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	<title>Comments on: Left On Base; Left In Last. Mets Lose 2-1 To Rockies</title>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 02:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Des I have to admit I could have phrased my statement about the steal better as the way it came out it sounded like I was laying all the blame on Harris. I can&#039;t say if they gave him the go, or he decided to go on his own but really no matter WHO is to blame for the decision it was a poor one with a poor execution.

I&#039;m sure there are probably good reasons in the BOOK for doing it. Trying to get the guy in scoring position when you need one to tie on the road might suggest you try.

But I believe in that situation, why trade a potential out if you need another hit to score him anyway?
Get the HIT and at least allow the guys who are supposed to drive in runs do it!

At the time of the steal David Wright would have got up in every situation but that of the double play.

and they prob would have got that anyway when you look at what happened. 

Murphy&#039;s hit probably would have been a DP if you didn&#039;t steal no matter which way you decided.

SO no matter what rule you ascribe to you couldn&#039;t win because it was either an awful jump from first on the pitcher or the slowest 90Ft he has ever run because they nailed him..

As for the Sliding:
It&#039;s safer from a health standpoint to slide feet first, Our legs are meant to hold up our full body weight so it&#039;s built for the purpose of absorbing energy.

Sliding Head First is only really good for throws that look like they are going to be close and where you need to avoid a tag.
Even a Hook Slide would be good but no one seems to know that skill anymore.

Again it&#039;s not a good rule to slide in head first to home, one of the most dangerous things to try...
But there are circumstances where it might make sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Des I have to admit I could have phrased my statement about the steal better as the way it came out it sounded like I was laying all the blame on Harris. I can&#8217;t say if they gave him the go, or he decided to go on his own but really no matter WHO is to blame for the decision it was a poor one with a poor execution.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are probably good reasons in the BOOK for doing it. Trying to get the guy in scoring position when you need one to tie on the road might suggest you try.</p>
<p>But I believe in that situation, why trade a potential out if you need another hit to score him anyway?<br />
Get the HIT and at least allow the guys who are supposed to drive in runs do it!</p>
<p>At the time of the steal David Wright would have got up in every situation but that of the double play.</p>
<p>and they prob would have got that anyway when you look at what happened. </p>
<p>Murphy&#8217;s hit probably would have been a DP if you didn&#8217;t steal no matter which way you decided.</p>
<p>SO no matter what rule you ascribe to you couldn&#8217;t win because it was either an awful jump from first on the pitcher or the slowest 90Ft he has ever run because they nailed him..</p>
<p>As for the Sliding:<br />
It&#8217;s safer from a health standpoint to slide feet first, Our legs are meant to hold up our full body weight so it&#8217;s built for the purpose of absorbing energy.</p>
<p>Sliding Head First is only really good for throws that look like they are going to be close and where you need to avoid a tag.<br />
Even a Hook Slide would be good but no one seems to know that skill anymore.</p>
<p>Again it&#8217;s not a good rule to slide in head first to home, one of the most dangerous things to try&#8230;<br />
But there are circumstances where it might make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 23:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good reply, Metsie.  A couple of points.  Was Harris insane with his attempted steal while one run down?  He must have done it on his own, but I&#039;d like to know what role, if any, Mookie Wilson or Chip Hale had in the attempt.  

Also, Metsie, the head first vs. feet first slide argument you made is a good one.  I think pitchers should never slide hands or head first and with &#039;touch&#039; defensive players like infielders, it&#039;s debatable. When used for getting back to the base on pickoffs, the hands first is better.  Accidents and injuries can happen with both kinds of slides, though many announcers in the booth often ridicule the head first kind. Way back when, Giants players like Hank Thompson, Monte Irvin, Don Mueller and Bobby Thomson (with another team I think) had ankle injuries resulting from feet first slides. I&#039;m not certain though.  As a result the breakaway bag became popular.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good reply, Metsie.  A couple of points.  Was Harris insane with his attempted steal while one run down?  He must have done it on his own, but I&#8217;d like to know what role, if any, Mookie Wilson or Chip Hale had in the attempt.  </p>
<p>Also, Metsie, the head first vs. feet first slide argument you made is a good one.  I think pitchers should never slide hands or head first and with &#8216;touch&#8217; defensive players like infielders, it&#8217;s debatable. When used for getting back to the base on pickoffs, the hands first is better.  Accidents and injuries can happen with both kinds of slides, though many announcers in the booth often ridicule the head first kind. Way back when, Giants players like Hank Thompson, Monte Irvin, Don Mueller and Bobby Thomson (with another team I think) had ankle injuries resulting from feet first slides. I&#8217;m not certain though.  As a result the breakaway bag became popular.</p>
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		<title>By: sarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 17:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last year he was not  the primary catcher on a bad team and this year he was handed the job off a good year on a bad team and now he is the starter on a team trying to prove it can compete, more pressure trying to catch and also making a difference in the 8 hole.
He needs to get his head together cause he has the talent but catching and hitting can overwhelm even vets and he is only a 2nd year catcher being expected to hold together a patch work rotation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year he was not  the primary catcher on a bad team and this year he was handed the job off a good year on a bad team and now he is the starter on a team trying to prove it can compete, more pressure trying to catch and also making a difference in the 8 hole.<br />
He needs to get his head together cause he has the talent but catching and hitting can overwhelm even vets and he is only a 2nd year catcher being expected to hold together a patch work rotation.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 16:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thole is very dissappointing.  For someone who the world was saying was going to be a catcher with great contact skills, albeit low power, he has been regressing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thole is very dissappointing.  For someone who the world was saying was going to be a catcher with great contact skills, albeit low power, he has been regressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Zanca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Zanca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 14:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another evening of munching broken glass!

They just look like a team that desires to suck. Rockies announcers--a couple of positive drips--were saying how the Rockies don&#039;t aspire to be good but great.

Chacin couldn&#039;t have done more to hand that game to the Mets, but the Mets acted their typical role of the over-polite guest who will accept no freebies from his host.

SO many horrible ABs, and bail outs of Rox pitching that would have put more runners on base...they&#039;ve now beaten us five times in a row.

Capuano couldn&#039;t have done much better to give us a chance to win.

When the hell is this line up going to click consistently?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another evening of munching broken glass!</p>
<p>They just look like a team that desires to suck. Rockies announcers&#8211;a couple of positive drips&#8211;were saying how the Rockies don&#8217;t aspire to be good but great.</p>
<p>Chacin couldn&#8217;t have done more to hand that game to the Mets, but the Mets acted their typical role of the over-polite guest who will accept no freebies from his host.</p>
<p>SO many horrible ABs, and bail outs of Rox pitching that would have put more runners on base&#8230;they&#8217;ve now beaten us five times in a row.</p>
<p>Capuano couldn&#8217;t have done much better to give us a chance to win.</p>
<p>When the hell is this line up going to click consistently?</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 14:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree Des he beat the ball but I don&#039;t believe his foot was down to touch the plate.

It&#039;s another case like Pagan or at least it looked that way to me.

And I am starting to wonder if the head first slide would not be better as it presents a lower target and it is much easier to slide away from the tag while still touching it with your hands.

I know it&#039;s dangerous to do that but if your not going to knock the Catcher to kingdom come and avoid contact you might as well avoid it by going in head first and using your hands to ensure you touch the base as you go buy it. The hands naturally go downward on a slide. The feet naturally go UP when you slide feet first. Simple laws of physics as the body is meant to react that way to break a fall!


It would have tied the game...but I still think Harris cost us that game with that ill advised steal that took the bat out of Wrights hands. Especially considering how well he has always hit at Coors...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Des he beat the ball but I don&#8217;t believe his foot was down to touch the plate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s another case like Pagan or at least it looked that way to me.</p>
<p>And I am starting to wonder if the head first slide would not be better as it presents a lower target and it is much easier to slide away from the tag while still touching it with your hands.</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s dangerous to do that but if your not going to knock the Catcher to kingdom come and avoid contact you might as well avoid it by going in head first and using your hands to ensure you touch the base as you go buy it. The hands naturally go downward on a slide. The feet naturally go UP when you slide feet first. Simple laws of physics as the body is meant to react that way to break a fall!</p>
<p>It would have tied the game&#8230;but I still think Harris cost us that game with that ill advised steal that took the bat out of Wrights hands. Especially considering how well he has always hit at Coors&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This directly ties into the big attendance drop at Citi Field. Why would a hard working stiff pay money to see this team. The Wilpons, Alderson and Collins better do something quick or that 8.5 games out of first will turn into 38.5 games. Winning 2 games for every 5 losses cries out for change and NOW!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This directly ties into the big attendance drop at Citi Field. Why would a hard working stiff pay money to see this team. The Wilpons, Alderson and Collins better do something quick or that 8.5 games out of first will turn into 38.5 games. Winning 2 games for every 5 losses cries out for change and NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 12:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the play at the plate, Murphy looked safe to me.  I wonder why neither he nor Terry didn&#039;t protest the decision.  It was a game-changer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the play at the plate, Murphy looked safe to me.  I wonder why neither he nor Terry didn&#8217;t protest the decision.  It was a game-changer.</p>
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