I’m not talking any trades yet because a middle of the order of Beltran, Bay, Wright & Davis can be pretty potent – among the best in the NL. Add to that Reyes/Pagan/Murphy at the top of the order and Thole and when this team faces RHP there isn’t an automatic out.

I’m taking it day by day because we can have one helluva lineup – question is the pitching.

They are pretty much what SHOULD have been expected by us and if you expected otherwise the fault is in your expecations not what Sandy did or the state of the current team.

If you bet on a 20-1 shot you shouldn’t blame the 20-1 shot for losing you should blame yourself for thinking it had a chance to win!

Is the team a disaster? Hardly! It got off to a slow start, And if you didn’t expect that I guess you were in hibernation last season when they were just as pitiful in April with the exception of a very fast start by Pelfrey and a healthy Santana who got no run support.

And like last year we had only ONE game so far with our full A team lineup. Unfortunatly Pagan got hurt in that game.

Bay is going to help the hitting.
Pelfrey seems to be sorting himself out and pitched a fine game. Gee goes to day and he did a pretty good job last time vs Atlanta, Maybe he gets us three straight today.

We are .12 into the season. No need to panic, no need to be frustrated and no need to fret.
Unless you thought they were going to have a .600+ winning percentage at this time and if you did the problem isn’t their not meeting it the problem was those rose colored glasses that made you think it was possible!

We are 6 games behind the Phillies who some thought were going to win every game they played!
We are 1.5 games behind Atlanta who will likely be our chief competition for a wildcard spot in our division if the Mets merely play to their capabilities.

And with the trading deadline who knows what we might add to the mix considering it is pretty much a foregone conclusion that Beltran will be shipped out then (although I myself am starting to have some second thoughts on doing so)

They won two in a row and I say they may be poised to turn the corner with a few good pitching performances and a little more timely hitting.

I did not expect them to make the playoffs this year but I do agree it’s possible if they play the way they are capable.
We are hardly the best team in baseball and despite the record we will not be the worst come september.

Just let it play out. As the Deep Purple song goes, It’s not the Killing it’s the thrill of the chase!
Sit back and enjoy, you got enough going on in your life to worry about than what the Mets do or wind up this year!

And with 60 Mil due to come off the books, Lots of guys who can be traded both on the <ML roster and Minors, there will plenty of moves made between now and this time next year!

This team can win anywhere from 65 to 85 games, nobody can tell. If Cleveland can have the best record in baseball, any team can surprise.

Look at San Diego last year. Nobody saw them as contenders, they won 63 and 75 games in ’09 and ’08, but it turned out that they had a team that was put together better than most people understood and won 90 games.

Guys like Latos and Richard were surprises, and Mike Adams and Heath Bell were awesome. None of those guys were originally signed for more than a million dollars, two of them used to be Mets, and they all were major contributors.

I have to admit that Harang has been great so far and those who touted him deserve credit for that.

Hasn’t Alderson won 4 division titles as GM and 2 as CEO ? Why do people insist he sucks ? Because he signed Scott Hairston and Brad Emaus ?

And what’s this fascination with HEALTHY pitchers? Why don’t you want GOOD pitchers? Sure, Millwood is healthy. But so am I. How about I pitch instead of Capuano? Would you feel better about that?

And oh by the way, Harang has pitched against the Astros, Cubs, Dodgers, Giants. 7th, 8th, 10th, 14th in runs scored in the NL.

He hasn’t exactly faced a challenging lineup in his 4 games that make him worth $7million dollars

You’d give Aaron Harang $7million. I get it. No baseball executive would have, but they are wrong and you are right.

I can’t debate with you something where you get the luxury of having hindsight back you. Thanksgiving Day there isn’t a person in the world who could be taken seriously for saying $7m to Aaron Harang.

Javier Vazquez got $7m from Florida — how come nobody mentions him EVER? Tell me that Harang’s history of performance and health outweighs Vazquez’s, especially in the NL.

Why didn’t you want Kevin Correia? He was healthy… is it because he isn’t 4-0 right now?

Maybe next year we can see if Bud Selig will allow all free agents to play elsewhere until May 1st and then allow the Mets a chance to sign them based on how they do. That’s fair no?

Jon Garland was a more reliable talent than Harang and he got $5million.

2.03 ERA 1.13 WHIP and had more strikeouts than innings pitched That’s not good? According to Donal is isn’t.

Choate is 35, but Brydack is older and not as good. I’ll spend a LITTLE bit more the get the YOUNGER and BETTER pitcher.

If you don’t want to believe me fine, I don’t care. And didn’t I say I would that I was OK with the Young move? So you have Harang and Young in the back of the rotation, with Millwood on a minor league contract just in case Young has to miss some time – I’m just not OK with going with BOTH Young and Cap, I felt together they were too risky.

No, you’d pay him a lot more. Way more than a good pitcher who doesn’t get hurt.

Seriously, if the talent pool so weak that your only option is make that kind of deal, maybe you’re better off just not getting involved.

“So if we did that we could have done something like this:

Harang – 7 million

Taka – around 4 million

Choate – around 1.5 million”

Takahashi wasn’t that good. He had some good stretches, but he was spotty, especially out of the pen. And since we get to use hindsight: have you seen his line?

Choate is 35 and pitched 85 inning last season. Did you forget what that does to a LOOGY?

“I would sign Millwood to a MINOR league contract for depth – I’d rather him making a spot start instead of Carrasco. ”

When we were still seeking out pitchers, Millwood was still looking for the $5 million range. The reason the Yankees got such a deal for him is because it was the last week of Spring training. How many other teams could use a veteran pitcher? And he still had to settle for a minor league deal. St Louis and Milliwakee found themselves suddenly missing their aces and he still can’t cut a deal.

OK, go ahead.

Where does that leave us? Harang is still in San Diego.

If we had your off season Vinnie, instead of being 6-13 we could be about 10-9, maybe better. And with Bay back I really like this lineup a LOT. Very reasonable and very BELIEVABLE approach.

The Mets were 7th in the MLB in ERA last year, and on offense, our best hitter missed more than half the season, and in most of the games he did play in he was just rounding into form because he missed so much time. Reyes the whole year wasn’t 100%. And Bay didn’t play 100 games.

So if those three guys can stay healthy, and the pitching can come close to something like last year, i know they aren’t going to do THAT again, but I think they can come somewhat close – The Mets doing that is not unrealistic.

“we can’t do because we already spent all our money, it’s ny baby if you cannot spend then sell” — Did you sleep through the winter? Are you not aware of the Mets financial situation? Is it ideal? Of course not, but until the court case is settled and a minority owner is brought in, the situation in December 2010 still won’t change. They had limited funds. Case closed. With their limited funds they still managed over $100m in player payroll.