By the way, isn’t it amazing that Tulo’s contract actually addresses 2021. Wouldn’t the world have come to an end prior to that?

The most your going to get discount is less than 5 Mil! Truth is probably around 1-2 Mil so you will get him for Werth Money not Crawford, and you only get that if every offer he sees is below Crawford money as well!

It really boils down to what someone offers him!
Even if what he says is true and he loves it here so will take less money, your talking at most a 1 – 2 mil per year discount or you maybe get one less year promised.

But he is still going to make out in the same area as Crawford.
If 20 Mil per season is too much, how much is NOT too much? 17-19 Mil? Cause thats about the best discount you can expect to get, 1-3 Mil off the highest offer he gets.

1-3 Mil off when your making near 20 Mil is small potatoes so a player might agree to that to stay in the city he loves. In the end you will have saved 7-21 Mil over 7 years.

The only other discount you might get is a reduction of Years, Crawford got 7, Maybe Reyes takes a 5 or 6 year deal with Options on those last 1 or 2 years. If thats the discount then your going to pay full boat for Reyes (20 Mil per, 100 Mil Total) for 5 years and then the option years would be at an even HIGHER per year rate, prob 25 Mil per, So your discount is now NOT a discount it is actually paying MORE per 7 years as Crawford only you can get out after 5 not 7!

It’s really a case of Pay me now or Pay me later! Guarantee the years and you might save one or two mil per year for 7 years, Don’t commit and you wind up paying more per year the last two option years which would make the total package 152 Mil for 7 years! If you thought 142 Mil was too much what do you think of 152 Mil?

There are really only three questions you have to ask yourself to decide. The Offers are not in your contraol so you deal with the money when you know them but you first have to decide:

1 – Is Reyes likely to finish the contract and stay healthy + productive for the next 7 years? 5 Years? 2 Years?
2 – How Much (either per year or per 7 years) is too much to pay for a SS with his numbers
3 – What is a SS (or player) with his numbers likely to be paid over the next 5-7 years?

We are approaching the 20 Mil Barrier Reef in Salary! In the past only guys like A-Rod and Piazza or CyYoung Lately would ever get paid that much.
Now you have Werth making 18 Mil, Crawford is making 20 Mil and soon Reyes will be in that group. 20 Mil is no longer too much for those types of players 30 Mil will be paid to the Greatest of players before the decade is out!

So while paying Reyes 20 Mil seems like a lot NOW it may even feel like a bargain by the time the contract is over! IF he is healthy…

Thats really the question here in resigning Reyes isn’t it?
It isn’t the money, It MAY be the years (which can be solved), but the bottomline is really Will Reyes stay Reyes for the next 5-7 years?

You Answer to that will be the same answer to any contract proposal you see in the offseason!

I say make the offer to pay him 20 Mil per for 5 Years Guaranteed with two Option years at 25 Mil that would kick in if he meets a number of Games played the year before.

If he plays in 130 games in year 5 His next year (maybe both) vests and he gets a raise.

Good for reyes (he makes more than Crawford) and good for us we can get out of the contract in year 5 if your worried about him making it to the end.

And no matter WHAT the deal, If you can manage to not give him a No Trade clause then even BETTER for us. Doubt that will happen with a guy who gave a home town discount he will want in return some ability to STAY home or at least pick his new one.

I think in 5-7 years there are going to be even MORE guys (Pitchers already there) making more than 20 Mil who will make Reyes look like a Bargain. SO the money really is not the issue for me, It’s the length.

10 years/$157.75M (2011-20), plus 2021 club option

signed extension with Colorado 11/30/10, replacing final 3 years and option in previous contract
11:$5.5M, 12:$8.25M, 13:$10M, 14:$16M, 15-19:$20M annually, 20:$14M, 21:$15M club option ($4M buyout)
salaries for 2020 and 2021 may increase by $6M annually based on MVP votes, Gold Gloves, Silver Sluggers or All-Star selections

$2M assignment bonus if traded

may be traded only once during contract

I believe a 5Y/90M, 75 guaranteed with a 3Y mutual opt out is highly competitive & if turned down, the best trade pkg may be our best & only option regrettably.