just concentrate Good part of the Bat on the Ball. Then Physics will send a lot more balls out of the park naturally!

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 10 May 2011 15:33:57 +0000

“Why does he have to suck so bad when we need him so badly?”

If at the end of the season he has only 80 RBI then I could possibly lend credence to that statement.

The other side says “Why were we in a position where David was the only one who could save us in the first place? Why isn’t the rest of the team preventing that? Is David supposed to carry this team?”

I am in the middle, I personally believe that whatever problems David is having in the clutch are mainly mental. In fact most of his problems are easily correctable if he even has the miniscule brain of a slug they are just that simplistic.

David is too busy trying to show Power! He is hitting for power and the result is more likely to be a K than a hit! Because his swing for power is too uncontrolled!

Wright needs to concentrate on the Average not the power. Then he will concentrate on Contact instead, hit more of the ball and the HRs will come naturally! He is strong enough to do it but for every bit of extra power he tries to add he loses that much amount in Bat control….MORE Ks! Less everything else!

SO a guy who should be hitting for high average (and I will point out a double clears the bases as much as a HR does!) is hitting for power and doing nothing to score them.

By: The Coop

The Coop — Tue, 10 May 2011 15:27:51 +0000

Metsie, I have to say I don’t think DW is a HR hitter at ALL. If you look at his portfolio of work, his best days (where he was a 30/30, 100+ RBIs, and high OBP) were when he had a wingman like Delgado or a fully operational Beltran. I disagree that he’s a #3 hitter though. He’s a 5 for sure.

By: The Coop

The Coop — Tue, 10 May 2011 15:26:19 +0000

Metsaddict has simply hit the nail on the head. It blows my mind that CitiField’s dimensions would be compromised for ONE player. One stinking player who is given the title “Face of the Franchise” who as TomTerif eloquently said, face of a franchise that is a joke in most baseball forums. Meanwhile back at camp nobody else (esp the opposition) have any problem whatsoever hitting them out of CitiField. And down the RF line the dimensions are shorter than Shea Stadium (330 as opposed to 338). That said, David Wright’s talents are realized when he’s someone’s wing man. Look at Scotty Rolen. When he became Albert Pujols’ wingman, he flourished. David Wright is a good player but he is not the best player. It may be time to look at the best fit for him because it’s clearly not in Flushing.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 10 May 2011 15:24:33 +0000

He hits plenty in CitiField! What he doesn’t do is hit a ton of Bombs that everyone seems to want him to (including David Himself!) as if he is Ryan Howard or Albert Pujols.

David Wright is a #3 hitter just as Keith Hernandez was our #3 Hitter.

Keith didn’t jack 30-40 HRs every year? Why are we expecting Wright (who is similar in hit type to Keith Hernandez) to hit HRs when he is really just a High BA Line Drive hitter who uses the entire field, hits the gap and OCCASIONALLY will Jack one out if you make a big mistake on the mound!
The only difference is Keith had a good eye and always kept his approach to bat ball contact and situational hitting where David seems to just swing as hard as he can and hope to connect!

And why is that?

Because YOU, THE MEDIA, supposed EXPERTS, and even DAVID WRIGHT HIMSELF, have concluded he is a HR hitter and if he doesn’t have 40 HRs the problem must be the fences he isn’t claering and not the fact that he isn’t making good contact to hit it out due to swinging at anything outside that can extand his hands to jack a HR and striking out!

You don’t get to 40 HRs by WILL, You get there by not trying to hit HRs just hit the ball well!

By: metsaddict77

metsaddict77 — Tue, 10 May 2011 14:56:12 +0000

wright should be traded.mostly because he CANNOT hit at citi field.he is not suited to play at citi.that park is ruining him.you have to be a real power hitter or a good line drive hitter with speed.fly ball, gap hitters go to die at citi field.how many hard hit balls go to the gap just do die out at the warning track. i truly believe the park is more responsible for our hitters failures.the size of the park is in their head.they’re all seem to be looking for that one pitch to hit 500ft., because if they don’t crush it, it’s just gonna be a fly ball out.