5
2011
Warthen Amused, Feliciano Hurt And Vows Revenge
An article by Craig Lerner
I wanted to update this Pedro Feliciano/Brian Cashman post now that Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen had a chance to weigh in, as did Feliciano himself.
Warthen actually got a kick out of Cashman’s comments that he “abused” Feliciano and sort of mocked him.
“They didn’t know that when they signed him? That was part of the reason we decided to not re-sign him — because we knew we had used him 270-some times in the last three years.”
When Pedro Feliciano caught wind of Warthen’s remarks he said he felt hurt by them, but vowed revenge in a tongue and cheek way:
“I will show him in the Subway Series when I strike out Ike Davis,” Feliciano said. “When I jump up and down on the mound I’ll be like, ‘That’s for you.”’
He’s a cool dude, and I look forward to seeing Feliciano back on the mound soon. He gave us some solid seasons as a Met.
Original Post 4/2 1:30 PM
This is kind of comical, but Jim Baumbach of Newsday tweeted the following comments from Yankees GM Brian Cashman who is clearly having a bad hair day:
While he may be right about Yankees bloggers, if he felt so strongly that Mets abused Pedro Feliciano, why did he give him a two-year deal for $8 million bucks?
Obviously, Sandy Alderson was well aware of the abuse at the hands of the Minaya and Manuel so he stayed away with a ten-foot pole. Or was it a fifty-foot pole?
I got four words for you Cashman. Your problem, not ours!
About the Author: Craig Lerner
I'm a data analyst and researcher for a leading news agency who loves life and is hooked on the Mets. I love following the Amateur Draft and have a particular fondness for the Mets Minor Leagues who I follow each day. Give me a cold beer, a summer day, and a Mets game, and I'm good to go.
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I knew we hired the right GM the second he let Pedro Feliciano walk. I’m sure Omar Minaya had a 3-year 12 million deal lined up for him.
As for the other thing, if cashman is that concerned with what bloggers thing, he is the one that is psychotic.
Cry me a river, Cashman. Like he should have any room to talk anyway with the way the Yanks have handled some pitchers themselves. Joba immediately comes to mind. Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to sign Feliciano over the next 2 years. Joke’s on you.
Feliciano was one of the most overrated pitchers in baseball the last few years. the guy couldn’t get a right out and Sandy made the right move. Now Cashman has buyer’s remorse.
Buyers remorse indeed tomterif. Of course 8 million is a drop in the bucket for them but better them than us.
Obviously, it’s ALL Alderson’s fault for hiding the copies of the contingencu clauses that read, “contingent upon passing a physical…”
Guess the less experienced “INTERN” was expecting a reminder tweat from Sandy.
Hey, there were plenty of people on this website expecting Pedro to last forever and complaining about us not resigning him when the clear move was to avoid his possible injury or age related decline and actually get something going forward for him via the draft.
The 8M over two years may have been an issue this year but the real reason to have offered arb and let him go was to have the chance (in a deep draft) to pick up a player in the supplemental round that could help us for years to come. If we had a LOOGY all set to step in no one would have said a word but we never do.
Lots of good players get drafted in the supplemental round (not to mention the 2nd or 3rd round) Phil Hughes, Huston Street, Joba, Daniel Bard, Clay Buchholtz, Jed Lowrey, Julio Borbon, Travis D’Anard and Tommy Hunter to name just a couple.
Plenty of difference makers to be found in the 2nd round too, like Pedroia, McCann, Lester, Stanton, J. Zimmerman, Yuniel Escobar, Chase Headley, Yovani Gallardo, Kurt Suzuki and a guy Omar traded for and then included in the Putz deal Jason Vargas (Seattle)
Any of those guys would be way better than risking another year at 4M for Pedro and while a supplementary or 2nd round pick is no guarantee, what guarantee do you get with a resigning of a free agent?
Feliciano was not overrated.
every time feliciano faced a right handed batter, he was overused.
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cashman is better off just letting the owners make all the moves for him.
Wonder how he missed seeing Torre ride one guy after another into the ground.
Personally, I too am glad that we didn’t resign Pedro Feliciano because he had been used so much but Pedro was a very good bullpen guy for us and his struggles against right handed hitters may well have been worse because of his overall heavy work load. We should not be dissing Pedro but instead realize how good he was for us in most cases.
In so far as this b.s with Brian Cashman….if he screwed upo with signing Pedro for two years…it is his problem.
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Re: Brian Cashman in 2011.
I think I first got a bit confused when he showed up in Stamford Connecticut around Christmas Time in an elf’s outfit and rappelled down the side of a six story building.
Then when Derek’s contract needed to be addressed he told Jeter that if he didn’t like the new offering maybe he should look elsewhere. Thank goodness the Steinbrenner kids straightened that out.
Who knows what to make of this?
Of course Brian first came to George Steinbrenner through the thoroughbred horse racing business – Brian’s Dad – Wayne – runs a stable in Ocala, just as the Steinbrenners do. This was way back when Brian was a teenager looking for work and George gave him a chance with a summer job with the Yankees.
Maybe he thought he’d get to do more when George died – too bad Brian, George left four Steinbrenners to carry on the family businesses and they are good at it.
You should be glad.
What a soap opera – will everyone just shut up already and play the game………….ooops sorry Pedro you can’t………
My question is…
Why did Pedro call out Ike? What did Ike ever do to Pedro? It is not like Ike is the Mets big stick or anything, that would be Wright or Beltran or maybe Bay, but to call out Ike.
*** Check that, just figured out that Ike bats Left-handed and Pedro is a Lefty Specialist, DUH!!!
But come on, if you are only being called upon to strike out Ike Davis, are you really such and intricate piece of the bullpen. Ike isn’t Ryan Howard or anyone of that stature. What confidence boost can you really muster by saying you are going to exact revenge by striking out a 2nd year hitter.
Sounds pretty weak, or maybe that was his intent all along (in a joking manner).
Warthen’s comments on the other hand were unprofessional and in my opinion disrespectful towards a guy who was willing to take that ball almost every day for as many innings as you needed.
A little more appreciation should have been paid towards Pedro, perhaps Warthen should have responded by saying…
“Pedro is a class act who took the ball whenever his team needed him too. The Mets and myself are very appreciative of all the hard work and dedication Pedro showed for the Mets. As for the Mets not resiging Pedro, it was a difficult decision but the club decided to move in a different direction, but we wish Pedro success with his new club.”
I mean how hard was that to say, heck I wrote it on the fly, and I didn’t even work with the guy. Come on Warthen, it is bad enough that players ask more money to come to the Mets, but to start developing a stigma that Mets Managers will overuse you, then kick you to the curb will only demoralize and dismay further free agents from coming to the Mets.
Scotty, u aren’t wearing your thinking cap, who else in our lineup is a LOOGEY (LEFT ON LEFT) SPECIALIST going to be called upon to face? Wright? he feasts on lhp, Beltran,Reyes? they just jump to the RH batter’s box. No, not Thole or Harris, not big enough names, can u imagen the reaction to Pedro threatening to strike out Josh Thole followed by a celebratory dance & obligatory finger point @ Warthen? Has the laughing styopped yet?
Obviously his sole useful batter for him to appear against is Ike; but he better be careful since Ike has already established his lack of intimidation by lhping in so much as to compile this impressive resume against them:
122AB, 36-BH,9-2B, 3-HR,19-RBI, 14BB,36K .295/.362/.443/.805
Ike may just be hoping he goes for it!hanging in the weeds!