Comments on: Time to Push the Panic Button: How to Fix the Mets http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html Wed, 22 May 2013 05:17:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148854 Metsie Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:35:31 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148854 Well 62, when more than half your salary structure is going to guy who are not here and three guys who are it becomes rather difficult to get those guys who can fill out the end of the order with a decent bat.

And since Reyes, Wright, Davis and Beltran are about the only real batting threats we have right now, it is quite easy for the opposition to focus on them and then bear down on the rest of the order.

the 8th hitting spot is currently being used as a remedial batting position for whichever #2 hitter is not performing at the moment. I understand what Collins is trying to do putting Pagan there as he is thinking the 8th spot can serve as a second leadoff position where the pitcher can bunt the runner into scoring position. Not a bad idea provided the speed is accompanied by a good batting average and a guy who walks a lot. But thats not Pagan.

Putting Pagan there is not helping Pagan at all.

I do believe that when Bay comes back, if he hits, it will solve a lot of that late order issues we have. He will offer some better protection for Ike, and if followed by Pagan then pagan might see some better pitches as well.

The issue is currently that we are forced to play one OF that isn’t hitting. Bay should resolve that issue. Add to it the fact that our best fielding 2Bs are the worst hitting players on the team and they aren’t even the best fielders either, it leads to many problems with the order and there is no one on the roster to correct that.

Hopefully Havens will eventually solve the 2B issue or maybe a trade does before then. Can’t say.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148823 METS62FAN Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:16:04 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148823 Metsie, good point u brought to mind. exactly ewhen was the last time we had competant hitting batrting 7th &or 8th? notice the derth of runners obn ewhen Reyes came to bat prior to this season? while prior years had those holes filled with the most unlikely of successful hitters, Schneider, Tejada. the latest emergency callup debuter? One of the important considerations u lose out hearing by only experiencing SNY btroadcasts of games is the oppositions continued respect for Reyes as a game disryuptor, havoc wreaker. he’s always tremained to them that key, “keep off the bases, at all costs” type player we used t o hear our announcers proclaim aboyr St Louis’ Vince Coleman, Atlanta’s Furcal etc. As a resident in a Zip codes claimed as exclusive broadcast geography by 3 separate NL competitors(BRAVES,GNATS,REDS) my SNY reception is often subject to blabkout while my receiver searches out the competitor’s feed for me to endure & learn their perspective on our guys from.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148631 Metsie Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:00:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148631 No he doesn’t have to hit .350, but if he hits around .300 then the pitcher actually has a reason to pitch around him and walk him more as a result of the BA.

The Hit in that case scares him more than the walk and stolen base does. Especially if there is already a runner on Reyes could drive in.

No batter can FORCE a pitcher to throw balls and walk him, But he can inpire one to do so if his bat is as dangerous as any walk would be.

Reyes can do that because he can turn a single into a double and, a double into a triple if you let him hit it.

So it is very important for Reyes to keep his BA up and if he does the OBP will follow.

]]> By: Metlomaniac http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148596 Metlomaniac Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:48:38 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148596 The argument to trade Wright and/or Reyes isn’t based on the abilities or value of either player. The reality is that this team has not been the same since the meltdown of 2007. As it stands, there will be a few years before the team is competitive again. At that point, Reyes and Wright will be in their 30′s. Better to trade them for valuable, younger players, and start the rebuilding now.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148558 METS62FAN Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:47:41 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148558 Paul, not necessarily, as we’ve seen in just these past 2G whereby he scored 2R rather easily via a double & a single. as a matter of fact, the Braves announcers that last ATL game were quite astrounded that after only 4 pitches, Reyes scored & they were behind. Last night’s game was a clear example of how anemic the NYM offense really would be without him as Rodriguez handled Jose handily, yet late Reyes was able to expose the ‘stro’s defenseive inadequacy by “rushing” thier infield (3B,1B). Though scored an E5 on Hou, giving Reyes zero credit in BA; only OBP help, his proficiency @ speeding up the defense proves out more often than for most players. So, the opposing pitcher, gets deflated inasmuch as he ‘successfully’ pitched to him, yet his teammates failed him, now he’s in the stretch under duress as the atmosphere changes significantly.

]]> By: paul nassau http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148553 paul nassau Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:36:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148553 That’s a great point about Reyes which I nver thought of, but doesnt it mean he has to hit around .350 to be valuable on offense? Pops

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148546 Metsie Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:48:38 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148546 Very good point 62, one I have been trying to make to the OBP must walk more crowd around here for awhile!

You can not FORCE a pitcher to walk you!
And ACCEPTING a walk is not always the best thing that you can do in a PA.
Just because you are ahead in the count and have 3 balls does not mean you should simply take the walk, not if you have one or two strikes left to knock the snot out of the ball and get a much better hit or extra bases.

Emaus showed in spades that if the pitcher throws strikes you will NOT walk!
All of his walks came when he was ahead in the count and ALL of his hits were when he was behind!
Unfortunatly his BA was such that even those hits never exceeded his batting capability and it exposed the guy who was selected based on his high OBP to the adjustment of Just throw him strikes and let him get himself out with his poor hitting skill.

]]> By: METS62FAN http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148537 METS62FAN Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:34:41 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148537 metsfan, you do realize that in any given MLB game there are 40 or so professional players with extremely high talents on the field?
This would certainly include the opposing pitching staff, who are most likely given a couple of instructions prior to game time, the MOST IMPORTANT of which, is the one that states DO NOT WALK REYES! if they do absolutely nothing else in the game that mantra is the BE ALL for them as a goal. Certainly it’s in Reyes’ hands as to whether he stays or goes as the financial restrictions on this frabnchise is certainy a matter of full disclosure. If Jose does demand to get paid equal to the highest offer from the outside, he’s assuredly gone; but by no means should Alderson anticipate that without confirmation from Reyes’ camp much as TB rode out Crawford albeit to lose him ultimately.

I sense there is a confusion of terminology amoung fans who interpret the term ‘competitive’ to mean much more than Alderson likrly means to infer. For fans of a competitive team this season, the distance to the Phillies in the standings should be meaningless;l but our remaining in the pack amoung & close to ATL,FL is truly tantamount in importance. with a goal of exceeding .500 by a smidge(82-85Ws) our current start is more disquieting than disabling; but assuredly disappointing.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148535 Metsie Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:31:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148535 I really think we need to hold off on the Panic button until Jason Bay comes back, adds some decent fielding to the LF position and bat to the lineup.

If Bay can come back to hitting the way he should that will get rid of the OF errors of Hairston and Harris and give Beltran and Davis better protection in the Lineup as well.

If Bay comes back and hits then maybe we will get a few more early leads and then maybe the starting rotation won’t be so afraid to throw more strikes knowing one pitch can not give the other side the lead.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148533 Metsie Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:27:16 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148533 Well your correct about Santana, K-Rod could be traded if we agree to pay 7 mil of his salary next year and that is only a concern if he Vests BEFORE we trade him. K-Rod is VERY tradeable especially to a team who is in the running at the deadline and needs a solid closer.

And a slight correction, Alderson didn’t exactly say he needed to walk more, Merely that he needed to get his OBP up. Now granted most people who like OBP will accept more walks as a way to get there but they do not hold it against you if your OBP is up not because you walk but because you hit.

If a guy hit .400 and never walked his OBP would be .400 and that would be as acceptable in meeting the higher OBP parameter as walking more.
I don’t (and neither does Sandy) expect Reyes to hit .400 but if he gets into the high .300′s in OBP then he won’t hold that against Reyes if the walks are not there as well.

Attendance is going to have a much bigger role in resigning Reyes than his walks or OBP.
If we can’t afford to pay him it won’t matter how many walks or how sky high the OBP is. He will either be traded or allowed to sign elsewhere so we can take those two compensatiry picks and start anew.

]]> By: tlagee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148514 tlagee Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:29:37 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148514 Hamilton?

]]> By: The Tall Mets Fan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148513 The Tall Mets Fan Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:47:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148513 I love all you said….in a fantasy – lala land it will all be true.

If the Mets can ever trade F-Rod and Beltran they will pay part of the salaries and get middle level prospects for them. They can’t trade Johan without paying all his salary. That would be a mistake. Kepp him and see if you can get 10-12 wins out of him as he rides off into the sunset. He is a good influence on the younger pichers anyway.

They will likely have to trade Jose. It’s too bad and we all want him to stay, but, tons of money for a player who doesn’t walk, people question his baseball intelligence (listen to all the Mets announcers radio and TV this year about him not running when he should and how un-clutch he is). The Mets will likely never replace him as a personality and talent. But investing $80-90 million and then watch him break down in a year or two, bad idea.

I agree with letting the young ones play – what the heck what do we have to lose now!!

]]> By: metsfan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/04/time-to-push-the-panic-button-how-to-fix-the-mets.html#comment-148512 metsfan Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:38:42 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=48708#comment-148512 Please explain how you trade Johan Santana who is out for months and months. Please explain how you trade Rodriguez. Tell me what team is going to risk paying him 17 million next year. Not even the Yankees pay a closer that much. And please tell me how you think this new cheap org is going to keep Reyes when you already hear the he can’t do the most important thing (walk, lol) drum beat has already come from the not so great one, Alderson. There are probably 25 or so teams that would drool to have a SS like Reyes, and Alderson has to wait a year to check him out. He gone.

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