also, what makes Bay’s power not a guarantee? because he had one HALF year where he only hit six? after hitting 30 five out of the last six years before that. these guys are human beings dude, they’re allowed to have an off year…or off half year in Bay’s case. Beltran had an off year and then hit 41. Wright had an off year and then hit 29. I’m not saying Bay is def gonna hit 30 but to think his power suddenly just disappeared because he had one bad half is very, very unfair and just not thinking logically..

and Beltran healthy and in a walk year is really all that needs to be said about that. and he’s played like the last eleven games in a row. he’s playing for a new contract. believe me he will be playing as many games as he possibly can, and he will be hitting.

Satish man ANOTHER middle of the order slugger is the last thing the Mets need. what they really need is someone who can K 200 hitters, or at least something close to it.

You’re being a little too optimistic.
Bay’s power is no guarantee. I expect, even with bounceback numbers, about 24 or so this season. And the Beltran we have now can’t play every day. There’s no guarantee that he can hit 30 either.

I’ll give you Davis in a heartbeat and Wright can probably touch 30. The closest thing we have to my definition of a middle of the order masher right now is Davis.

I think Davis will touch that 35-40 HR plateau…It worries me because I remember how I used to feel that way about Wright and he never got there. You know?

Also, with Beltran gone next year, we lose a hypothetical 25 HRs. I was just missing the days when we had a 40 HR threat right in the middle of the lineup. If Davis doesn’t develop into that, I worry.

“Beltran and Delgado put up nearly 80 HRs combined in 2006. Do you think two players on the current Mets will come even close to that in 2011?”

no, but four could hit 120.

“And how come Tulowitzki or Mark Reynolds or Chase Utley didn’t have any problem drilling HRs at Citi? One of the main problems when we look at our power outage overall is that we no longer employ a major power hitter in the middle of the lineup.”

name me one year that Wright, Beltran, Bay, and Davis have been in the lineup together for a full year….go ‘head, I’ll wait.

“We don’t have a Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder, Adrian Gonzalez, Albert Pujols, Joey Votto, Jose Bautista…etc.”

go ‘head, finish the etc.’s

Sorry for the smugness Satish, but this post is ridiculous.

#nerdhumor

On paper (on paper, I said) I cannot imagine that the Mets have ever had that kind of pure power from 3, 4, 5, 6 in any given year.

Kirk is off the 40-man, you’re correct. So he’s got 3 options. Also, I think we had the discussion about selling high on Pagan before.

I’ve heard the talk about Nieuwenhuis not being such a great fielder, but what I saw from him in RF during ST, he would be a decent Right Fielder on the major league level. You say he doesn’t have enough power to be a Right Fielder. What do you think qualifies as having enough power to be a Right Fielder? The last two years, he’s hit 17 & 18 HRs. Translated into a full season here, that would be around the ballpark of 22-26 HRs. I don’t see what the problem would be.

@Satish: Last I checked, Nieuwenhuis is not on the 40 man, so I believe all his options are in tact. I say release Hairston (you must have a lot of patience with Hairston saying you could live with him for 2 weeks…most of us can’t live with him for 2 more seconds because he’s a whiff machine), add Kirk to the 40 man roster, and let’s see what he can do until Pagan returns. If he exceeds what we expect him to do, briefly send down Kirk, have Pagan build up his value again, and if he goes on a hot streak, strike while the iron is hot and trade him ASAP…something the Mets failed to do last offseason.

Not too many players in MLB put up 40 HR or even 30 anymore.

I think Ike could hit 30 and drive in 100 but I am not sure if the .300 average will hold up.

When I get this article together I’ll talk to you more about it Lol.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=wrighda03&year=Career&t=b#lineu

I could deal with two +25 guys over one 40 guy. But next year, Beltran will be gone (whether trade or via free agency) and that leaves Wright, Bay, and Davis. If we assume Davis can hit 35, Wright 25-30…and Bay about 25 (His power is still up in the air, but i’m hoping he returns to form and I expect him to.) we’re still short a little on power, you know?

I wonder who will be playing RF next year… if Pagan sticks it in CF it’ll be interesting to see what happens.

In all of baseball last year only 6 players hit over 35 home runs and only 18 over 30. And the only team to have 2 players over 30 were the Yankees. In 2009, you had 30 players hit over 30 homeruns and only 13 over 35. And in 2008, 28 over 30+ and 11 over 35+. So, I see your point on trying to get a power hitter, but its probably the toughest skill to obtain and even harder to obtain when we have already locked up a few of the power positions such as 1b, 3b, and LF.

I agree with you that we need more power hitters…but 25+ should be the types of players to get. I think the market for 30+ is very limited, and I think if we don’t make any trades we should have 4 players hit that total (Bay/Beltran/Davis/Wright). That’s not a bad quartet playing in neutral ballpark (that’s being generous)

Harris should not be starting in LF. Simple. I could live with Hairston for 2 weeks or so. Nieuwnhuis is a guy I’ve liked from what I saw last year down on the farm and he could probably put up decent numbers. But how many options does he have? No reason to call him up when management will just send him right back down when Pagan returns.

I think in 2 years or so, Ike will grow into our cleanup role. I just can’t see Ike and Delgado in the same light. Perhaps Ike will grow into a better overall player, but I’m using Delgado as an example for a cleanup hitter.