Limp Dickey, Bullpen Collapses, Mets Lose 9-3

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• Midwestern Met May 26, 2011 at 9:09 pm

  #Mets lose the game and #RA_Dickey, ending a miserable trip to the so-called #Friendly_Confines. Read all about it: http://tiny.cc/54nqu
• Met Maniac May 26, 2011 at 9:45 pm

  Off topic but here are some famous last words:

  “I’m confident that the type of player I am — ballpark or not — I’m still gonna do what I do,” Bay said while wearing his new No. 44 jersey. “So [the stadium] had zero factor in anything [to do with] my decision.”

  “I wouldn’t’ve signed the contract if I didn’t want to be here or I wasn’t happy,” Bay said. “This is one of the biggest days in my life, and I’m excited.”

  Bay’s deal includes a full no-trade clause and an $8.5 million signing bonus, according to The Associated Press. He will make $6.5 million in salary this year and $16 million for each of the ensuing three seasons. His option would become guaranteed if he reaches 600 plate appearances in 2013 or 500 plate appearances in both the 2012 and ’13 seasons. The contract’s total value could reach $80 million.
• BoostGear.com May 26, 2011 at 9:58 pm

  Jason Bay was my man with the Pirates. Once he left for the Red Sox, I didn’t get to follow him much, but I know that a lot of Boston fans told me he stepped into Manny Ramirez’s shoes and did an OK job with a better glove. When the mets signed him, I thought my boy Jason had come full circle back to one of my favorite teams.

  Ugh, I just wish he would snap out of it and start playing ball like he used to.
• Bayonne Mets Fan May 26, 2011 at 10:06 pm

  “Tejada – 0 for 3 with a walk. still hitting .292, but 2 to 7 BB/K doesn’t look good”

  While I agree he may (or may not) be off to Buffalo once Ike or Wright come back, there was a time in baseball where hitting .292 in about 25 ABs was a good thing and worth more of a look see and NOT the fact the guy has 2 BB and 7 Ks. If that’s the way they think than they can send the wrong guy down (in ANY case not just this one) based on some insignificant numbers that would level out anyway based on career average, especially if the guy is a good defender.

  Decisions should be made depending on the team you have and what you need in relation to the team and NOT on the individual numbers. The sum is ALWAYS greater than the parts, if it fits it fits.

  But that’s Sean Kenny for you. He loves his walks and is a FULL FLEDGED moneyball/saber guy.
  It sickens me the way people make wrong judgements about players because of stupid, stupid walks and Sean Kenney is a walk monger. He LOVES them so much it almost sounds like he’d be more happy to lead the league in walks and finish LAST then finish in first and be LAST in the league in walks.

  he loves his walks – unbelievable.
  • Sean Kenny May 26, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Yep, because as awful as most of the Mets were hitting, they are not competing in many offensive categories – minus runs and walks. Those baserunners will begin to get plated, and the pitching will not have to win 2-1 games.

    Tejada has some idea at the plate, and considering todays 0-3, he was hitting .333. Tejada’s bat is what will inevitably make him either an MLB regular, or a bench guy. His strikeouts are some signs of being overmatched, and some signs of not knowing when to swing.

    A walk to strikeout ratio can say alot about a player. Few players have really excelled with a large differential between the two for long periods of time. Ryan Braun is one of the few who fits that, and he is one of the best hitters in the league. The rest of the great hitters, NL, AL, wherever. Strong walk-to-strikeout ratios. Jose Bautista is on the verge of a career year, and he is doing it with patience.

    Its not saber or moneyball. Don’t swing at awful pitches or ones you can’t do anything with. Thats how it leads to walks. Walks become runs. None of the Mets are gonna drive a ball 7 inches off the plate 450 feet, so why attempt?

    And Tejada will get the send down because Turner will have to slump horribly to be sent down and Murphy seems to be coming around offensively. The front office wants young players to get as much PT as possible, hence F.Mart returning to Buffalo once Pagan returns supposedly.
  • Sean Kenny May 26, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    What do you suggest, personally then? Every Met swing from the heels, from light-hitting Josh Thole to light-hitting Ruben Tejada, to light-hitting Willie Harris?
    • srt May 26, 2011 at 11:30 pm

      Can you say Jeff Franceour?

      Agreed. Hacking at everything doesn’t guarantee you’ll find a hole in the field the ball will drop into or through. I means more often than not, you’ll get yourself out.

      ‘Don’t swing at awful pitches or ones you can’t do anything with. Tha’ts how it leads to walks. Walks become runs.’

      Don’t understand how some do not want or cannot understand this very simple concept.
      • Bayonne Mets Fan May 26, 2011 at 11:41 pm

        Easier said than done. That’s something you don’t seem to understand, then again any ol person off the boat can say “don’t swing at bad pitches” and not seen a game in their life. That’s how it is these days.

        Fortunately hitting is a lot more than that but i take into account who i’m talking to so i’ll leave it at that.

        Anyways, if you can maintain .279 AVG, 9 HRs, 29 RBIs in 183 ABs I’ll take that ANYDAY. Also if you’re able to help save runs with one of the best arms in the games in RF that certainly is a large part of it and in some cases, depending on the type of team you have even MORE important than what you give AB (see 2000 Mets OF).

        The sum is always greater than the individual parts – that’s what’s getting lost nowadays.

        But hey, anybody off the boat can say it’s important not to swing at pitches so you can walk. I literally mean that. Ask the guy behind the counter next time you go to the Deli, even if he has just a passing knowledge of the game, or just even only heard of it and only know you have to hit a ball, run around some white things and score. I bet THEY’LL tell you “oh yes yes my friend, yes, don’t swing at the bad pitch..very very bad”

        Yep, any old person can type that nowadays and is passes for some type of knowledge.

        ::waves hand in disgust::
        • Tomterif May 27, 2011 at 2:53 am

          Bayonne, this was great. Very well said. You obviously have played the game.
          • Des May 27, 2011 at 10:17 am

            You obviously have a talent writing humor. LOL
• Des May 27, 2011 at 2:18 am

  Let’s face it. Every callup has made some contribution to the Mets. Every callup over their low sample of opportunities also show why they are in AAA ball. In my opinion, all are marginal players. I like them because they play for the Mets. I objectively know that we’re a bottom dweller if we have to count on them day in and day out. There are no exceptions. All these guys are mediocre. Each has flashes of competency but baseball’s season is a long haul, and these guys can’t carry the freight. They are:
  F-Mart
  Pridie
  Tejada
  Turner

  Also, some vet players signed for bench roles are mediocre too. They include:
  Hairston
  Harris

  It’s going to be a long season, I’m athinking. I haven’t touched on our pitching which has been in and out. Some good periods, some bad. Over the long haul, I’m watching with guarded optimism. I don’t expect a top two finish from our Metsies.
• Lou May 27, 2011 at 8:56 am

  I don’t expect this team to win any game whnever they take the field against any team. Reason: look at their ability to drive in runs with men on base. Time and time again they fail. Pitchers lose confidence when they know they have dead guys at the plate.
  they couldn’t ewven drive in a run when the bases were loaded and noboboy out. If i see a win from this team I automatically think what did the other team do wrong rather than what the Mets did right. This is a bad team,period!
• sarge May 27, 2011 at 10:51 am

  Tejada needs to go down and get more at bats and learn some patience, yesterday he came up with RISP and swung at the 1st pitch popping out, non productive at bat and shows a lack of patience for a young player.
  If Tejada is to be Jose’s replacement in the future then he needs to learn how to work the count, be award of situational hitting because if not then he will be good field, no hit player which Mets don’t need right now.

  That play by R.A. would not have happened if Murphy would remember that he has a good fielding 2b behind him and he was totally out of range to get that ball which caused Dickey to try and get to 1b on a late start.

  I am having some concern about Murphy at 1b lately.
  He could of saved Jose an error on a throw that he should of come off the bag and on quite a few ground balls to right side he was trying to get balls that are not his, one which resulted in R.A. getting hurt, and he needs to learn that he is putting it on pitchers to get to 1b, as they should, on plays that are routine but he makes hard cause he doesn’t play his position properly.
• sarge May 27, 2011 at 10:52 am

  Hey Bay got a hit, with one on base, how predictable.

  When do Mets and SA start to push, and push, the worry button on Bay who has not shown any inclination of breaking out of his Mets tenure slump? Just saying.
• Russell Zanca May 27, 2011 at 11:24 am

  How the heck does Dickey get what looks like a serious injury by leaving the mound to cover 1B, and Fukudome falls on his butt going full tilt for a bloop that he manages to catch while falling?!

  Looks like we’ve got the Black Cat.