Comments on: Beltran Could Make It Tough On Mets

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 26 May 2011 15:21:54 +0000

Sorry dude but last week you were saying you should swing at strikes because if you force a pitcher to throw strikes you force him to give you a pitch to hit…

Well the pitcher threw a strike so he didn’t do what you said and now your going to change what you said to fit into this situation?

Bottomline was he didn’t swing at a strike!
He didn’t swing at a strike when he had TWO strikes on him!
Did it fool him?
If it did then he should have done what I said he should do, Not GUESS at what was coming, Get defensive and foul off anything close enough to be a strike until he gets a strike he CAN hit!

Thats my way, your method was to swing at strikes not at balls.
He didn’t do it your way either!

If he had only one strike on him then under my philosophy he would have been able to take that pitch. But he had two!
And taking that pitch didn’t help him do anything but walk back to the dugout!

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 26 May 2011 15:15:02 +0000

Coop! Thats probably the BEST statement about the reasoning for what Wilpon said posted yet!
Beltran is going to be traded for SOMETHING they simply do not trust his knees.

That has been decided long ago if you ask me.
So POing him publicly has two functions, One what you stated and two to let everyone know He’s Up for Sale!

And from the sounds of it Wright and reyes might be as well!

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Thu, 26 May 2011 13:11:17 +0000

NICE GAME CARLOS!!!!

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 26 May 2011 03:09:30 +0000

Excuse me I WAS being real by saying you CAN NOT PREDICT based on their AGE group who will get hurt in the next 3 or 4 years.

If you say you can then Prove it dude!

If you can prove you know then I will believe Omar should have too!

I however can NOT predict who will get hurt and who will not.
All I know is that once you GET hurt it is difficult to play the way you did when I hired you!
And if you DO thats all I can ask for!

By: tlagee

tlagee — Wed, 25 May 2011 23:38:56 +0000

Metstheory and Donal — Thanks for the correction on Buddy – I was wrong that he came after BV, and he was a nice guy – but he totally lost control of the clubhouse.

The Mets will always be my team and I will always be proud to be a Mets fan.

But heck, this situation is pathetic.

I don’t want to hear about rebuilding – it’s another word for ‘we give up right now’.

Owning a number one market team comes with certain respondsibilities. If you can’t live up to them then sell.

I predicted a 30% cut in payroll next year days before Wilpon confirmed it in SI.

It’s like watching a slow motion train wreck.

Thank god we’re a bit resiliant – we’ve been down this path before – remember the early 90′s?

By: Joe D

Joe D — Wed, 25 May 2011 23:18:38 +0000

That’s a great point Coop, and I wouldn’t put it past them! Make it so hostile for Beltran that he’d even approve a trade to the Pirates. Terrible but very likely.

By: Joe D

Joe D — Wed, 25 May 2011 23:15:36 +0000

Yes, and I didn’t mention it to knock Wright, I wanted to simply illustrate the hypocrisy in how the Mets raked Beltran over the coals when he didn’t show up even though Beltran had a far more noble reason than Wright.

By: Joe D

Joe D — Wed, 25 May 2011 23:10:13 +0000

Thanks for the comment. We have a very tabloid style media that thrives off of the Mets leaks and whispers. Guys like Martino and Lennon are the worst.

By: Joe D

Joe D — Wed, 25 May 2011 23:07:54 +0000

I actually asked Greg to at least comment on his own posts last week, he said he would. We’ll see. For myself, reading my comments and replying is the fun part.

By: t agee

t agee — Wed, 25 May 2011 23:05:24 +0000

Get real Metsie. You can predict some of them but who? Which ones? No. Beltran would have been one of the last choices. Reyes too but a season can end on a FB up and in. That could happen to Piazza or Ordonez.

But a dozen 35-45 year old’s? What are the odds on all of them staying healthy?

By: Joe D

Joe D — Wed, 25 May 2011 23:04:55 +0000

I like the way you think.

By: t agee

t agee — Wed, 25 May 2011 22:54:09 +0000

Sometimes you get beat. Wainwright made a perfect pitch. Close to unhittable. If Beltran had swung through a FB not much would have been made of that AB. The focus would have been on the whole team. Maybe the guys who didn’t play well. He got locked up 0-2 on a pitch that looked up and in…..and then…..dropped right in.

Credit Wainwright, Molina, Duncan and La Russa. Sometimes the other guys just beat you. This AB was one of those times. The Series could have been won well before game 7 was even played.

By: t agee

t agee — Wed, 25 May 2011 22:40:55 +0000

Wagner blew three games. Had a 16.88 ERA in that series. You don’t have to be the final out to wear the horns. I’ll give you that it helps but Beltran had a very good series and a fantastic year. How stupid. The guy who makes the last out is the one we should be all over regardless of what else transpired in the whole series let alone season.

Who made the last out last year for the Braves? Who knows. Everyone remembers Brooks Conrad. Was Wayne Garrett remembered only for making the last out in ’73? Does anyone really think he lost the series for us? Did Hojo lose the 1988 NLCS by making the last out? Glavine was gone in the first inning in game 162 in 2007.

If your looking to blame someone for that Cardinal Series blame Wagner. A 16.88 ERA or Greene, flubbing Spezio’s 2 out 3 run “triple.” Don’t blame the guy who played great.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Wed, 25 May 2011 22:28:42 +0000

Sure he was run out of baseball, (Some here would love it if the Wilpons were run out too!)

But in the end like it not Leo the Lip was right!

Nice guys DO mostly finish last!
A Boss who has a tendency for firing you for SANE things DOES tend to inspire you to not even get NEAR the dumb things!

It’s not an ideolized world in which we live!

And just for the record, the Yankees did pretty good in the 10 years before he got banned. Came to the club in 73 and was in the WS3 years later and 4 years out of 6 before he got banned! Winning twice!

It shouldn’t have to be like that and I’m not saying it HAS to be like that. just saying that it DOES work! If you are constantly questioning your staff they will prepare themselves better to be able to defend their moves, And that means they thought about their moves a lot more than someone who just gets the rubber stamp by ownership who says Yeah whatever you think is best!

Which is what the Wilpons have done since they took over.

Personally I think the Wilpons only affect is that they have tried to do everything to repeat george’s success without that key ingredient of being a hard nosed boss!

And thats why it hasn’t worked for them!

By: Metsie

Metsie — Wed, 25 May 2011 22:17:54 +0000

Because they didn’t make the final out with the bases loaded!

What was Wagner going to do? HOLD them after Beltran got the klead for us!

By: Metsie

Metsie — Wed, 25 May 2011 22:16:56 +0000

it was a STRIKE! How could it be a bad pitch?
Did NOT swinging help him extend the AB? NO!
So despite whatever LIKELY you want to mention there was still a chance it was NOT an out and the at bat was extended!

You talk about likely as if it wasn’t likely Beltran would walk back to the dugout after looking at strike 3!

By: t agee

t agee — Wed, 25 May 2011 21:08:25 +0000

Hey, Beltran went .296/.360/.667 3 HR’s 8 RS in that series. Greene and Wagner didn’t do **** and no one says a word about them. Why?

By: t agee

t agee — Wed, 25 May 2011 21:06:27 +0000

There is no chance of Carlos resigning here.

By: t agee

t agee — Wed, 25 May 2011 21:02:39 +0000

Coop, We can only guess about things but you know the three that were singled out to leak the Walter Reed incident were clearly out of favor with the Wilpon’s.

Why Beltran was included in that just shows how little regard they have for the players as Human beings.

Hey you want to dislike someone you signed to a big contract go right ahead, petty but not unheard of. Beltran though. Your medical staff mis diagnosed and then mistreated his injury, which is more like a condition he’ll have to live with the rest of his life.

Why do that?

The priorities with these owners are all wrong.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Wed, 25 May 2011 21:00:45 +0000

It’s not hard to do?

Ok Name the next 4 who will be hurt because they meet the criteria you set…We will settle this issue if your right at the end of the season and PREDICT who is ABOUT to get hurt!