Well don’t worry here it is again…

http://www.baseballamerica.com/execdb/?show=team&fid=nym&year=2001

Lets play WHO IS THE BOSS?

Minaya or Duquette?
Senior AGM or the AGM?

Minaya or Fusco?
Senior AGM or the AGM?

In other words…the SENIOR MANAGES THE JUNIOR!

BOTH DEVELOPMENT and SCOUTING AGMs reported to the SENIOR!

This is the year in which David Wright was DRAFTED!

When you do prove this ASSUMPTION please feel free to share it all with us.
Name one Director on THIS team that doesn’t ask Sandy and his AGMs who to take in the Draft!

I’ve already conceded Reyes to Omar, tenuous as the connection is, because he did head the International scouting Dept but your claim, backed by taking a tour, stating difinitively that “Omar is responsible for Wright”, but none of the thirteen bungled 1st 2nd and 3rd round draft choices of the Phillips era is BS.

I’m sure that baseball America has article on Asst GM’s, Sr. Asst GM’s and Directors of international Scouting and their job functions.

I guess what your really trying to point out is that Omar was also responsible for the THIRTEEN washouts drafted in the first, second and third round of the Phillips regieme.

OK.

I think Maniac did a great service by bringing this up.

This could be a problem.

I think Omar and J.P’s drafts were close, I think it could be argued either way. But in my opinion, i thought Omar’s were a little better.

But like you said, all of them didn’t have good drafts.

I believe the 2002 draft that is a central part of the story is comically absurd.

But how that can inspire people to actively take issue with almost every move made and compare it to the last administration which almost everyone wanted gone is beyond me.

How 180M vs 13M inhibits your first off season spending is never taken into account.

How almost the entire budget was committed before day one.

How 90% of the payroll was questionable or in transititon on day one

Did you hear Alderson bemoan the fact that he he had 20 M out on the street and only 13 M to work with?

How can that blowback cause guys to root for Omar’s guys and against Alderson’s?

Very strange, very narrow minded.

DePo’s drafts have sucked. Omar’s too. Hey getting something out of the 7th – 13th round is better than getting nothing I give you but to date only Pelfrey (1st rnd #9) and Ike (1st rnd #18) have really done anything.

I like the Niese (5th) pick and love the Gee pick (21st) and Murphy looks more than useable but through being mismanaged, rushed or whatever I’m not very sure that anyone will be bragging about Thole, Parnell and Duda down the road.

Like I said getting something out of 5-13th rounds is great but I wish he would have gotten a lot more out of the first, 2nd and 3rd round instead.

There is an argument though for including DePo’s drafts though because there is documented evidence that he was very much involved in the selection process. For Minaya there is no such documented evidence. For all anyone knows he could very well have been off doing his end of things in the DR or Venezuela which would make a lot of sense since the International signing period is July 2, four weeks away from the June amateur draft.

Either way it makes no difference to me. I think Omar could have done a very good job with the draft if A) He had put building a team for the longhaul above trying to get a World Championship and then rebuilding and B) if he had been allowed to go over slot.

Maybe if he held back some money from the 25 he would have had more to work with at draft time. I doubt it because of the Wilpon putting their Bud ahead of their fans but still……Who knows.

All in all I think Maniac’s article was very thought provoking. I wish he hadn’t tried to sneak Wright into the draft and there were a couple of things like Either was devalued because he was soon traded but Mulvey helped get us Santana to skew the story a little.

Just present the facts and let the debate rage without influencing or nudging opinions.

There is nothing we can do about Omar’s drafts now. I think he was a little unlucky in that years in which he kept the first rounder weren’t as good as years in which he gave it away. Ownership has a problem with the draft and he was drafting relief pitchers for crying out loud. Trying to get something up here right away instead of getting us the best players. He also got unlucky with the comp picks for Hernandez being only a 2nd rounder and Bradford a 3rd rounder. That hurt. The only focus really should be who did DePo select over who else was available and why? That’s the only relevant question for us going forward. (other than slot guidelines)

I’m going to take a look at drafts I know DePo was involved in and see what is what as much as I can tell.

Still and all DePo had a very flawed draft philosophy and I think it was very timely that Maniac brought it to the forefront.

I think when you do that your being REALLY unfair to Depodesta. I thought the way Maniac did was the most fair, even though it was not perfect.

“Good because I love to show people what an ignorant fool you are and what a bigot. You’re not a Met fan! You were only a Los Mets fan and now that your leader is gone, you’ll find another team to go root for. Good riddance to both you and Omar.”

I mean you come here write a nice little piece claiming Omar drafted better players than DePo and JP when 7 months ago you were celebrating his removal because he was the “leader” of the “los mets”

Sounds to me like you were forshadowing a great post on Omar’s international scouting, I look forward to reading it. If you need a quote, please let me know!