6
2011
Mets Lose Slugfest To Phillies 10-7
An article by Former Writers
Game Summary
Mike Pelfrey continues to flatline out the gate this season. He gets beaten up early and often and was finally taken out after allowing seven runs in two+ innings of work. Mets and Phillies slugged it out as no pitchers were fantastic from either side, but Phillies out did the Mets with a 10-7 loss for New York.
Game Notes
You wouldn’t think that Mike Pelfrey would have been the one to worry about when this season opened, well guess again. He got beat up immediately when he stepped to the mound. He allowed two runs in the first inning, one run in the second, and three hurtful runs in the third without getting a single out in the third inning. So his card ends up showing two+ innings of work, allowing seven runs (6 earned-yet the error was his own) on eight hits, one walk, one strikeout, and gave Howard his second homerun of the season. Despite his poor performance, his offense saved him from receiving the loss. Pelfrey threw fifty pitches in the game, and elevated his ERA to mountain-level dangerous heights of 15.63.
There has been rumors of Pelfrey possibly being traded, maybe it’s time for the Mets to really look into that. I doubt the Mets will get too much for him, but once Santana gets healthy or Mejia shows his true potential, the Mets should push Pelf’s papers around to other teams. Just a thought.
Taylor Buccholz came in to relieve Pelfrey, allowing three runs to score, all counting on Pelf. After that, he kept it together for two innings. His line shows as two innings of work, three hits, and K’ing 5 Philly batters.Blaine Boyer continues to make me miss Izzy with three runs allowed under his watch with five hits, a walk, and a homerun allowed. Boyer also receives the loss. Pedro Beato got himself a 1-2-3 inning.
Frankie Roriguez got his first appearance since Saturday and had a nice scoreless inning with a walk and two K’s.
Mets offense fought their hardest during this slug fest, but couldn’t out hit the NL version of the Yankees. Mets tallied 12 hits and seven runs with the fifth inning accounting for most of the offense with five runs in that inning with Wright, Pagan, Beltran and Murphy contributing.
Ike, Pagan, Reyes, and Emaus all had two hits in the game with doubles by Reyes and Ike. Pagan had a two-run homerun.
The sadder parts are Thole 0-4 and Wright with a hat trick of Ks.
Turning Point
Blaine Boyer giving up three runs after the Mets fought so hard to tie it up at seven a piece.
Game Ball
Angel Pagan had the best game and deserves it with his first homerun of the season.
Up Next
Jon Niese (0-0, 2.57 ERA) looks to get the Mets a road series win as he faces the Phillies and the Ace of Aces, Roy Halladay (0-0, 1.50 ERA). Game time is 3:05 PM.
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NL East Standings
| Team | W | L | Pct. | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Braves | 25 | 18 | .581 | - |
| Nationals | 23 | 21 | .523 | 2.5 |
| Phillies | 21 | 23 | .477 | 4.5 |
| Mets | 17 | 24 | .415 | 7.0 |
| Marlins | 12 | 32 | .273 | 13.5 |
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I like the way the Mets fought back.
Putting Pelfrey (is he still injured?) and the Phils’ stater aside – this game came down to a battle of the bullpnes and the Mets pen lost miserably. Buccholz allowing Pelf’s three runs to score was bad enough (shouldn’t there be a rule that only runners in scoring postion should count against the previous pitcher?) and Boyer (a great baseball name) sucked.
The Phils pen, meanwhile, shut the door on the Mets. Conteras, as a closer, is a joke. He was behind all the hitters – threw about 50 balls in the 9th – but the Mets either struck out or hit the two other strikes for outs.
We knew we had problems with the starters when the season began. Pelfrey can not match up to anyone right now – he seems lost. The bullpen began the season with huge question marks – it seems that some of those are being answered – in a negative way.
I still believe the Mets will start the season ok because of their hitting. But the holes in their pitching will become evident before too long.
It’s funny how a pitcher has a good season and when it ends they reveal “mistery injuries” they had endured throughout the season while putting up pretty good numbers. Santana said the same thing after his first season with the mets. I wonder why they do this? Anyways the joke here is you, Why would the runners in scoring position not count against the pitcher that allowed them to reach base in the first place? IDIOT. And if Contreras is a joke as a closer because he felt behind a few people then im wondering what that makes K-ROD? besides if the guy is a joke why did he shut down the mets in the ninth inning? Next time dont say anything stupid if you dont know what you’re talking about.
As I said countless times before, Pelfrey is way overrated. His perfromance has been in decline since the day the Mets drafted him. An ace is supposed to keep us in the game and not get torched whenever he takes the mound. He couldnt even win in a matchup agaisnt the other team’s #5 starter.
People in the chat defending pelfrey because he won 15 games are lost. W/L means nothing. He allows 15 baserunners per 9 innings and strikes out less than 5 per 9 innings. He’s lost velocity on his fastball and his sinkerball can be frequently seen flying out of a ballpark near you.
Bring up Gee and trade Pelfrey.
Thank you Maniac. I totally agree.
Well do you want a medal or parade because you are the smartest guy in the room.
I agree that he is struggling big time. He is not an ace, no one ever thought he was ace and you know that he why he was named No. 1 pitcher at the time it made sense, but in hindsight it may have been a mistake.
Everyone is lost that doesn’t subscribe to every word your and your friend Bayonne pontificate.
Youre probably not an interent junkie like me Jerry, but there were plenty of posts after last season calling Mike pelfrey the ace and last May they were saying he should be the ace and not Johan Santana. You either were asleep at the time or something, but a casual search of Pelfrey, May and 2010 will show you.
There you go again Jerry being an ass. Did I say I was the smartest guy in the room? My opinion is that Pelfrey is overrated and I explained my reasons why. I didnt say this after his first start or second start either. You can go all the way back to 2008 offseason when he was named #2 starter by Minaya I’ve been saying it since then and for the same reasons. I dont care what Bayonne or you for that matter think. My opinions are my own and unique to me based on over 40 years of watching this team and this game. So keep your snide remarks and stick ‘em where the sun dont shine. I dont need your snark everytime I express an opinion.
You honestly think Gee has the capability to win some 15 games?
Oliver Perez won 15 games so anything is possible. I would have to say from what we saw of Gee he is infinitely better than Oliver Perez. He may not have better stuff than Mike Pelfrey, but he can pitch and hit his spots, unlike Pelfrey. Five years and Pelfrey still cant pitch consistently. We’ve seen Pelfrey before, his name is Aaron Heilman.
srt – I’m not a big believer in won loss records. Yesterday Pelfrey gave up 7 runs and only lasted 2 IP. He was not the losing pitcher, see what I mean?
I dont know how many games Gee can win, but right now and from what we saw of him in the majors coupled with the minors, he has control, can get big outs including a K when we absolutely need one. His stuff is average and he doesnt have one plus pitch that I know of but he’s got moxy, poise, and smarts. Almost fits Al Leiter to a tee in that regard.
As I said a couple of years ago, Pelfey is imposing on the mound but he has mental makeup issues that continually plague him. From the time he had to wear a mouth piece to keep from being OCD about his tongue, to last season crediting all his success to his shrink. Has big time confidence issues that dont play well in this big media market. He is currently the senior member of the Mets rotation but who in the world looks up to him? That says a lot.
Terrible loss. We had the Phillies running scared and the we let them back in. Now we play a rubber game against Doc Halladay instead of going for the sweep. I have no idea why this front office sees Pelfrey as a number one starter. I didnt even think he was a number two last year, and now he’s our number one? I guess I dont view Pelfrey the way they do.
Well, Pelfrey stunk up the joint again tonight. Facing a Phillies lineup minus Utley (injured) and Werth (departed FA) Pelfrey shouldn’t have struggled THIS badly. I don’t know, maybe there’s something physically wrong with him. With the Mets training staff it could take another 3 or 4 starts before they actually get around to asking him if something is wrong. If he’s not hurt, then what’s the problem? Is it mental? Or is it that his actual skills are no where near the hype we heard when he was drafted. Baseball America called him a legitimate “Ace”. Well, how wrong were they? If he’d just give them what he gave them in 2010 he’d be fine. I just hope he can regain 2010 form, and soon.
Pelf doesn’t have it upstairs to carry us as our “ace”. He may have the tools physically, but not mentally. Let me just say that I feel that it’s not only was it a joke that Pelf is the ace, but Chris Capuano, a lefty, was skipped for this series. Capuano would’ve given us a great outing neutralizing Philly, and at the same time, the Mets would’ve tore Blanton apart like they did tonight. When Pelfrey gets into trouble, you can visibly see that it’s difficult for him to settle back in (Ex: Multiple expressions on his face, licking hands constantly, etc.). That’s what really frustrates me about him. Forget 2010. That Pelfrey most likely won’t be coming back.
WHoa!
Tough audience here.
True, he was yipped to the max last night, plus sucking royally, but…
It’s two outings at the beginning of the season, people!
Pelf always has sucked against the Marlins, so no great shakes there.
Let’s see what we get from him over the next three-four starts before you all are ready to toss him overboard.
Is he an ace? About as much as Reyes is a cleanup hitter, but we need a sub for Johan, and he sort of had the longest proven tenure. Young surely looked like an ace last night, but first game back in a while couldn’t give him such a status.
A little patience, please.
I agree. If winning 15 games with an era of 3.7 and throwing 200+ inngs for a team that only won 79 games all year is the not worth investing in than I am really confused. Pelfrey had one month last season when he absolutely stunk! And he still had an era under 4 and won 15 games! Think about it, I mean really think about it, the Mets only won 79 games all year and Pelfrey won 15 of them! Pelfrey was bad last night in Philly but to be honest I’m not all that concerned. If Pelfrey pitches for a contending team last year he is a 20 game winner. I’m definitely not giving up on him! He’ll figure it out.
Would you guys please forget about STATS and concentrate on what you’re SEEING. Even when he was winning games and pitching well, you could tell Pelfrey was losing his sinker away from being dead meat. Now his sinker doesn’t move and he has nothing left. A straight fastball and no secondary pitches and no real pitching smarts. We’ve got to get him a couple of wins and move him.
Tomterif, please the man is not old enough, necessarily, to be losing a pitching edge in any way, shape, or form, unless he’s injured. The idea he can’t throw an effective sinker any longer on the basis of two crappy, BEGINNING-OF-THE-SEASON! starts is alarmist and unproven.
The sky hasn’t fallen.
Do you promise to retract your uninformed remarks about his pitches when he starts winning convincingly? If so, I will reciprocate by admitting you were correct if turns out to now be a complete bum.
I’m not gunna crucify him yet. Dude got thrown into the de facto ace role. What was he gunna do, say no? Give him time, he’ll get his groove.
Clearly Pelfrey is struggling with his pitches. Perhaps Collins should have Capuano make Pelfrey’s next start and have Warthen work with Pelfrey on the side. Things need to be corrected, whether it be his velocity, perhaps he is tipping his pitches again.
Either way, I think the Mets should swap Pelfrey with Capuano in the mean time until the Mets need a 5th starter.
I already complained about Pelfrey and everybody else did it as well, so I see no reason to jump in there.
Boyer sucks.
And I rarely ever say that a player sucks. I want him to succeed but I really don’t think he deserved a spot on this team in the first place and I’m still confused as to why he is on the team.
Does anybody know if Acosta cleared?