I dont know how many games Gee can win, but right now and from what we saw of him in the majors coupled with the minors, he has control, can get big outs including a K when we absolutely need one. His stuff is average and he doesnt have one plus pitch that I know of but he’s got moxy, poise, and smarts. Almost fits Al Leiter to a tee in that regard.

As I said a couple of years ago, Pelfey is imposing on the mound but he has mental makeup issues that continually plague him. From the time he had to wear a mouth piece to keep from being OCD about his tongue, to last season crediting all his success to his shrink. Has big time confidence issues that dont play well in this big media market. He is currently the senior member of the Mets rotation but who in the world looks up to him? That says a lot.

Boyer sucks.
And I rarely ever say that a player sucks. I want him to succeed but I really don’t think he deserved a spot on this team in the first place and I’m still confused as to why he is on the team.

Does anybody know if Acosta cleared?

Either way, I think the Mets should swap Pelfrey with Capuano in the mean time until the Mets need a 5th starter.

I agree that he is struggling big time. He is not an ace, no one ever thought he was ace and you know that he why he was named No. 1 pitcher at the time it made sense, but in hindsight it may have been a mistake.

Everyone is lost that doesn’t subscribe to every word your and your friend Bayonne pontificate.

The sky hasn’t fallen.

Do you promise to retract your uninformed remarks about his pitches when he starts winning convincingly? If so, I will reciprocate by admitting you were correct if turns out to now be a complete bum.

Tough audience here.

True, he was yipped to the max last night, plus sucking royally, but…

It’s two outings at the beginning of the season, people!

Pelf always has sucked against the Marlins, so no great shakes there.

Let’s see what we get from him over the next three-four starts before you all are ready to toss him overboard.

Is he an ace? About as much as Reyes is a cleanup hitter, but we need a sub for Johan, and he sort of had the longest proven tenure. Young surely looked like an ace last night, but first game back in a while couldn’t give him such a status.

A little patience, please.

People in the chat defending pelfrey because he won 15 games are lost. W/L means nothing. He allows 15 baserunners per 9 innings and strikes out less than 5 per 9 innings. He’s lost velocity on his fastball and his sinkerball can be frequently seen flying out of a ballpark near you.

Bring up Gee and trade Pelfrey.

Putting Pelfrey (is he still injured?) and the Phils’ stater aside – this game came down to a battle of the bullpnes and the Mets pen lost miserably. Buccholz allowing Pelf’s three runs to score was bad enough (shouldn’t there be a rule that only runners in scoring postion should count against the previous pitcher?) and Boyer (a great baseball name) sucked.

The Phils pen, meanwhile, shut the door on the Mets. Conteras, as a closer, is a joke. He was behind all the hitters – threw about 50 balls in the 9th – but the Mets either struck out or hit the two other strikes for outs.

We knew we had problems with the starters when the season began. Pelfrey can not match up to anyone right now – he seems lost. The bullpen began the season with huge question marks – it seems that some of those are being answered – in a negative way.

I still believe the Mets will start the season ok because of their hitting. But the holes in their pitching will become evident before too long.