He tried to sell A-RPD to us!

Did he?
Did his client come here?
no! HE WENT TO TEXAS!!! BIGGEST MISTAKE IN A-RODs life! He even said later he wished he had come to the METS!

Cause as much credit as you give to Boras, Boras couldn’t FORCE A-Rod preferred destination to offer up ANYTHING!

I know FULL WELL what the Agents job is…I also know Agents fail to get what they want ALL THE TIME!
Because they can’t FORCE a team to pay anything they aren’t willing to pay!

I stopped here because you clearly have no idea what a sports agent does. You realize a guy like Scott Boras creates a portfolio for each of his players and presents his players case to MAKE a certain amount of money?

In what hole do you live that told you they just sit back, answer the phone and accept or deny an offer.

You think the Nationals just magically came up with Jayson Werth’s contract offer on their own?

My suggestion to you, is to read about what an agent does, specifically a sports agent and then come back to this conversation because you’re totally lost.

Just look at Crawford numbers. over 300AVG 17 plus HR 60 plus SB 80 plus rbi. great defensive player. Whole package. Now playing in Boston line up his numbers are going to be bananas. So yea top 10 player. By the way in fantasy draft this year he was selected 7th overall. Just saying.

You make me think you have no clue what an agent does. It’s the agents JOB to have something to do with what the Mets offer him. It’s his JOB to tell the Mets what his client wants and what his client is worth.

And again you keep throwing around “$25 mil” You understand it makes you look like you’re lost right?

You understand if Reyes made $25mil a year he’d be the 3rd highest paid player in baseball? If that is what it takes to sign Jose Reyes, then adios Jose.

Can the agent MAKE the Mets offer a certain number?
NO!

All he can do is accept their offer or someone else’s.

Sure he will TRY to get this and that and reyes agent isn’t getting anything for reyes that some team doesn’t offer him!

His agent could ask for 50 mil per…But he’s only going to get whatever the best off is at most, And if that MOST is not that far away from what the Mets are offering then he MIGHT give you the home team discount!

But he is not going to get ANY MORE than the highest offer made by a team.

Reyes is worth what that number is! You may not think so but if you went to SIGN ANOTHER PLAYER that gave ytou the same amount he WILL also get paid that much because THAT is the price now! Reyes is going to get MORE MONEY than Crawford if he is SIMILAR to crawford in the mind of teams, Reyes will get paid more than Crawford and whoever you sign that is just as good as Reyes will get MORE than reyes!

Thats the way the market works dude and if you don’t understand that then your the one who has no clue!

The TEAMS set the MARKET. ONCE SET, the market IS the market value! You want to play bargains thats another story, but those bargains had better replace all that good baseball you lost by being cheap! Igf it doesn’t you will pay 5 Mil more per year for whever you get AFTER Reyes because the MARKET was too high for when reyes was setting the mark!

It is the OBP guys the guys who use WAR which slants everything to favor OBP instead of batting turned a leadoff hitter (a once ROLE player) into a Superstar salary!

And Crawford made the price jump up for everyone who was looking for that. Reyes will jump it up just slightly again, Might as well get it while it is there now and have it as YOUR DISCOUNT 3 years from now when what Reyes would get you added another 10 Mil per year to get!

If you buy it makes DEVELOPING easier no need to rush anyone. You will make that money spent up in years where that developed and cheap talent make those big money contracts no longer needed.
Pass the Money from the old to the new and develop again!

What your going to spend on a particular type of player isn’t constant, each year a new guy like that gets paid as the highest paid blah blah blah every year!

The price always goes up! And what a Reyes will cost us this year will cost about 2 or 3 More the year after that! So what are you actually saving here? Nothing!

In regards to a no trade clause well if you want that I will pay you less because I can’t trade you. Again take it or leave it!

But if that TIOL number is only 2 or 3 mil away from the top offer, Then Reyes might take it if he TRULY wants to stay. I’m sure he wants to stay a Met for life…But it isn’t what is going to sway him on which offer to take.

But when your getting paid 25+ Mil per year it’s easy to walk away and give that 3 mil away to the team you really want to stay with. Small Change.

“The rest of your rant goes on and on about how they should just keep spending”
No that wasn’t it…You skimmed I guess…What I ranted was you don’t need to cut every pricey salary and buy cheap to rebuild a franchise. And if you don’t cheap out and sell of every good player you will rebuild FASTER because you started from a better place!

Money isn’t important, it isn’t your money anyway it is the Wilpons. ONLY JEFF should want to run our franchise that way so he might have enough of his inheritance left to never have to get a REAL JOB running something!

No matter what DUMB reason you want to claim for the WHY the bottomline is they thought enough of him to pay him that amount AND have to play him!

If your already going to win a WS then how is it a risk at all?

And if your not going to win a WS what risk is there? The Owners financial condition?
DO you really care how poor Wilpon is? Is your goal to take care of him or to build a winning team?

An RBOE is weighted .92 in the War Metric. A Base hit? .9! You know what a Home Run Weighs? 1.95!

So guys like Crawford got paid the same as the best HR hitters all because if you RBOE 3 times or any combination of W,HBP,1B or RBOE) it’s as good AND BETTER as one HR! Two doubles are actually better than one HR.

Now you know why Crawford got stupid money!
And Why reyes will too!
This is why Moneyball the book doesn’t work…OBP isn’t undervalued anymore it is OVERVALUED!

You can only value a player based on what he MIGHT do! This isn’t a pack of cigarettes that you KNOW your going to get 20 in a pack! This is performance based salary, HOW much not how often. It is a QUALITY puchase not a QUANTITY buy which is why everyone always comes up with these out of reality deals. They look at the Quantity but not the Quality.

“You know what Reyes really wants? To stay a MET for life AND make as much money as possible doing it! Reyes will test the market, see how high it goes, the Mets will top out at their highest and if it is close enough to not care (what is a loss of 3 or 4 Mil when your still getting 25 mil a year and don’t have to move?) about the extra money he will sign with us for a discount!”

— You should be Reyes’ agent! Did you just casually suggest $25mil a year for Jose Reyes?

“What IS more important is to be sure you CAN trade him mid contract if you want to.”

—- Right! Because when Reyes signs his new deal, he’s not going to want a no-trade clause.

The rest of your rant goes on and on about how they should just keep spending, more and more. What does that solve? What is out there that turns this Mets team into a contender right away? You’re kidding yourself right now.

Just because you haven’t won WITH him doesn’t mean he isn’t HELPING you to win one. Try replacing the guys who don’t help at all before the guys who do that cost a lot BECAUSE they do!

You don’t fix a bad team by replacing the few players you have that are good! You do by replacing the ones that are BAD and stop the good player from doing more good!

If carlos had ignored the Mets and had it done right away he might have been back by May or June, If you give him two extra months of what he was doing in September, no one would be complaining about his knees at all.

So to blame Carlos for those two affected seasons because the team told him to not have surgery he needed is just plain old wrong.

So just so I’m clear. You’re telling me because of “WAR” that Carl Crawford is a better and more valuable player than Adrian Gonzalez, Mark Teixiera, Alex Rodriguez, Joey Votto and Miguel Cabrera.

And its because of Crawford’s “elite” LF defense that puts him over the top?

Yes because often times we hear about how every teams needs an elite fielding left fielder over a 40+HR 100+ RBI .900+ OPS hitter hmmm

Left Field is where teams hide poor defensive players. So having a great one doesn’t really do anything for me.