Teams Would Be Interested In Carlos Beltran

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• The Coop May 3, 2011 at 10:05 am

  HoJo’s Mojo – thanks for posting that. I didn’t see the Sherman article, but I’ll seek it out now. I’ve been saying all along that for those reasons straight away, the Mets will have to find a way to deal Beltran. I won’t be happy about it because I’ve grown to love Beltran, but when he walks (and he will) after this season, the mets get nothin’. At least if Jose Reyes signs with another team (I’m hoping against that too), there are comp picks for that. Trading Beltran to me makes the most sense out of the “usual suspects” you list.
  • Hojo's Mojo May 3, 2011 at 10:16 am

    You are quite welcome. I just hope fans wont look at trading Beltran as a sign that the team is giving up. It just makes good baseball sense for the Mets who must walk the fine line between competing this year while building for future seasons. That said, it’s always tought to trade one of your best players and one that for the longest time was the best at his position.
    • Metsie May 3, 2011 at 10:34 am

      They will look at it that way but that doesn’t mean they would be right. lol

      I look at it this way….

      We don’t know if we will resign him and won’t know if we even CAN until the season is over. Lets say it’s 50/50 odds we can and do resign.

      Say we go Trading him at the deadline and get something for him. Do the odds of resigning him actually change? Not really! They would still be in the 50/50 range and if lower than that not much because where he goes will be based off money, not allegiance.

      I think Beltran may be worth resigning. How much though is the question. It may be more than we are willing to risk on a guy wearing a knee brace!
      And as much as I like him I would rather we get SOMETHING for him and take our chances and make decisions on him based on the Market and see where that Market sets the risk at.
      • XtreemIcon May 3, 2011 at 10:50 am

        Metsie, the Mets were on the receiving end of a well thought out plan like that. Remember when they traded Melvin Mora for two terrible defensive months of Mike Bordick, only to see Bordick resign with the Orioles that off season? And Mora became a solid hitter after he left the Mets.

        That being said, I’m pretty sure Beltran is done the with Mets. Unless Sandy makes a huge impression on the new way the organization will be run, Beltran’s probably fed up with the way his injury was treated, the Wilpon’s off the field issues and possibly the future of the team, if he thinks he can’t win here. He’s a stand up guy and won’t necessarily run to the money. Another team with a brighter near-future and a hole in their lineup might stand a better chance.
        • Metsie May 3, 2011 at 11:04 am

          I’m pretty sure he is done here as well X.

          And it has less to do with money, health as it would the fact that Sandy would like to make this team in HIS image and not keep relying on the Omar Crew for his bread and butter.

          I can see him keeping Wright Reyes and Davis to build around because they are still relatively young and likely All Star players, but the rest are all likely to get sent away in favor of players that fit his model better.

          If we are sellers at the deadline I expect the sales to be on guys like K-Rod, Beltran, and even an attempt to sell Bay by paying some of the money.

          Those are all guys who a contender could believe would put them over the top in a race. (Beltran most likely to the pitching rich AL)

          If Paulino hits righties then Thole could go too.

          I don’t expect us to make many moves at the deadline, Beltran and K-Rod may be the only obvious ones.

          But the offseason with a FULL ABILITY to evaluate thet the FO didn’t have this year could mean a lot of moves for players we don’t think COULD be moved I think is VERY possible!

          Truth is the suggestion I made in regards to Beltran is also very possible with Reyes!
          Just tell Reyes that we are trading you now but intend to go after you in FA!
          Let the other teams set the price and then see how badly Reyes REALLY wants to play in NY!

          It got Lee back for the Phillies didn’t it? For less money than Market!
          • XtreemIcon May 3, 2011 at 7:41 pm

            Lee didn’t take more money, that’s a myth. He has an easily attainable option that will pay him about $24 mil per year, whereas the Yanks offered $25. I’m 100% committed to the cause of proving that Lee isn’t the “standup” guy he’s lauded as for taking less money. He didn’t.

            I’m also not sure Thole will be gone anytime soon. I wouldn’t let him go. He does have options and is very young. If Paulino proves to hit righties, my suggestion would be to demote Thole so he can play every day and learn how not to pass any balls and promote Nickeas to back up. Nickeas is what he is, a backup. And he also seemed to develop a quick rapport with the pitchers and calls a good game based on the four or five he started. And Thole seems to have a nice swing and can help them offensively.

            (As I write this, Thole strokes one into RF)
            • Metsie May 4, 2011 at 11:16 am

              I think you meant “didn’t take less money” and yes 1 Mil is not an exhorbitant amount.

              But the fact is he did go someplace he would rather be as opposed to just being ALL about the money as many folks here (not you) think is why it should be easy to get anyone they suggest each offseason if we just throw money at them.

              I think the money was not the deciding factor even if the Yankees offerred 10 mil more, because of how his wife got treated at Yankee stadium and the fact he had more friends in Philly than NY.

              As for Thole I wouldn’t trade him myself but I do suspect Sandy might at some point. And I say this because with the few signings he made this year. one was a catcher to make Thole a Platoon partner and thats not a good endorsement by your boss you have to admit.

              I also agree Nickeas is probably a professional MiLer who happens to call a good game but doesn’t hit enough.

              I just happen to think that Sandy is going to do some heavy remodeling and it may start at the deadline. I’m sure he wants to make the team more in his image and I’m also sure he believes enough in his troupe that anyone who has any worth in trade is likely to be considered for letting go. Including Wright, Reyes and Thole. Ike right now has to be the only untouchable and even that could change by the time the deadline hits!
• Donal May 3, 2011 at 10:11 am

  Joel Sherman talking about trading the whole team a month into the season? What else happened today? Sun rise in the East?
• JoeBourgeois May 3, 2011 at 10:26 am

  Sherman = The Mets suck so badly that the Yankees will feel compelled to graciously accept their crappy player personnel.
• Lifelongmetsfan May 3, 2011 at 10:42 am

  Beltran has a “no trade clause” in his contract???
  I’m thinking Beltran decides where and to which team.
  This year.. Philadelphia? San Fran? California? If Tampa Bay is contending in July for a play-off spot I can see them interested Sure up their RF and add a power left handed bat in the middle of the lineup
  • The Coop May 3, 2011 at 10:50 am

    That’s also true, and something I forgot to bring up. Something tells me, Beltran will waive his NTC if the team has a legitimate playoff shot. Just a hunch. I think most players would. (Didn’t Oswalt have one too and he waived it when he went to Philly? I could be thinking of someone else)
    • XtreemIcon May 3, 2011 at 10:54 am

      Nope, you’re right. It was Oswalt.
      • The Coop May 3, 2011 at 11:01 am

        Oh OK so my memory is better than I give it credit for (LOL). Anyway, Oswalt was one of those “I want to pitch in Houston kinda guys” but let’s be fair. if a team is a buyer at the deadline they have a legitimate opportunity to be playoff bound. Players want to be in the best position to win (or in Jayson Werth’s case, whoever is paying him the most to ride our retirement) and they’ll normally waive a No-trade, especially with Beltran in a walk year (and with presumably his home team eating a portion of the salary too)
  • Metsie May 3, 2011 at 10:52 am

    He does I believe have the no trade…

    All that means is he will need to approve the team we trade with which should not be an issue since the only teams who are buyers at the deadline are contending teams.

    What he may hold out for though is to have the new team extend him or negotiate a new contract which might make it more duifficult to trade.
• Lifelongmetsfan May 3, 2011 at 11:10 am

  This is Beltran were talking about here, you have to figure that he will look to maximize any value that he has accumulated this year with extended health and a power bat by demanding any the team he is traded to at least take his option. If Jason Werth received all those millions per. year doesn’t Beltran’s; what is it, 15 million dollar option seem appropriate for a 25 home run 100 rbi 90 runs scored good defensive right fielder?
• Metlomaniac May 4, 2011 at 12:22 pm

  As well as he’s playing, I’m not sure Beltran will be so easily tradeable. Even if he doesn’t have a NTC, he’s a 5-10 player, which means he can’t be traded without his approval, and he would not approve unless a team either, exercised next year’s option, or offered an extension. Either way, he’s not bringing back much.

  I remember seeing somewhere that Beltran would not bring back draft picks even if he left for FA, does anyone know if that’s true? Is it due to his option, if the Mets decline it, they can’t get picks when he leaves? Makes sense, but also means that trading partners have more leverage than the Mets.